Scary? Redtube is the 9th most serched term on the internet?

That's not accurate. 5 years ago I was promoting over 400 sponsors in stats remote...all adult. I promote more now of course. But my tgp's have lost all their traffic to tube sites. And EVERYBODY now uses torrents to download porn for free.

The big mega site companies are really getting hit hard. And in this case their very size is hurting them. Nobody is really in charge that understands the game, and so their stuff is being used by torrents and illegit tubes to make money via pre-paid spots.

I had a plumber over last week to replace the thermostat on my gas water heater. He asked me what I did for a living. I told him I was in the internet porn business.

He asked me how I could possibly be making a living at it anymore. I said "why would you say that?"

He told me that everybody knows you don't have to pay for porn anymore, it's all free for download on the torrents.

I realized then that if a plumber working on my hot water heater thinks that...then the whole world thinks it.

Nobody wants to pay for something that they can get for free. Why would they? So it's very difficult to market something....no matter what or how you do it.

The only guys making out like bandits on a torrent site are the dating and cam sites. And of course, as I discovered last night while googling up Claudia-Marie....the torrent sites are now charging money (just like a paysite) to download stolen content! No, I didn't say "upload", I said DOWNLOAD.

And they are also using keywords that they don't have the movies for at all to entice the surfer to pay their join fee. I know this because I found Claudia-Marie movies listed at a torrent site that gave you a "download' button. But when you click the button you go to a join page. Then once I paid to be able to check my content....guess what? They didn't even have my movies! They listed them in the free area so anybody using a search engine to look for her would see them as a potential torrent listing.

I spoke to Eric at Removeyourcontent.com about that and he said that "yes" that is becoming prevalent now with torrent sites as they are using deceptive b.s. to get the surfer to pay when they don't actually have that content (in my case RYC had already removed it)

So, if you were into midgets you would be satisfied with the 13 low quality videos on that link you posted, some of which have been up for more than a year? I doubt it.

For someone who is into midgets, that might be his fix for a day, or week. What is he going to do after that.

I did a search for something as easy as "pussy masturbation". Of the 100 videos that pop up, half of them are from sponsors like Nubiles.

The link you posted actually proves my point.

scary for who? Do your job and sell porn, if you suck at it you'll fail

A lot, if not most ISPs throttle torrent traffic. If you are looking for a quick download, you can't just go to a torrent site and download a 2 GB file. In my area, all the major ISPs throttle torrent traffic in peak hours. If you download a file today, you might get it tomorrow. If somebody is out surfing for porn on a friday night, he is not going to wait till the next day to get his movie. And then find a time to be alone to watch it.

Have Tubes and Torrents affected traffic? Sure. But, every day there is so much porn being produced. SOMEBODY is buying it. If everybody was getting porn for free, how do porn sites have the money to keep shooting fresh content? Nobody is working for free.

Next time ask him how much he has paid for porn memberships before. I'll tell you his answer: $0


You know a thread will go downhill as soon as uber moron Robbie comes in with his usual nonsense.

Don't bother. Robbie is one of the biggest idiots on this board. He's totally clueless about this stuff.

He just got lucky with that disgusting content of his. If it wasn't for that he wouldn't be able to make 5 bucks a day on the net.

But for some reason he feels like he's part of this webmaster thing and knows everything about it. Really sad actually.

Most porn movie files are more like a couple hundred megs not gigs. And I can tell you how many of the big companies are still shooting fresh content...they do it the same way I still make money with them...RECURRING BILLING. But new sales? Not so much. And the rebills die away every day.

And I don't think that the hundreds of millions of people downloading from torrents are all that worried about download time. They are strictly in it for FREE stuff. If that was my goal, I wouldn't worry about download time. I'd just do what I did back 10 years ago on dial up....Start a download in the morning and walk away and do other things in life. Come back a few hours later and your download is there.

My plumber that I used as an example...He works all day long driving to people's houses and repairing the plumbing. He could start all his downloads at 6 a.m. when he leaves for work and have them all waiting for him that evening.

Most of them would not buy, some would. The 99 guys that wouldn't buy anyway aren't the problem, the one guy that would is. That guy gets the same free stuff the others do, and as soon as free sites meet his demands, he turns from a buyer into a non-buyer.

All these things play a part. That's why the drop in conversions over the years is so interesting.

Back when CJs and linklists were king, if you wanted easy, quick access to porn pics, you pretty much needed a membership.

The rise of fairly clean TGPs meant that easy, quick access to pics became free. So, the people who wanted that stopped being buyers. Those who wanted vids or full sets of pics still needed to buy.

The rise of MGPs meant that easy, quick access to short vids became free. So, the people who just needed that stopped being buyers. Those who wanted full vids or full sets of pics still needed to buy.

And now, the current situation:

The rise of tubes means that easy, quick access to full scenes is now free. Only those who want high quality need to buy.

The rise of filesharing sites means that high quality scenes are now free. Only those who want ease of use and fast, unlimited downloads need to buy.

The rise of torrent sites means that high quality, unlimited downloads are now free. Only those without technical knowledge and those who want ease of need to buy.

So, essentially, only those without technical knowledge, who want high quality, and aren't willing to put up with the hassle of tube sites or filesharing forums need to buy. Basically, the pool of people with a reason to buy has lost much of its size.

Once tube sites start providing higher quality, conversion rates will go down even further. At some point in the future, only very specific fetishes, extremely exclusive content and extremely high quality content will have a selling point, which will appeal to a very limited audience.

Compare it to a store giving everything away for free next to a Walmart. At first, they only give away breathmints, but every week, they add a new product to their inventory. After a while, the Walmart will be in trouble. Because while free breathmints won't dissuade people from buying pizzas, free sandwiches will dissuade some, and free pizzas will dissuade most.

Redtube Daily

wordtracker - 74397
Google - 92,996
Yahoo - 26,709
MSM - 11,606
Overall Daily - 131,211

it is still weird that people go to google and type in anything + anything.com. direct navigation is a myth...

its not good

I've watched people do that firsthand and it totally baffles me. I even asked them why and they didn't really have an answer... yet they kept doing it.

I know I don't do that. I just type what I'm looking for period. And then when I'm looking to find my content out there...I just start looking through the pages. I usually stop at page 3 or 4 since that's about as far as I care to look.

I have however typed in multiple words like this: "puma swede torrent" And I could see how and why surfers looking to jerk off to a particular girl for free would do that. Matter of fact, that search term brings up almost a half million results.

Look in the sig of the guy who started this thread. According to him, he has BangBros converting at close to 1:1000. I think that almost every scene ever produced by bangbros is out there on every tube site and every torrent site, multiple times. But, they are still converting and people are buying.

What does that say?