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  • Doctor Dre
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Jan 2001
    • 51692

    #101
    P.S. Never mind what I said in the counter-suing thing, I'm wrong... I just miss-read.
    Originally posted by rayadp05
    I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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    • BV
      wtf
      • Sep 2001
      • 10914

      #102
      The level of professionalism in this industry bewilders me.

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      • spacedog
        Yes that IS me. Bitch.
        • Nov 2001
        • 14149

        #103
        Originally posted by Doctor Dre
        Actually there have been many glitches before in nats and it haven't caused them any problems.

        The problems comes when they want to fix their fuckup (if it's a fuckup)... They want to fix it but it's making XR a bunch of money.

        XR tells them to fuckoff...

        Even thought it's nats fucking up with their software, from what we can read XR are definitly the idiots for not wanting to fix it and repay the money owed to affiliates.

        John came public with facts.
        sure, but getting angry because somebody hung up the phone & going to a big forum & posting shit knowing for fact that it would do what it did, that's just out of line... did he give them the chance to respond, don't look like it,, for christs sake, he couldv'e waited til NR / Xc was in their office.. nope, got pissed because of a phone call & posted in response to the phone call.. this is merely an interpretation.. only 2 people that really know anything about what occured are tmm & xc..

        Ego fucks up business when you have a mentality like
        "No motherfuckers gonna hangup on me & get away with it.. I'll show them"

        He should have waited a few more days.. he should have allowed XC time to get home/office to check things out & to respond.. (I am assuming john may have posted immediately after the phone call)..
        Last edited by spacedog; 08-28-2006, 05:36 PM.

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        • SpeakEasy
          Confirmed User
          • Sep 2002
          • 2681

          #104
          Originally posted by Sausage
          There is just too much unknown to really be able to predict how this will turn out. As a user of Nats, I surely hope they come out on top, but I don't really see their stance on policing affiliate programs as being viable long term... hell it would be like herding cats

          Also to add, who polices the Porn Site stats that John owns??
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          • Brad Mitchell
            Confirmed User
            • Nov 2001
            • 9813

            #105
            If their program is as small as reported, it should take no time at all for them to run out of money to pay their lawyers.

            Brad
            President at MojoHost | brad at mojohost dot com | Skype MojoHostBrad
            71 industry awards for hosting and professional excellence since 1999

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            • RealityWife
              Confirmed User
              • Jun 2004
              • 358

              #106
              Originally posted by StuartD
              This one time.... at band camp.....
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              • shake
                frc
                • Jul 2003
                • 4663

                #107
                Originally posted by wdsguy
                only ones benefiting from this will be the lawyers
                yup - you got it
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                • Shoplifter
                  Richest man in Babylon
                  • Jan 2002
                  • 5883

                  #108
                  Originally posted by extreme
                  Excellent news.

                  It'll be interesting to see the discovery process here.
                  It will be unbelieveable. I can't believe any program would put all their accounting and tax info into public record. If NR's books are not 100% the court and then the IRS will take them apart.
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                  • jscott
                    jscizzle
                    • Feb 2001
                    • 25482

                    #109
                    great post!
                    If you think tough men are dangerous, wait until you see what weak men are capable of.
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                    • heywood
                      So Fucking Banned
                      • Jun 2003
                      • 468

                      #110
                      holy shit now this is some drama.

                      I've been researching, and I was leaning towards NATS vs mpa3. Perhaps I should watch the outcome of this...

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                      • Snake Doctor
                        I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                        • Mar 2001
                        • 13449

                        #111
                        Vote for Pedro
                        sig too big

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                        • Major (Tom)
                          So Fucking Banned
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 32492

                          #112
                          Originally posted by heywood
                          holy shit now this is some drama.

                          I've been researching, and I was leaning towards NATS vs mpa3. Perhaps I should watch the outcome of this...

                          while both are great products, nothing compares to nats.
                          this drama will be over soon. trust me, the guy stirring the muck has had his bouts of shaddyness in the past.

                          duke

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                          • Dagwolf
                            President of Canada
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 23141

                            #113
                            Situation escalating... Someone needs damage control.
                            Sleep well, and dream of large women.

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                            • LiveDose
                              Show Yer Tits!
                              • Feb 2002
                              • 25792

                              #114
                              Along for the ride.... weeeee

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                              • Nookster
                                Confirmed IT Professional
                                • Nov 2005
                                • 3744

                                #115
                                Originally posted by heywood
                                holy shit now this is some drama.

                                I've been researching, and I was leaning towards NATS vs mpa3. Perhaps I should watch the outcome of this...
                                I stand by NATS' actions. If it gets to it, during the discovery in court I'm sure they will be able to prove their righteous actions about the original post TMM made which they're trying to sue over.
                                The Best Affiliate Software, Ever.

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                                • Markit
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Oct 2003
                                  • 1305

                                  #116
                                  third page spot


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                                  • dtoolbox
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Nov 2004
                                    • 507

                                    #117
                                    better late than never ... sig spot
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                                    • nojob
                                      The Original NoJob
                                      • Feb 2004
                                      • 3682

                                      #118
                                      Originally posted by Brad Mitchell
                                      If their program is as small as reported, it should take no time at all for them to run out of money to pay their lawyers.

                                      Brad

                                      I am assuming that since NR is looking for no less then 75,000 and is sueing for 5,000,000 that the lawyers are working off the retainer of prob 5,000 and will get a % of the outcome.

                                      But, if that is not the case. Then they will need alot of credit cards to keep this going.
                                      Last edited by nojob; 08-29-2006, 03:22 AM.

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                                      • Sausage
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Oct 2002
                                        • 3012

                                        #119
                                        Originally posted by detoxed
                                        Are you insane? If what NATS says is true they have committed fraud against every affiliate in the program and all of you should sue to get access to real stats on their end.
                                        Its not really about that... though I agree ... and would be surprised if nats did this just for show. Anyhow thats not the issue. Court isn't about right and wrong, a good lawyer goes a long way.
                                        IW
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                                        • Tom_PM
                                          Porn Meister
                                          • Feb 2005
                                          • 16443

                                          #120
                                          Originally posted by Doctor Dre
                                          read the first post. Nats CLEARLY and publicly said that if anybody was ever caught shaving, they would make it public. They gave them the chacne to rectify the situation in case this was simply a glitch and they didn't.

                                          Now I personally think John is an industry hero for making this public.
                                          If it would have been over a simple grudge, I wouldn't say anything but it seems something is really fishy there.
                                          Yes but the original original original post didnt say "we caught them shaving", it said there was a discrepancy and that at which time the discrepancy was sorted out, the license would be reinstated.

                                          I guess some people think from the original post that "they were caught shaving"... and some others just figured "they'll sort it out". The way it's interepreted is key I think.

                                          Anyway, I was just curious if it was part of the contract, oral or written.
                                          I hope both parties simply settle things and the cosmos reverts to harmony
                                          43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

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                                          • Zakarian
                                            Registered User
                                            • Jun 2006
                                            • 15

                                            #121
                                            So far, no posting on any Federal Court site of any Complaint being filed by TMM despite John's earlier post. If anyone finds proof of the filing and a copy of TMM's complaint, I'd love to see it.
                                            Albert A. Zakarian, Esquire
                                            16765 FishHawk Blvd., #360
                                            Lithia, FL 33547
                                            (813) 571-2546
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                                            • Alphonso
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Dec 2005
                                              • 544

                                              #122
                                              the true winners are the lawyers
                                              MEOWWWWW

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                                              • Zakarian
                                                Registered User
                                                • Jun 2006
                                                • 15

                                                #123
                                                Originally posted by Alphonso
                                                the true winners are the lawyers

                                                Exaclty, because all the persons posting on this board are abject paupers that dabble in the adult industry for fun, not for money.
                                                Albert A. Zakarian, Esquire
                                                16765 FishHawk Blvd., #360
                                                Lithia, FL 33547
                                                (813) 571-2546
                                                (FAX) (866) 259-1933
                                                [email protected]
                                                AdultLaw.com

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                                                • Quick Buck
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Feb 2006
                                                  • 1026

                                                  #124
                                                  Originally posted by Zakarian
                                                  Exaclty, because all the persons posting on this board are abject paupers that dabble in the adult industry for fun, not for money.
                                                  it took me a couple reads to realize that you were being sarcastic.
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                                                  • p1mpdogg
                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                    • Nov 2002
                                                    • 16714

                                                    #125
                                                    give me abreak john. you were playing god and you got caught.

                                                    pay them what you owe and move on.

                                                    why you are wasting your money trying to jutify your actions is silly.

                                                    be a man you turd.
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                                                    • Zakarian
                                                      Registered User
                                                      • Jun 2006
                                                      • 15

                                                      #126
                                                      Originally posted by Quick Buck
                                                      it took me a couple reads to realize that you were being sarcastic.
                                                      NP QB, you have the correct read.
                                                      Albert A. Zakarian, Esquire
                                                      16765 FishHawk Blvd., #360
                                                      Lithia, FL 33547
                                                      (813) 571-2546
                                                      (FAX) (866) 259-1933
                                                      [email protected]
                                                      AdultLaw.com

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                                                      • JMM
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Apr 2001
                                                        • 1755

                                                        #127
                                                        Originally posted by Zakarian
                                                        NP QB, you have the correct read.
                                                        Albert..

                                                        Don't take this the wrong way, I have heard good things about you....

                                                        But..

                                                        With all of these posts that you are making, and assuming that the negative message board publicity is a big part of your clients claims, aren't you in essence inserting yourself into the case?

                                                        Assuming that the alleged negative publicity on the message boards is key to the alleged damage being caused your client, aren't you personally perpetuating that alleged negative publicity every time you bump the threads?

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                                                        • jayeff
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • May 2001
                                                          • 2944

                                                          #128
                                                          Originally posted by spacedog
                                                          he couldv'e waited til NR / Xc was in their office
                                                          Could have, but why should he? You seem desperate to damage NATS with your constant posting on this topic, but the message is always the same: the fault is NATS for not being more tolerant, never that of the guy from Xclusive for acting so unprofessionally and having done so, then failing to regret what he did and act quickly to put things right. Is that one-sided or what?

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                                                          • Zakarian
                                                            Registered User
                                                            • Jun 2006
                                                            • 15

                                                            #129
                                                            Originally posted by JMM
                                                            Albert..

                                                            Don't take this the wrong way, I have heard good things about you....

                                                            But..

                                                            With all of these posts that you are making, and assuming that the negative message board publicity is a big part of your clients claims, aren't you in essence inserting yourself into the case?

                                                            Assuming that the alleged negative publicity on the message boards is key to the alleged damage being caused your client, aren't you personally perpetuating that alleged negative publicity every time you bump the threads?
                                                            Good question. If you take my posts as a whole or individually, I am not commenting on the case. If you read the complaint, it asserts that the damage is already irreparably done. Still, interesting food for thought.
                                                            Albert A. Zakarian, Esquire
                                                            16765 FishHawk Blvd., #360
                                                            Lithia, FL 33547
                                                            (813) 571-2546
                                                            (FAX) (866) 259-1933
                                                            [email protected]
                                                            AdultLaw.com

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                                                            • Theo
                                                              HAL 9000
                                                              • May 2001
                                                              • 34515

                                                              #130
                                                              Albert, you are doing your job and im sure you know how to do it very well, but I honestly find it kind of odd for you guys to be around on these threads. I don't think it serves any real purpose because whatever is done will be resolved in a court. We could use your knowledge in threads like 2257 and so on. Just my 2 cents.

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                                                              • Jace
                                                                FBOP Class Of 2013
                                                                • Jan 2004
                                                                • 35562

                                                                #131
                                                                Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
                                                                Albert, you are doing your job and im sure you know how to do it very well, but I honestly find it kind of odd for you guys to be around on these threads. I don't think it serves any real purpose because whatever is done will be resolved in a court. We could use your knowledge in threads like 2257 and so on. Just my 2 cents.
                                                                but is jumping in and helping the industry as a whole by giving advice to smaller webmaster making him any money? nope...

                                                                so you won't see him doing THAT any time soon

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                                                                • beemk
                                                                  CLICK HERE
                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                  • 20829

                                                                  #132
                                                                  Originally posted by Brad Mitchell
                                                                  If their program is as small as reported, it should take no time at all for them to run out of money to pay their lawyers.

                                                                  Brad
                                                                  not to mention all the backpay they owe affiliates for "missed" rebills.
                                                                  I host with Vacares

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                                                                  • Jace
                                                                    FBOP Class Of 2013
                                                                    • Jan 2004
                                                                    • 35562

                                                                    #133
                                                                    just bumping this so no one forgets that there has been no resoultion and affiliates are still not getting paid

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                                                                    • martinsc
                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                      • Jun 2005
                                                                      • 27043

                                                                      #134
                                                                      i guess i missed my sig spot...
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                                                                      • Drake
                                                                        Hello world!
                                                                        • Mar 2003
                                                                        • 12508

                                                                        #135
                                                                        Are the lawyers still wetting their chops on this one

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