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  • FreakinWebmaster
    Confirmed User
    • Jan 2003
    • 935
    #1

    So you got a dedicated server.... How do you really know its dedicated?

    I am just wondering how to you really know you have a dedicated server when you sign on with a managed hosting company?


    All I have is FTP access and a control panel. And they give me specs on the machine but how do you know for sure its true?


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    • liquidmoe
      Confirmed User
      • Mar 2002
      • 4994
      #2
      There are a few things you can do, such as request root access.


      You can verify that besides system users and yourself no one else is present in /etc/passwd (again you may need root access to verify this depending on how your account is locked down).

      You can always check your dmesg and verify it against what your hosting company told you your specs where.

      dmesg basically displays everything that was detected during boot up, so you can verify your harddrives, cpus, ram, etc. - should be available as "dmesg" from your command-line.

      Thats a good start.

      Take Luck!

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        • negroid
          Registered User
          • Aug 2006
          • 31
          #3
          get the ip and do a whois.sc reverse lookup on it, see if other sites are hosted there

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            • High Plains Drifter
              Confirmed User
              • Jun 2005
              • 2341
              #4
              rebuild the kernel.

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                • jimthefiend
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 18889
                  #5
                  I know because I told the nice folks at Webair what I wanted.

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                    • fuzebox
                      making it rain
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 22367
                      #6
                      Because they just installed a base OS and I setup the rest.

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                        • Spudstr
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 2321
                          #7
                          Originally posted by fuzebox
                          Because they just installed a base OS and I setup the rest.
                          ah, but with computers becomming so fast now, and with software even like the new vmware esx you can easily think our on your own machine when reality your just a VM

                          A company I use to work for would give out dedicatd servers but they were in reality VMsessions, poor users had no idea and they never complained or said a word about it either.
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                            • Jarmusch
                               
                              • May 2003
                              • 12479
                              #8

                              "Rest assured your server is dedicated."

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                                • Swish
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Mar 2006
                                  • 1421
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by Jarmusch

                                  "Rest assured your server is dedicated."


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                                    • QTbucks_Mark
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Mar 2006
                                      • 254
                                      #10
                                      I know for sure. Because I carried every damn piece of hardware into the datacenter myself...


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                                        • bknoob
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Apr 2006
                                          • 1610
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by Spudstr
                                          ah, but with computers becomming so fast now, and with software even like the new vmware esx you can easily think our on your own machine when reality your just a VM

                                          A company I use to work for would give out dedicatd servers but they were in reality VMsessions, poor users had no idea and they never complained or said a word about it either.
                                          haha, that's awesome! a dirty trick but awesome indeed.

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                                            • BUSH_MUST_DIE
                                              So Fucking Banned
                                              • Sep 2006
                                              • 78
                                              #12
                                              tell them to install a MRTG graphic system to measure traffic, and there you can see if its dedicated or not.

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                                                • tranza
                                                  ICQ: 197-556-237
                                                  • Jun 2003
                                                  • 57559
                                                  #13
                                                  Good question...
                                                  I'm just a newbie.

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                                                    • pussyluver
                                                      Clueless OleMan
                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                      • 11009
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by Spudstr
                                                      ah, but with computers becomming so fast now, and with software even like the new vmware esx you can easily think our on your own machine when reality your just a VM

                                                      A company I use to work for would give out dedicatd servers but they were in reality VMsessions, poor users had no idea and they never complained or said a word about it either.

                                                      good point. If you've done the whois.sc and logged in as root and took a look around and the server is doing its job, I suppose it doesn't matter? If I found out I didn't get what I ordered, I would be with another company though.

                                                      Would this be cost effective for a hosting company anyway? Have 160 GB HD, burstable bandwidth and have tested for speed, 1Gbyte Ram and so on. They'd have to buy a faily expensive machine to serve up enough horse power to fool many webmasters.

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                                                        • TheJimmy
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                                                          • Jan 2001
                                                          • 10747
                                                          #15
                                                          Let me tell you a little story about a man named r00t...

                                                          For real, I wouldn't get a dedicated without root, just seems rediculous unless your hosting company plans on doing all of your coding/development work. Whe shit needs to be configured, modd'd, recompiled and whatnot, having to wait for a ticket to be done is a serious pain in the ass, or can be...

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                                                            • Shoehorn!
                                                              Die With Your Boots On
                                                              • Oct 2003
                                                              • 22872
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by Jarmusch

                                                              "Rest assured your server is dedicated."

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                                                                • pussyluver
                                                                  Clueless OleMan
                                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                                  • 11009
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by TheJimmy
                                                                  Let me tell you a little story about a man named r00t...

                                                                  For real, I wouldn't get a dedicated without root, just seems rediculous unless your hosting company plans on doing all of your coding/development work. Whe shit needs to be configured, modd'd, recompiled and whatnot, having to wait for a ticket to be done is a serious pain in the ass, or can be...

                                                                  .

                                                                  Amen

                                                                  5678

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                                                                    • BUSH_MUST_DIE
                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                      • Sep 2006
                                                                      • 78
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by Jarmusch

                                                                      "Rest assured your server is dedicated."

                                                                      ROFL...

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                                                                        • pussyluver
                                                                          Clueless OleMan
                                                                          • Mar 2003
                                                                          • 11009
                                                                          #19
                                                                          In the wait mode now on something. No complaints as they respond in a reasonable amount of time and I can call 24/7 etc., but still...

                                                                          I have root access and I can jump in myself if I want. Depends on what it is. This time, I feel safer letting them handle it. There is also the issue of to many fingers in the machine... The last one was simple enough, so I did it on my own.

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                                                                            • pussyluver
                                                                              Clueless OleMan
                                                                              • Mar 2003
                                                                              • 11009
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by BUSH_MUST_DIE
                                                                              tell them to install a MRTG graphic system to measure traffic, and there you can see if its dedicated or not.
                                                                              Your nick is a death threat all by itself IMO. I'd ban it if I had mod status. Suggest you read the GFY rules. The mods are getting serious these days.

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                                                                                • Fabien
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                                                  • 4789
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  So, which host playing this trick ?
                                                                                  Got names ?


                                                                                  If a host can pull something like. Imagine what they can do ?

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                                                                                    • Spudstr
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Jan 2003
                                                                                      • 2321
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by BUSH_MUST_DIE
                                                                                      tell them to install a MRTG graphic system to measure traffic, and there you can see if its dedicated or not.


                                                                                      you can use the host node to monitor and store bandwidth just like mrtg does on a snmp poll to a device, linux iptables makes it faily easy to track bandwidth on a ip level. Common way to track bandwidth on a VPS server running a number of VE's.
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                                                                                        • videodoll
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Sep 2006
                                                                                          • 196
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          can't you just login and look in /home for other usernames?

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                                                                                            • woj
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                                                                                              • Jul 2002
                                                                                              • 47880
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by Spudstr
                                                                                              ah, but with computers becomming so fast now, and with software even like the new vmware esx you can easily think our on your own machine when reality your just a VM

                                                                                              A company I use to work for would give out dedicatd servers but they were in reality VMsessions, poor users had no idea and they never complained or said a word about it either.
                                                                                              so that's how they can sell dedicated servers for $49.99/month
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                                                                                                • squishypimp
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                                                                                                  • Aug 2006
                                                                                                  • 10781
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Jarmusch

                                                                                                  "Rest assured your server is dedicated."
                                                                                                  i love it!

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                                                                                                    • detoxed
                                                                                                      vip member
                                                                                                      • Jan 2003
                                                                                                      • 17798
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      That is illegal and I would sue for deception, fraud, false advertising, etc. get them shut the fuckdown.

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                                                                                                        • Jakke PNG
                                                                                                          ex-TeenGodFather
                                                                                                          • Nov 2001
                                                                                                          • 20306
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by TheJimmy
                                                                                                          Let me tell you a little story about a man named r00t...

                                                                                                          For real, I wouldn't get a dedicated without root, just seems rediculous unless your hosting company plans on doing all of your coding/development work. Whe shit needs to be configured, modd'd, recompiled and whatnot, having to wait for a ticket to be done is a serious pain in the ass, or can be...

                                                                                                          .
                                                                                                          I don't have my root.. simply because I'd fuck things up. I'd rather harass the fantastic support guys to do the stuff for me.
                                                                                                          Having to WAIT for a ticket to be done? What's that? Not where I send my tickets to.

                                                                                                          Sorry. I had to spam. But I really don't have root for the above reason. The rest of the statement is true too
                                                                                                          ..and I'm off.

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                                                                                                            • Fabien
                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                              • Jul 2003
                                                                                                              • 4789
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              So, which host playing this trick ?
                                                                                                              Got names ?


                                                                                                              If a host can pull something like. Imagine what they can do ?

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