9-11: What Fired 270 Tons Sideways? A Key Finding at the WTC By: Dr. Stefan Grossmann

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  • chshkt
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    • Mar 2003
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    9-11: What Fired 270 Tons Sideways? A Key Finding at the WTC By: Dr. Stefan Grossmann

    http://www.cloakanddagger.de/_Grossm...s_Sideways.htm



    http://www.photolibrary.fema.gov/pho...ginal/3942.jpg



    What reason was there for the police at ground zero to delete these photos from the photographer?s camera (restored through using Photorescue software)? See at the end of:

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    • Big_Red
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      • Jun 2006
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      #2
      get your tinfoil hats out everyone.
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        • TheDoc
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          • Jul 2001
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          #3
          Is that a picture of the wtc? Or did I miss something, where are the other 100 floors?
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            • Sarah_Jayne
              Now with more Jayne
              • Dec 2002
              • 40077
              #4
              I wish we could go back to a world when people like this wasted their time trying to prove Elvis was still alive.

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                • TheDoc
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                  • Jul 2001
                  • 13827
                  #5
                  Oh its the amex building..
                  And most of those crane shots are DAYS after the buildings went down, very easy to spot that. So after reading that I would like the 2 minutes of my life back.
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                    • Phoenix
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                      • Nov 2002
                      • 35475
                      #6
                      very cool...notice how the right wingers won't engage this..they will make "witty" remarks like...where is elvis..get your tinfoil hats out etc etc
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                        • TheDoc
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                          • Jul 2001
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                          #7
                          Originally posted by Phoenix
                          very cool...notice how the right wingers won't engage this..they will make "witty" remarks like...where is elvis..get your tinfoil hats out etc etc
                          I'm about as far from right as you can get, and I think something alt took place by the gov on 911, but these pictures are stupid.
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                            • BlackCrayon
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                              • Jun 2003
                              • 19634
                              #8
                              Originally posted by sarah_webinc
                              I wish we could go back to a world when people like this wasted their time trying to prove Elvis was still alive.
                              even before the jfk assassination people spent their time on stuff like this, i don't any real 'conspiracy theorists' cared if elvis was still alive or not. its interesting to a point but not worth obsessing over unless you get paid to do so. just a way for people to feel important and they they know more than everyone else does.
                              Last edited by BlackCrayon; 09-12-2006, 06:34 AM.
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                                • Sarah_Jayne
                                  Now with more Jayne
                                  • Dec 2002
                                  • 40077
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                                  even before the jfk assassination people spent their time on stuff like this, its interesting to a point but not worth obsessing over unless you get paid to do so.

                                  Yeah, it is a good thing to question what you are told. However, some people don't know when to stop.

                                  Loch Ness, yetti, etc..it has always been there.

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                                    • Sarah_Jayne
                                      Now with more Jayne
                                      • Dec 2002
                                      • 40077
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by Phoenix
                                      very cool...notice how the right wingers won't engage this..they will make "witty" remarks like...where is elvis..get your tinfoil hats out etc etc
                                      I think that is the first time in my life I have been grouped in with right wingers.

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                                        • BlackCrayon
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                                          • Jun 2003
                                          • 19634
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by sarah_webinc
                                          Yeah, it is a good thing to question what you are told. However, some people don't know when to stop.

                                          Loch Ness, yetti, etc..it has always been there.
                                          true, though these are questions that actually matter, unlike elvis, yetti, loch ness.
                                          you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                                            • Dollarmansteve
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                                              • May 2005
                                              • 2849
                                              #12
                                              I have just two things to say to everyone about anything 9/11 conspiracy related:

                                              1) Definition: DYSSOCIAL SOCIOPATHS

                                              identify and hold an allegiance with a dyssocial, outcast, or predatory subculture. Any subculture will do, as long as it runs counter to established authority. They are capable of intense loyalty, and even a feeling of guilt and shame, within such limited circles. They seem to continually fall upon bad luck and bad companions, however. While they will constantly complain that none of this is their fault, behind it all is a kind of self-defeating mechanism in the poor choices they made themselves.

                                              2) Definition: Paranoia (symptoms)

                                              Paranoia is a type of delusion, a firmly held but nevertheless unrealistic belief. Paranoia is a persecutory delusion that someone will harm you in some way, whether physically, mentally or emotionally.
                                              I died.

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                                                • Phoenix
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                                                  • Nov 2002
                                                  • 35475
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by TheDoc
                                                  I'm about as far from right as you can get, and I think something alt took place by the gov on 911, but these pictures are stupid.

                                                  it is the first time i've seen the pictures as well.

                                                  need time to digest the info before i make a call on it...for all we know the distance it fell coincides perfectly with how far away the building was and how high up the tower fell from with how much pressure it might have been pushed by the falling building.


                                                  However...it sure does look like something to pay attention to
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                                                    • Phoenix
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                                                      • Nov 2002
                                                      • 35475
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by Dollarmansteve
                                                      I have just two things to say to everyone about anything 9/11 conspiracy related:

                                                      1) Definition: DYSSOCIAL SOCIOPATHS

                                                      identify and hold an allegiance with a dyssocial, outcast, or predatory subculture. Any subculture will do, as long as it runs counter to established authority. They are capable of intense loyalty, and even a feeling of guilt and shame, within such limited circles. They seem to continually fall upon bad luck and bad companions, however. While they will constantly complain that none of this is their fault, behind it all is a kind of self-defeating mechanism in the poor choices they made themselves.

                                                      2) Definition: Paranoia (symptoms)

                                                      Paranoia is a type of delusion, a firmly held but nevertheless unrealistic belief. Paranoia is a persecutory delusion that someone will harm you in some way, whether physically, mentally or emotionally.

                                                      hey did you use google to copy and paste this...lol

                                                      thanks DOC
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                                                        • Phoenix
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                                                          • Nov 2002
                                                          • 35475
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by Dollarmansteve
                                                          I have just two things to say to everyone about anything 9/11 conspiracy related:

                                                          1) Definition: DYSSOCIAL SOCIOPATHS

                                                          identify and hold an allegiance with a dyssocial, outcast, or predatory subculture. Any subculture will do, as long as it runs counter to established authority. They are capable of intense loyalty, and even a feeling of guilt and shame, within such limited circles. They seem to continually fall upon bad luck and bad companions, however. While they will constantly complain that none of this is their fault, behind it all is a kind of self-defeating mechanism in the poor choices they made themselves.

                                                          2) Definition: Paranoia (symptoms)

                                                          Paranoia is a type of delusion, a firmly held but nevertheless unrealistic belief. Paranoia is a persecutory delusion that someone will harm you in some way, whether physically, mentally or emotionally.
                                                          since youa re so smart STEVE....whip your pyshics DIck out and prove them wrong...dont quote someone else work.
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                                                            • Dollarmansteve
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                                                              • May 2005
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                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by Phoenix
                                                              since youa re so smart STEVE....whip your pyshics DIck out and prove them wrong...dont quote someone else work.
                                                              Dont worry brad Im not going to hurt you physically, mentally or emotionally.

                                                              Anyway,

                                                              This has nothing to do with physics - and yes its copied and pasted. Would you like a reference? I didnt realize my post would go under such academic scrutiny.
                                                              Last edited by Dollarmansteve; 09-12-2006, 06:53 AM.
                                                              I died.

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                                                                • Phoenix
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                                                                  • Nov 2002
                                                                  • 35475
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by Dollarmansteve
                                                                  What's the matter, Brad, Hit a nerve?

                                                                  Anyway,

                                                                  This has nothing to do with physics - and yes its copied and pasted. Would you like a reference? I didnt realize my post would go under such academic scrutiny.

                                                                  you will never hit a nerve with me..im just tired of naysayers coming in here and not adding to the convo....whip out a pencil and do the math

                                                                  hit a nerve? why dont you suck my dick if you want to tickle a nerve with me...ive got lots right at the tip of it
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                                                                    • L0rdJuni0r
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                                                                      • Oct 2004
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                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by TheDoc
                                                                      Is that a picture of the wtc? Or did I miss something, where are the other 100 floors?
                                                                      no thats another building...read article.
                                                                      i dont know what to belive about 9/11.
                                                                      all i know is it was real, and we need to ask questions.the government always talks about how we should stand togeather(with the government), i think the people should stand togeather and ask questions.

                                                                      thats just my opinion, right or wrong.
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                                                                        • Skunkie
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                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by Dollarmansteve
                                                                          2) Definition: Paranoia (symptoms)

                                                                          Paranoia is a type of delusion, a firmly held but nevertheless unrealistic belief. Paranoia is a persecutory delusion that someone will harm you in some way, whether physically, mentally or emotionally.
                                                                          Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they aren't watching me

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                                                                            • Dollarmansteve
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                                                                              • May 2005
                                                                              • 2849
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by Phoenix
                                                                              you will never hit a nerve with me..im just tired of naysayers coming in here and not adding to the convo....whip out a pencil and do the math

                                                                              hit a nerve? why dont you suck my dick if you want to tickle a nerve with me...ive got lots right at the tip of it
                                                                              1) the article's main point is that is was a nuclear bomb that blew up the towers

                                                                              2) did you watch the video yesterday of the buildings falling down? Or do you think 'the government' made CNN doctor the videos?

                                                                              All in all, the person who wrote that article and the people who believe it are insane and probably suffered from some kind of childhood trauma.
                                                                              I died.

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                                                                                • gooddomains
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                                                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                                                  • 10127
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  aliens from outta space are responsible

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                                                                                    • Scootermuze
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                                                                                      • Dec 2001
                                                                                      • 4513
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by Dollarmansteve

                                                                                      2) Definition: Paranoia (symptoms)

                                                                                      Paranoia is a type of delusion, a firmly held but nevertheless unrealistic belief. Paranoia is a persecutory delusion that someone will harm you in some way, whether physically, mentally or emotionally.

                                                                                      Well, let me step back and review my thinking prior to going into Iraq. First, the lesson of September the 11th is, when this nation sees a threat, a gathering threat, we've got to deal with it. We can no longer hope that oceans protect us from harm., Bush

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                                                                                        • John69
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                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          The pics do not show much, a day late and a dollar short.

                                                                                          this photo guy was needed at the pentagon.
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                                                                                            • fetishblog
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                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              More conspiracy theorist bullshit. Get over it already.

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                                                                                                • Kevsh
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                                                                                                  • Dec 2004
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                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  I've said it before, okay so what if it was a bomb in the towers (or 2 or 8 or 25?)

                                                                                                  Whose to say the terrorists didn't plant them? Why all of the sudden MUST the government planted and detonated them - why assume the WHOLE thing was a conspiracy?

                                                                                                  Terrorists have access to explosives too (as the first attack on the WTC shows).

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                                                                                                    • stev0
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                                                                                                      • Aug 2003
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                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      I bet an explosion caused by a 767 would do a pretty good job at pushing 270 tons sideways

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                                                                                                        • Brad Mitchell
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                                                                                                          • Nov 2001
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                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          I read too much off that link, now I have a headache. Summary: link says our own government fired cruise missiles, etc at the WTC and that little government UFOs were casting holograms over the cruise missles and that no planes actually hit the building.

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                                                                                                            • Huggles
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                                                                                                              • Feb 2003
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                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Basically what happened was the reflection off Juicy D Links' hair gel blinded the pilots and they used a "hijacking" to cover up the story because nobody hates Juicy and everyone wanted to keep him out of jail.
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