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There is no reason to believe in life after death

03-08-2009, 02:21 PM

I told you.

No REASON. Give me a good reason and I debug it.

You will never function as you do as a human being.

There's zero chance.

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03-08-2009, 02:22 PM

I agree.

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03-08-2009, 02:25 PM

Originally posted by maxjohan

I told you.

There is no reason to believe in life after death

That's a pretty dumb assumption given the plethora of paranormal evidence out there.
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03-08-2009, 02:26 PM

Originally posted by notoldschool

I agree.

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03-08-2009, 02:27 PM

Originally posted by maxjohan

I told you.

No REASON. Give me a good reason and I debug it.

You will never function as you do as a human being.

There's zero chance.

You can only get possitively surprised

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03-08-2009, 02:27 PM

Originally posted by RadicalSights

That's a pretty dumb assumption given the plethora of paranormal evidence out there.

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03-08-2009, 02:28 PM

Originally posted by maxjohan

That's no fun, shot boys... I'm ready.

True but its as close to fact as you will come with the shit thats gonna be posted in this thread.

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03-08-2009, 02:28 PM

energy makes you tick.. once it leaves, you are done.

it (energy) was never "you", it was allowing "you" to be "you", and without it.. "you" end

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03-08-2009, 02:30 PM

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energy makes you tick.. once it leaves, you are done.

it (energy) was never "you", it was allowing "you" to be "you", and without it.. "you" end

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03-08-2009, 02:32 PM

Originally posted by RadicalSights

That's a pretty dumb assumption given the plethora of paranormal evidence out there.

Now, could you provide me with a link, regular humans seeing the paranormal life???

You ever heard of photoshop? Manipulations and propaganda? people wants to be famous, that's why they seight ailens, and they are good at "can you guess?"....human psychology.

I could believe we are deeply connected, and could "feel things" coming. The unconscious mind is powerful, yet there's a 100x a leap to go from "gut feelings" to living with your body and brain intact in an after life... and having full awerness.

Now, next.....

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03-08-2009, 02:33 PM

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energy makes you tick.. once it leaves, you are done.

it (energy) was never "you", it was allowing "you" to be "you", and without it.. "you" end

Makes more sense than most mainstream religious beliefs that are being pushed all over the world. Actually, MUCH more believable.

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03-08-2009, 02:38 PM

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Now, next.....

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03-08-2009, 02:48 PM

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03-08-2009, 02:48 PM

There is no reason to believe in the Jewish book of fairy tales either.

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03-08-2009, 02:50 PM

I only have 10 more minutes.

Lets see, my mind is speaking.. yeah, this is it.

Suppose a new born daughter dies 3 weeks after she were born, now what would be the cruesome reason to give in, and get her to the supposed after life.

What would be the purpose of such an act, were she mere an actor in her lifespan, to put pain to her parents life.

And I can't find a good reason in the world why she would have had to go so young, if there were a caring, loving god, with a plan.

Human beings thinks they have an answer to all our own weaknesses. And that's so so fun to hear, I can't wait to interact with "old Lucy" in my after life. Supposedly her brain has developed enough??

That's the question I have to ask myself.

If you believe in God, you are a fool. I did at one point, went back and forth, then I realized, I could as well believe in little fairys.

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03-08-2009, 02:53 PM

Originally posted by maxjohan

I only have 10 more minutes.

Lets see, my mind is speaking.. yeah, this is it.

Suppose a new born daughter dies 3 weeks after she were born, now what would be the cruesome reason to give in, and get her to the supposed after life.

What would be the purpose of such an act, were she mere an actor in her lifespan, to put pain to her parents life.

And I can't find a good reason in the world why she would have had to go so young, if there were a caring, loving god.

Human beings thinks they have an answer to our their own weaknesses. And that's so so fun to hear, I can't wait to interact with "old Lucy" in my after life. Supposedly her brain has developed enough??

That's the question I have to ask myself.

If you believe in God, you are a fool. I did at one point, then I realized, I could as well believe in little fairys.

You're scaring the common folk.

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03-08-2009, 02:56 PM

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03-08-2009, 02:56 PM

Originally posted by notoldschool

You're scaring the common folk.

I'm logging out now, and I see what's here tomorrow, when I wake up. g nite

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03-08-2009, 02:59 PM

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03-08-2009, 03:02 PM

Slightly off topic but... Maybe the more tenable approach (in terms of personal beliefs) would be to derive a sense of meaning WITHIN life not what comes after. What comes after is debatable, what exists is indisputable...

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03-08-2009, 03:16 PM

Originally posted by maxjohan

I only have 10 more minutes.

Lets see, my mind is speaking.. yeah, this is it.

Suppose a new born daughter dies 3 weeks after she were born, now what would be the cruesome reason to give in, and get her to the supposed after life.

What would be the purpose of such an act, were she mere an actor in her lifespan, to put pain to her parents life.

And I can't find a good reason in the world why she would have had to go so young, if there were a caring, loving god, with a plan.

Human beings thinks they have an answer to all our own weaknesses. And that's so so fun to hear, I can't wait to interact with "old Lucy" in my after life. Supposedly her brain has developed enough??

That's the question I have to ask myself.

If you believe in God, you are a fool. I did at one point, went back and forth, then I realized, I could as well believe in little fairys.

Do you believe in the multiverse theory?

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03-08-2009, 04:05 PM

My fathers unshakable belief/faith in Jesus Christ sure brought him peace in his final days.
I guess you need to witness a loved one passing the hard way from a horrible condition before you can appreciate what I mean.
There is a place for faith/belief in the afterlife for some people.

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03-08-2009, 04:12 PM

how do you know we are not all life after death right now

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03-08-2009, 04:19 PM

There is no such thing as reincarnation, but there is such thing as another "life" after death. The bible clearly talks about it. You live another life, in heaven or hell.

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03-08-2009, 04:38 PM

absolutely no way to prove there isn't - i don't believe in it but there's no way anybody will ever be able to prove that there isn't life after death.

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03-08-2009, 04:55 PM

A friend and I had a discussion about life after death and ghosts. Your 'energy' keeps your human form until you die. After you die, this energy has to go somewhere and sometimes keeps the form it previously was. This in turn would be what people see as ghosts, a freak of nature where that energy converges momentarily.

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03-08-2009, 04:56 PM

Originally posted by maxjohan

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03-08-2009, 04:58 PM

Originally posted by GirlBri

There is no such thing as reincarnation, but there is such thing as another "life" after death. The bible clearly talks about it. You live another life, in heaven or hell.

Some people believe that you are in hell. That the souls on this place we call Earth are actually angelic misfits of sorts who followed the wrong leader. All of those souls were banished to hell > Earth > prison planet. These misfit angels were given x amount of time to "get it" or they would suffer the wrath or god. And before you go into saying that's a bunch of new age B.S. these are actually ancient beliefs (pre-bible). The bible would be considered the "New age." More or less what I'm telling you is within the current "New age" religious texts so if you believe in those things that's what you get to look forward to because as the bible says, you're time is up. Which would mean that your soul would be banished to this hell we call earth for an eternity if you don't know why you are here.. Think about from a ghostly story aspect. Every time it's the soul is stuck here on Earth for one reason or another. Wouldn't that mean that they weren't allowed to return to somewhere? Perhaps because they didn't figure out why they were here and how to get back?

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03-08-2009, 05:24 PM

Originally posted by GirlBri

There is no such thing as reincarnation, but there is such thing as another "life" after death. The bible clearly talks about it. You live another life, in heaven or hell.

Wow, im glad there are people like you who can be so sure about what a bunch of guys wrote in a time when electricity would get you hung for witchcraft.

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03-08-2009, 05:28 PM

Originally posted by RadicalSights

That's a pretty dumb assumption given the plethora of paranormal evidence out there.

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03-08-2009, 06:58 PM

just a reminder, we're all stardust. no better no worse than stars themselves. we're their life after death, fair enough? )

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03-08-2009, 07:12 PM

I think there is more evidence of UFO's then life after death.

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03-08-2009, 07:26 PM

only one way to find out. One of you kill yourself and if there if life after death come here and tell us or try to prove it to us.. If you don't come back to tell us about it we will know that there is no life after death. ;)

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03-08-2009, 07:28 PM

Originally posted by Yngwie

only one way to find out. One of you kill yourself and if there if life after death come here and tell us or try to prove it to us.. If you don't come back to tell us about it we will know that there is no life after death. ;)

I won't be testing this theory though. haha

None of the people I would have test the theory have posted in this thread yet so I'm sad

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03-08-2009, 08:29 PM

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03-08-2009, 08:46 PM

if you have to "believe" in something, then that shit is made up...

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03-08-2009, 09:11 PM

Originally posted by RadicalSights

That's a pretty dumb assumption given the plethora of paranormal evidence out there.

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03-08-2009, 09:13 PM

The only way to really come close to proving this is paranormal events, but non believers will just brush the stories off as fabrications every single time.

Those who have seen, felt or heard ghosts, had an experience with ouija boards, dreams, OBE, etc... usually don't need to be persuaded.

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03-08-2009, 09:46 PM

Originally posted by maxjohan

I told you.

No REASON. Give me a good reason and I debug it.

You will never function as you do as a human being.

There's zero chance.

Because a lot of people feel happier to think they will go to a better place. If there is or isn't life after death isn't the point, if it make someone happier in there life then let them believe.

I think is a perfect reason to believe in life after death!

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03-08-2009, 09:52 PM

Originally posted by Matt 26z

The only way to really come close to proving this is paranormal events, but non believers will just brush the stories off as fabrications every single time.

Those who have seen, felt or heard ghosts, had an experience with ouija boards, dreams, OBE, etc... usually don't need to be persuaded.

Holy fucking shit. That's a pretty profound response. You seriously believe in ghosts? Wow. Please don't mistake my shock as interest, it's just that I'm having a real hard time wrapping my head around this one. It has never occured to me that some force, unexplained by science and nature could somehow communicate, interact with or control me. Makes me laugh to be honest.

It's hard to persuade people who believe in this crap. The same "I believe" bullshit is what propagates religion (And A&E) as well. Why not take logical steps to explain the ouija board, the "experiences", the dreams (While little is understood about dreams it is my layman's understanding that dreams are a process in which our brain processes memories and has ABSOFUCKINGLOOOOOOTLEEEY nothing to do with casper and his friends).

Ghosts are total bullshit, and if you believe in ghosts you SERIOUSLY need to re-evaluate your position in the world. The same goes for you religous nuts. No god, no casper, I'm sorry to inform you.

When Egon, Peter, Ray, Jesus, and the rest of the Ghostbusters provide _QUANTITATIVE_ data to those of us (Can Jesus provide us with usable data? Or does he only talk to people who belive in him like Santa does?) who prefer to think with our brains rather than our emotions, then perhaps I'll take you people seriously.

Until you either catch jesus or a catch ghost, all I can say to you is:

Boo!
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03-08-2009, 09:53 PM

Why do people ever bother to discuss anything deeper than "would you hit it" here. Almost all the posters on this board are anti anything that would prove an existence beyond being stoned and fucking anything that moves anyway.
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03-09-2009, 01:35 AM

Originally posted by biskoppen

Do you believe in the multiverse theory?

Could this be a possbility?

Now, let us not involve a creator like God in a multiuniverse.

There couldn't be a purpose big enough, to let us all go through different multiuniverses.

If there is multiuniverses, I believe the purpose of it, is to break down your universal thoughts in different layers and fragments you have left on earth.

Which could be one reason why some sensitive people get
flashbacks and visions when they step in a room.

It's recyling, just like batteries.

Some may get aware of that the mind, "soul energy" and memories are going to get
breaked down in a process.

You may have the fortune to interact on the first levels, just as in your dream when you may be able to think.

But... you will never again wake up and get back to full awerness again, like we have here, as living human beings.

The multiverse will not get us to some positive "heaven like place", only a dream like state. Now, that's just a theory, if there even is multiuniverses.

Here is another theory, if there is a creator of all this, why on earth wouldn't he give us all needs we love about mankind. But in a reverse place.

Beauty & health, we could be born looking as we are in our later days, after 50-60-70 years we have the best health and looks of our lifespan.

Wouldn't this be better than how we really is built, through evolution.

You may say, it's only the mind which matures by time.

So why are many clueless? Mankind is a lucky shot, nothing else.

We can interact now, yet when we die, we do it one at a time.

We are individs, with no real meaning to each other.

Forget about the lion kings kingdom, dogs will bark in multiverses, or could they talk like we?
The development process ends on all levels when we die. The End.

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03-09-2009, 01:39 AM

Originally posted by Matt 26z

The only way to really come close to proving this is paranormal events, but non believers will just brush the stories off as fabrications every single time.

Those who have seen, felt or heard ghosts, had an experience with ouija boards, dreams, OBE, etc... usually don't need to be persuaded.

4-5 years ago I were a member of a OBE/lucidity message board. You know, some are quite normal, others you could seen had just been out of mental health care.

One thread were several pages long, the discussion were about "hunting and traveling in to other people dreams and interacting" - Nightriders or something.

It's like playing WOW with other people in their dreams. See wackos gets more wack by seeking the unknown. It just escalades with time.

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03-09-2009, 03:13 AM

Originally posted by Superterrorizer

1. There is no "god"
2. There are no "ghosts"
3. People who believe in gods and ghosts should be killed so they can learn rules #1 and #2 first hand.

Thanks for the laugh.

I wants to add to your list, the 21st centuries "witch hunt" -- aliens.

And more recently human like aliens. It's fricking disgust me that some people believe there is men and women in society looking just like us, but - they are aliens from another planet.

Michel jordan an Alien? I bet you could push it on some people, and they would swallow the bait, Usain Bolt, Alien? Fedor Emalienko is deff an alien.

Obama is the first black alien... didn't you know, he arrived here on earth in 1995, when the real Obama died, he is actually from a planet called, Cooloio.

See, this is how hard it is, and I'm not even trying here. Still some people would buy it with a spade.

The more unrealistic it is, the more some maniacs will believe it's real.

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03-09-2009, 03:42 AM

Originally posted by Matt 26z

The only way to really come close to proving this is paranormal events, but non believers will just brush the stories off as fabrications every single time.

Those who have seen, felt or heard ghosts, had an experience with ouija boards, dreams, OBE, etc... usually don't need to be persuaded.

"non believers"

i'll tell you what... how about you show some concrete, scientific, peer reviewed studies that confirm the existence of "ghosts"... otherwise, you can't prove that you're not making shit up, that your not imagining shit, that you're minds not playing tricks on you, that your seeing God wasn't just low blood sugar and you're seeing your long lost aunt edna wasn't just a brain tumor slowly growing.

when you need to believe something... that should be your first hint that you have a need to stop and start asking yourself some important questions.
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03-09-2009, 04:37 AM

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03-09-2009, 04:43 AM

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03-09-2009, 04:43 AM

Originally posted by maxjohan

Could this be a possbility?

Now, let us not involve a creator like God in a multiuniverse.

There couldn't be a purpose big enough, to let us all go through different multiuniverses.

If there is multiuniverses, I believe the purpose of it, is to break down your universal thoughts in different layers and fragments you have left on earth.

Which could be one reason why some sensitive people get
flashbacks and visions when they step in a room.

It's recyling, just like batteries.

Some may get aware of that the mind, "soul energy" and memories are going to get
breaked down in a process.

You may have the fortune to interact on the first levels, just as in your dream when you may be able to think.

But... you will never again wake up and get back to full awerness again, like we have here, as living human beings.

The multiverse will not get us to some positive "heaven like place", only a dream like state. Now, that's just a theory, if there even is multiuniverses.

Here is another theory, if there is a creator of all this, why on earth wouldn't he give us all needs we love about mankind. But in a reverse place.

Beauty & health, we could be born looking as we are in our later days, after 50-60-70 years we have the best health and looks of our lifespan.

Wouldn't this be better than how we really is built, through evolution.

You may say, it's only the mind which matures by time.

So why are many clueless? Mankind is a lucky shot, nothing else.

We can interact now, yet when we die, we do it one at a time.

We are individs, with no real meaning to each other.

Forget about the lion kings kingdom, dogs will bark in multiverses, or could they talk like we?
The development process ends on all levels when we die. The End.

Not sure if you got the multiverse theory correct. Without the existence of a multiverse the odds of there actualyl existing a creator is endless high.. by that I'm not saying one thing or another..

The "settings" in our universe is so exact made for stars .. solar systems .. galaxies .. even matter to be made that just a tiny adjustment on any parameter of the forces (gravity, electro magnetism etc) would do that nothing we see today would have existed.. in other words.. so, our universe seems very constructed UNLESS there's another universe for every other possible settings of forces.

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03-09-2009, 04:54 AM

believing in life after death as with believing in God or a higher power is just a mechanism for us simple baboons to make sense out of life, our existence and cope with the anxiety over the ups and downs of life, the finality of death and loss of loved ones.

its not necessary... but its a medical fact that those who desperately cling to such beliefs are more healthy emotionally than those who don't, have less stress, have less anxiety and have a greater sense of purpose and general sense of well being.

i don't believe in god or an afterlife... but i do understand the power of religion, belief systems and their connection to sound mental health.
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03-09-2009, 04:59 AM

Originally posted by Matt 26z

Those who have seen, felt or heard ghosts, had an experience with ouija boards, dreams, OBE, etc... usually don't need to be persuaded.

Exactly.. most people who you see bashing people who believe in paranormal have never had any experiences themselves. And would probably end up dead from a heart attack if they ever do...
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