Aside from a few old skool text tgps (thehun/worldsex etc) are text TGPs dead?
Thumb TGPs are the norm now?
Discuss.
Thumb TGPs are the norm now?
Discuss.
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There are some text guys with some pretty sweet traffic. Not all of them are as old as you think.
Mike/Bike has a text network of TGP's that has alot of traffic, very good traffic too.sig too big -
well there are very few NEW text tgp arround but i think they will come back!
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Why do you think that?Originally posted by ffmihai
If I was surfing for porn galleries, nothing could persuade me to browse text TGPs. Thumbs are so much cooler.Comment
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Text TGP dead?
theshemp
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pussy.org
persiankitty
thehun
richardsrealm
worldsex
al4a
ampland
elephantlist
marks bookmarks
I could go on
Some have other sites or are moving/mixing in thumbs. Text TGPs represent a ton of traffic! Still plenty of modems out there.Comment
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pinkworld ^^^Comment
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Yes text TGP's are dead... in China. 95% of the chinese population prefers Thumb TGP's.Comment
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Yeah but try comparing it to the nuymber of thumb TGPs...Originally posted by pussyluverComment
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im still amazed sponsors allow their content to be used as "trade bait" on those thumb TGPsOriginally posted by DarkJediComment
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Can you please expand on that?Originally posted by the ShempComment
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Think he means the skimming partOriginally posted by DarkJedi
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...isnt it obvious?...the thumbs are often being used as trade bait, to redirect the surfer to another TGP...not to the gallery...imo, that is an improper use of sponsors content..Originally posted by DarkJediComment
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With the ammended 2257 requirements recently passed & the lack of sponsors willing to allow webmaster physical custody of docs, I went all text on my entire network. (some still have a few thumbs, but they're all non nude thumbs)..Comment
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There is no way sponsors could regulate that.Originally posted by QuaShe
Besides, they are getting free traffic, why would they care.Comment
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who cares about that if the sales are good?Originally posted by the ShempI don't use ICQ anymore.Comment
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if I was a surfer I'd masturbate to dansmovies.com dailyI don't use ICQ anymore.Comment
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Originally posted by DarkJedi
you are assuming they are getting as much free traffic back as they are losing...there is no data to back that up...clearly some sponsors will benefit and some will not...Comment
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Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
you are assuming they are getting as many sales back, as they are losing...there is no data to back that up...clearly some sponsors will benefit and some will not...Comment
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Fixed.Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
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They aren't losing any sales. FHGs are all about getting traffic.Originally posted by the ShempComment
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The only sponsor I knew who actively tried to prevent this was ATK. But it is a task virtually impossible to regulate. Possible sure, but very labor intensive.XXXRewards - Karups - Boyfun - Jawked. Paying on time since 1997. Contact me at brent [at] xxxrewards.comComment
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Text tgp's are some of the largest tgp's in the world.
I don't see them slowing down a bit?
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Originally posted by the Shemp
I know a couple that have not let thumb tgp's that skim. All it meant at the end of the day was less affiliates though.
Affiliates wont change their sites to fit sponsors in the main. Most want sponsors who fit their business model
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There are always going to be surfers who prefer text TGPs.
BTW, you would think skimming on a thumb TGP would piss the surfer off.
You click the picture because thats what you want to see and then your given another thumb TGP and 90 more thumbs that have to load7Comment
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Same shit with text tgps, save a few.Originally posted by kennyComment
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oh yeah, you must be rightOriginally posted by DarkJediFixed.
just like with that random pic from google images that you pretend its me
I don't use ICQ anymore.Comment
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no disrecpect to you, but I think all sponsors benefit from that modelOriginally posted by the Shemp
but then again, I just came from playing soccer so I'm tired, and since I don't run either a TGP nor a sponsor program, I don't really feel the need to debate it
I don't use ICQ anymore.Comment
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Shemp is talking about sites that when a thumb is clicked, the thumb does not link to the FHG or gallery advertising the sponsor. The link instead leads to another TGP or trade site. The sponsor is losing out because the content is being misused. As Shemp pointed out, it is "trade bait". Linking to a trade using sponsor content does not benefit that sponsor one bit.Originally posted by DarkJediComment
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Ofcourse it pisses the surfer off. Thats why I rather have a 50k non skim tgp than a 200k skimming one. But its harder to grow ofcourse when they don't skim.Originally posted by kenny
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Lets put it this way..Originally posted by DarkJedi
I don't think the surfer really gives a fuck either way as long he/she gets what they come for
Obviously a surfer will like a no skim text TGP over a thumb one set at 60% and vice versa7Comment
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I don't know if sponsors benifit from having their thumbs skimmed on TGPs.
The surfer might remember the girl and stay away from clicking anything with her image on it.
especially if they tried it more then once and ended up with spyware or something7Comment
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I get some of if not the best quality of traffic from Shemp.com ratios are always great with the traffic.Comment
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there is no money in text TGP's, so move along.
there is no traffic coming from text TGP's, now please leave.Comment
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To answer the question, no I don't think text TGP sites are dead. The only reason it appears that thumb sites rule, is because of the marketing and that they are visually appealing, so everyone and their brother launched one.
Some people are learning that switching over to a thumb only format, isn't producing as much profit and/or traffic for them as their text only format, so some people are switching back to text or a combination of thumbs and text.Comment
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i personally think that text tegp's will slow down in the next 5 years. people with content (2257 compliant) are already experimenting with different forms...Comment
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Text is awesome.. very l33tOriginally posted by DarkJediICQ: 193.211.414 -
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There are a lot of big ones... look at sunporno.Originally posted by rayadp05Comment
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I think it should be noted theres a difference between a CJ and a regular thumb TGP. You can't lump them both together.Originally posted by shemp
The CJ sites I can see as being used improperly cuz you cant get a single click to the gallery, meaning the thumb is in no way being used to promote the sponsor so the content is being used improperly according to most sponsor rules.
But theres not much negative said or to be said about the accepted TGP style of 50 - 80 skim. The more traffic a TGP gets from using that thumb as a trade tool results in more traffic going to that thumb link anyways. Who's going to complain about that?
As for text tgp's, we've seen a tonne of American webmasters switch to this format since 2257. Theyre one way to ensure your traffic is good quality I suppose, weeding out the non english speakers. And of course SE is better with them. But thumb TGP's are visually pleasing and hard to beat in an industry that is based on visual pleasure.Last edited by Doug E; 09-10-2006, 12:43 PM.Comment
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thanks for the TGP info...i'll make a note of it ;)Originally posted by Doug EComment
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Yes, there is a difference between a CJ and a regular thumb TGP. But the basic point still remains the same. Both a CJ and a regular thumb TGP feed their trades using mostly sponsor provided content, whether it is from a submitter or creating a fake TGP. Few sites consist of purchased content alone. The only benefit to the sponsor would be if the TGP or CJ site concentrated on only their sites within their program. When a site begins to list galleries advertising multiple sponsors, the competition gets fierce for the traffic. Even with 50-80 skim, it's still a misuse of sponsor content.Originally posted by Doug E
The only time a CJ or TGP site is not misusing content, is if the site has no skim whatsoever, the site only skims traffic from thumbs of their purchased content, or the skimmed sponsor thumbs link to custom sites or tour pages advertising only that sponsor the thumb belongs to.
Whenever a site uses a sponsor thumb that links to anywhere other than a site, gallery, or custom page solely advertising that sponsor, it's misusing sponsor content no matter what the skim rate is.
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This topic is fucking retarded. Most of the largest fucking TGPs on the planet are in text only format and do not skim. Even your larger thumb TGPs such as Madthumbs, Bunnyteens, OnlyCarla etc will give you a gallery for the first 3 clicks. Guess what happens after that? trade fucking city. Im not saying that there are no CJ text sites of course there are. I just think that people tend to trust a text tgp more so than they would a thumb TGP i.e. madthumbs given their track record. they suck. Great business model if the year was 2000. Moronic business model when the year reflects 2006.
oh yeah and do not fuck with what the Shemp says. He pwns all of your turd peons. anyone that wants to fuck with that statement can suck the assjuice out of last weeks underwear from the floor of my closet. and another for you mother fucker.
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LOL! ....Originally posted by the Shemp
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Originally posted by the Shemp
Whitehat is for chumps
If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!Comment
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My program is to small to deny affiliates doing that. I'd loose 90% of my affiliates or traffic if I did not allow thatOriginally posted by the ShempM&A QueenComment
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Originally posted by DarkJedi
LOL, no text link TGP/MPG's are very much alive and kicking these days.
Thumb TGP/MPG's are by far the most popular out of the two as these days there are loads of adult webmasters so very keen to give a surfer easier access to free porn to get the traffic stats up quickly so they can make a few $ selling partner accounts on the back of their "impresive" traffic stats.Laughing Out LoudComment
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Most people make thumb tgps nowadays, because they are easier to grow. But text tgps convert a lot better, the traffic is more tartgetted because of descriptions(if they are good). Right now I know only 1 good converting thumb tgp.Comment
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I love my text sites.... can't beat the free SE traffic
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Text GPs are likely to increase in popularity because:
1) Light on bandwidth.
2) Text qualifies surfers more - a lot of window shoppers will leave a text GP and conversly, the non-(thumbnail)-clutter of a text GP attracts serious surfers (who convert).
3) With sponsors offering FHG and descriptions, it's much easier to blast off several hundred pages/niches of text GPs.
4) While it's a soft advantage, 2257 seems to have convinced many affiliates to go non-graphic (to avoid hosting explicit image content) - text GP wins again, although I'm not sure that 2257 exempts (or will exempt) explicit sexual text as much as many would like to think.
5) Oh yeh, SE traffic rocks and it's FREE to text GPs!Comment
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Fuck, was reading and saw Doctor Dre sign image (the one about steve) ROFL so cruel! hahahahaComment
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I'm not so sure about that. When surfers click on a thumb tha get directed to a TGP site instead of the gallery, they think twice about re-clicking on the same thumb.Originally posted by DarkJediComment
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