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  • dunefield
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    • Feb 2003
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    #1

    What would America be like now if Al Gore was President?

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  • Quotealex
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    • Sep 2001
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    #2
    It would me no difference. US presidents are mere puppets for the powers at be.

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    • Klen
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      #3
      Well atleast there will be more freedom if nothing else.

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      • polish_aristocrat
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        • Jul 2002
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        #4
        do you think Gore will run again?
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        • Scootermuze
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          #5
          Originally posted by Alex from Montreal
          It would me no difference. US presidents are mere puppets for the powers at be.
          With the exception of a few thousand lives not lost over nothing..

          Gore didn't have an agenda with Hussein, and nobody can say for sure either way what might have happened on 9/11 had he been in office..

          Probably wouldn't have been illegal wiretaps, or a warped patriot act..

          But you're right in the sense that he would still have been just 1 fish in a pond of many..

          Probably ban the cutting of grass..

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          • NetRodent
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            • Jan 2002
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            #6
            Civil liberties would be just as eroded under Gore, all in the name of fighting ManBearPig.
            "Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."
            --H.L. Mencken

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            • scottybuzz
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              #7
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              • stickyfingerz
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                #8
                Well Im sure global warming would of caused less hurricanes this year if he had been in office.....

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                • notabook
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by NetRodent
                  Civil liberties would be just as eroded under Gore, all in the name of fighting ManBearPig.
                  God damn it, I hate fucking ManBearPig with a passion, I?m super cereal. That guy is nothing but trouble? he?s killed millions and we still let the fucker roam free!

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                  • DateDoc
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                    • Feb 2005
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                    Well Im sure global warming would of caused less hurricanes this year if he had been in office.....
                    Hmmm, and for all those ppl that said global warming caused the hurricanes last year what happened this year? Sure, there is a while to go yet in the hurricane season but we are at what is the typical peak of hurricane season. Guess that was just more BS spouted.

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                    • Dvae
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                      Well Im sure global warming would of caused less hurricanes this year if he had been in office.....



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                      • stickyfingerz
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by BusterPorn
                        Hmmm, and for all those ppl that said global warming caused the hurricanes last year what happened this year? Sure, there is a while to go yet in the hurricane season but we are at what is the typical peak of hurricane season. Guess that was just more BS spouted.
                        of course it was bullshit. lol Everyone ask someone in their 80's what summers were like when they were kids.

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                        • BlackCrayon
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                          #13
                          things would probably be better economic wise at least.
                          you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                          • stickyfingerz
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                            things would probably be better economic wise at least.
                            Economy is strongest its been in 20 years. What you talkin bout willis?

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                            • GrouchyAdmin
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                              #15
                              United Muslim States of America

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                              • escorpio
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                                #16
                                Rainbows, unicorns and cotton candy clouds.
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                                • split_joel
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                                  #17
                                  dude are you nuts? The Economy is worse then it has been in the longest time.

                                  Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                                  Economy is strongest its been in 20 years. What you talkin bout willis?
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                                  • FunForOne
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                                    #18
                                    Everything he promised simple minded demorats would have come true by now.
                                    Superman and Teenwolf would have been cured.
                                    No hurricanes would hit the U.S.
                                    Icebergs wouldn't melt in the summer.
                                    Poor people would be rich and rich people would be poor.
                                    Black preachers would be the richest men in America.
                                    Dirt Famers would get rain machines
                                    Clinton's recession wouldn't have been reported in the media.
                                    Social Security money would be in a lock box under his bed.
                                    Inner city children would stop shooting each other.
                                    Europeans would love the U.S.
                                    Terrorists would stop blowing up our shit.

                                    Essentially the same thing democrats promise every four years with no ability to deliever.

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                                    • BlackCrayon
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                                      • Jun 2003
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                                      Economy is strongest its been in 20 years. What you talkin bout willis?
                                      unemployment is high, especially when you take into account the people who have been unemployed for so long they no longer are counted.

                                      is the average american better off money wise now than he was 10 years ago? not from what i see.
                                      you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                                      • stickyfingerz
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by split_joel
                                        dude are you nuts? The Economy is worse then it has been in the longest time.
                                        Nope you need to double check your stats. And your cell phone aint lettin me call you yo...

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                                        • blazi
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                                          #21
                                          guess that is something we will never know!!

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                                          • Splum
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by split_joel
                                            dude are you nuts? The Economy is worse then it has been in the longest time.
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                                            • Splum
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                                              unemployment is high, especially when you take into account the people who have been unemployed for so long they no longer are counted.

                                              is the average american better off money wise now than he was 10 years ago? not from what i see.
                                              Unemployment is lower than it was 10 yrs ago. You either are a) young b) have a short memory c) are a liberal d) a liar

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                                              • stickyfingerz
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                                                unemployment is high, especially when you take into account the people who have been unemployed for so long they no longer are counted.

                                                is the average american better off money wise now than he was 10 years ago? not from what i see.
                                                Way way way better off now. Unemployment is low. Where you getting your stats from?

                                                Total nonfarm payroll employment increased by 128,000 in August, and the
                                                unemployment rate was little changed at 4.7 percent, the Bureau of Labor.
                                                http://stats.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm

                                                What was the best rate in the last 20 years? Not much lower, and dont give me this McDonalds crap either. Wouldnt have a housing boom with people working at mcdonalds. lol

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                                                • Splum
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                                                  Economy is strongest its been in 20 years. What you talkin bout willis?
                                                  Thats a stretch, but it is VERY STRONG right now, Bush has done a good job getting us out of the dot-com bust, the earnings scandals(enron etc), September 11th and a recession that Clinton started.

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                                                  • stickyfingerz
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Splum
                                                    Thats a stretch, but it is VERY STRONG right now, Bush has done a good job getting us out of the dot-com bust, the earnings scandals(enron etc), September 11th and a recession that Clinton started.
                                                    Its up there, dont forget Clinton was scrubbing numbers a bit there too.

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                                                    • 2HousePlague
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                                                      #27
                                                      The skyline would be different.


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                                                      • tony299
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                                                        #28
                                                        911 wouldnt of happened if al gore was president.

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                                                        • Kimo
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                                                          #29
                                                          blah blah blah


                                                          i think their would be more internet regulation
                                                          ...

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                                                          • Splum
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Kimo
                                                            i think their would be more internet regulation
                                                            Wel of course there would be more internet regulation, after all Al Gore invented the internet

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                                                            • CheneyRumsfeld
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                                                              #31
                                                              with a president who would have a tree for a vice president?
                                                              wtf do you think?
                                                              he's an idiot.

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                                                              • Webby
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                                                                • Oct 2002
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                                                                Economy is strongest its been in 20 years. What you talkin bout willis?
                                                                Listen Sticky - told you before. Don't open your mouth so much - it's too embarrassing
                                                                XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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                                                                • Webby
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Splum
                                                                  Thats a stretch, but it is VERY STRONG right now, Bush has done a good job getting us out of the dot-com bust, the earnings scandals(enron etc), September 11th and a recession that Clinton started.
                                                                  Sheesh... another GFY economist living off the national credit card.

                                                                  Clue - every day other nations are owning your ass to a greater extent.

                                                                  US currency is worth little in comparison (eg 40% less against the Euro).

                                                                  China owns more of the US than anyone and is thinking of dumping billions of their US dollars.

                                                                  Sure, the economy is very strong - and Bush is an excellent manager of the economy.
                                                                  XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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                                                                  • Dvae
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by split_joel
                                                                    dude are you nuts? The Economy is worse then it has been in the longest time.


                                                                    Yes, I noticed we have soup lines as far as the eye can see.
                                                                    People are starving. What a shame.
                                                                    Damn that Bush!!


                                                                    Originally posted by Webby
                                                                    Bush is an excellent manager of the economy.
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                                                                    Arguing with a troll is a lot like wrestling in the mud with a pig, after a couple of hours you realize the pig likes it.

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                                                                    • Dvae
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                                                                      unemployment is high, especially when you take into account the people who have been unemployed for so long they no longer are counted.

                                                                      is the average american better off money wise now than he was 10 years ago? not from what i see.
                                                                      Personally I'm way better off. For one thing no debt except mortgage.
                                                                      Got some savings plus 401K that I did not have 10 yrs ago.

                                                                      The reason people are in debt up to their eyeballs is simple, they spend way beyond their means. They have to have the million dollar home 2 or 3 new cars. Its their own fault.

                                                                      If people are unemployed as you claim, again its their own fault. If you live in an economically depressed area pick your butt up and move to where the work is.

                                                                      You are responsible for you!


                                                                      Originally posted by Webby
                                                                      Bush is an excellent manager of the economy.
                                                                      Last edited by Dvae; 09-09-2006, 02:26 PM.
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                                                                      • escorpio
                                                                        doesn't fuck around.
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by tony404
                                                                        911 wouldnt of happened if al gore was president.
                                                                        Why is that? Because Muslim terrorists hate George Bush but love Democrats? He was vice-president when terrorists bombed the WTC in 1993.
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                                                                        • SirMoby
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Good Things

                                                                          1. We wouldn't be fighting in Iraq and because Saddam was still in power Iran would not be playing with nuke tech.

                                                                          2. The USA would not be going about $1,000,000,000,000 every year.

                                                                          3. Congress would not be writing bills that say we should bypass the Supreme Court.

                                                                          4. We would have fewer poor people and fewer filthy rich people.

                                                                          5. We would have 2,500,000 more manufacturing jobs.

                                                                          6. Oil prices would be lower.

                                                                          7. We'd still be producing the M3 report.

                                                                          8. The dollar would be stronger

                                                                          9. US foriegn policy would not be producing as many terrorists

                                                                          Bad Things

                                                                          1. We would be higher taxes.

                                                                          2. Prices at Walmart would be higher since we'd have a tariff of 27% on Chinese goods

                                                                          3. We would have less foreign investment in the USA.

                                                                          4. 9/11 would have happened any way.

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                                                                          • directfiesta
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                                                                            Nope you need to double check your stats. And your cell phone aint lettin me call you yo...
                                                                            Why don't you post yours ....

                                                                            This thing of posting proof that it is not ... is a new GOP thing or what ..

                                                                            You say it is the best, well prove it...

                                                                            BTW, I disproved you on the same claim in another thread... that you elected to ignore from that point on ...
                                                                            I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                                                            But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                                                            • Webby
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Dvae:

                                                                              Appreciate the compliment in being quoted in your sig

                                                                              Quote:
                                                                              Originally Posted by Webby
                                                                              Bush is an excellent manager of the economy.
                                                                              However, there is thing called sarcasm. It may say a lot if you do not understand it's meaning or miss the usage.

                                                                              As an aid to education - the full meaning is here:
                                                                              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm

                                                                              And, just as a reminder of the real content:


                                                                              Quote:
                                                                              Originally Posted by Webby

                                                                              Sheesh... another GFY economist living off the national credit card.

                                                                              Clue - every day other nations are owning your ass to a greater extent.

                                                                              US currency is worth little in comparison (eg 40% less against the Euro).

                                                                              China owns more of the US than anyone and is thinking of dumping billions of their US dollars.

                                                                              Sure, the economy is very strong - and Bush is an excellent manager of the economy.
                                                                              Try stuff the full quote in your sig
                                                                              XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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                                                                              • Dvae
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by Webby
                                                                                Dvae:

                                                                                Appreciate the compliment in being quoted in your sig
                                                                                No problem.
                                                                                Anything for the 'pimple' on the butt of GFY!



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                                                                                • aico
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  I think less countries would be laughing at us. If that matters... lol.

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                                                                                  • pussyluver
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    The military budget would be cut and it would report through the United Nations.

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                                                                                    • pussyluver
                                                                                      Clueless OleMan
                                                                                      • Mar 2003
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      There might be a draft, but it would be more like the peace core. Boot Camp would be mostly sensitivity training.

                                                                                      A rumor would circulate that Gore was seeing a shrink trying to find his true personality.

                                                                                      Rush Limbaugh might not be on the air as there would have been federal charges involving his drug use.

                                                                                      12clicks would be uncontrollable.

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                                                                                      • DaddyHalbucks
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Gasoline would be $1 a gallon, milk and honey would flow freely in our city streets, and Cindy Sheehan would be a porn star.
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                                                                                        • Dvae
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Don't forget all the funny quotes we'd have.
                                                                                          Even with out being Prez he's racked up some doozies!

                                                                                          "A zebra does not change its spots." - Al Gore, attacking President George Bush in 1992.

                                                                                          "We are ready for any unforeseen event that may or may not occur."-- 9/22/97

                                                                                          "For NASA, space is still a high priority."-- 9/5/93

                                                                                          "Quite frankly, teachers are the only profession that teach our children."

                                                                                          "The Holocaust was an obscene period in our nation's history. I mean in this century's history. But we all lived in this century. I didn't live in this century."-- 9/15/95

                                                                                          "It isn't pollution that's harming the environment. It's the impurities in our air and water that are doing it."

                                                                                          "[It's] time for the human race to enter the solar system."

                                                                                          "We're all capable of mistakes, but I do not care to enlighten you on the mistakes we may or may not have made."

                                                                                          "I believe we are on an irreversible trend toward more freedom and democracy - but that could change."-- 5/22/98

                                                                                          "One word sums up probably the responsibility of any vice president, and that one word is 'to be prepared.'"-- 12/6/93

                                                                                          "Verbosity leads to unclear, inarticulate things."-- 11/30/96

                                                                                          "I have made good judgments in the past. I have made good judgments in the future."

                                                                                          "The future will be better tomorrow."

                                                                                          "We're going to have the best-educated American people in the world."-- 9/21/97

                                                                                          "I stand by all the misstatements that I've made."-- 8/17/93

                                                                                          "We have a firm commitment to NATO, we are a *part* of NATO. We have a firm commitment to Europe. We are a *part* of Europe."

                                                                                          -- Vice President Al Gore
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                                                                                          Arguing with a troll is a lot like wrestling in the mud with a pig, after a couple of hours you realize the pig likes it.

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                                                                                          • Dvae
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            And theres more...

                                                                                            "I am not part of the problem. I am a Democrat."

                                                                                            "A low voter turnout is an indication of fewer people going to the polls."

                                                                                            "Illegitimacy is something we should talk about in terms of not having it."--5/20/1996

                                                                                            "Democrats understand the importance of bondage between a mother and child."

                                                                                            "Welcome to President Clinton, Mrs. Clinton, and my fellow astronauts."

                                                                                            "Mars is essentially in the same orbit... Mars is somewhat the same distance from the Sun, which is very important. We have seen pictures where there are canals, we believe, and water. If there is water, that means there is oxygen. If oxygen, that means we can breathe."

                                                                                            "What a waste it is to lose one's mind. Or not to have a mind is being very wasteful. How true that is."

                                                                                            "People that are really very weird can get into sensitive positions and have tremendous impact on history."

                                                                                            "When I have been asked who caused the riots and the killing in L.A., my answer has been direct and simple: Who is to blame for the riots? The rioters are to blame. Who is to blame for the killings? The killers are to blame."

                                                                                            "The American people would not want to know of any misquotes that Al Gore may or may not make."

                                                                                            "During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet."

                                                                                            "When you have the facts on your side, argue the facts. When you have the law on your side, argue the law. When you have neither, holler."
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                                                                                            • LittleMack
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by Alex from Montreal
                                                                                              It would me no difference. US presidents are mere puppets for the powers at be.

                                                                                              I totally agree, be same shit, it is all a big fucking game to keep the masses under control.
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                                                                                              • BlackCrayon
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by Splum
                                                                                                Unemployment is lower than it was 10 yrs ago. You either are a) young b) have a short memory c) are a liberal d) a liar
                                                                                                im 28. i don't spend my time researching this stuff. i just go on what i see in day to day life. unemployment may look like its lower than 10 years ago but what about all the people who don't get counted? who knows what the numbers would be like if an accurate count was taken.

                                                                                                all i know is i don't see people spending like they used to. this is a pointless discussion though because people will never be able to lose their bias towards whatever party they feel is 'right'.
                                                                                                you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                                                                                                • BlackCrayon
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Dvae
                                                                                                  Personally I'm way better off. For one thing no debt except mortgage.
                                                                                                  Got some savings plus 401K that I did not have 10 yrs ago.

                                                                                                  The reason people are in debt up to their eyeballs is simple, they spend way beyond their means. They have to have the million dollar home 2 or 3 new cars. Its their own fault.

                                                                                                  If people are unemployed as you claim, again its their own fault. If you live in an economically depressed area pick your butt up and move to where the work is.

                                                                                                  You are responsible for you!
                                                                                                  in my opinion you can't count people in our business. its far different from the average worker who relies on quarterly profits of the company they work for to keep their jobs.
                                                                                                  you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                                                                                                  • tony299
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                                                                                                    im 28. i don't spend my time researching this stuff. i just go on what i see in day to day life. unemployment may look like its lower than 10 years ago but what about all the people who don't get counted? who knows what the numbers would be like if an accurate count was taken.

                                                                                                    all i know is i don't see people spending like they used to. this is a pointless discussion though because people will never be able to lose their bias towards whatever party they feel is 'right'.
                                                                                                    you are very right and your not going to change anyones mind on either side.

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