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  • pussyluver
    Clueless OleMan
    • Mar 2003
    • 11009

    #1

    President Bush 'assassinated' in new TV docudrama

    Channel 4 Britain

    http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/a...ama/article.do

    Don't care what you think of Bush, this is low class and dangerous. This type of docudrama pushes the acceptability of such an action in the wrong direction. There will be another ELECTION in the US and BUSH will not be able to run.
  • mrprezident
    Registered User
    • Sep 2006
    • 11

    #2
    it does seem like we are living in a movie right now...
    what is going to happen next???
    www.ifiwereprezident.com
    No Republicans
    No Democrats
    Just one simple question...
    what would YOU do?

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    • DJ Slave to Classic Rock
      So Fucking Banned
      • Aug 2006
      • 317

      #3
      this is a very thinking idea to me.

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      • Splum
        Confirmed User
        • May 2003
        • 6195

        #4
        Originally posted by DJ Slave to Classic Rock
        this is a very thinking idea to me.
        Oh please please explain yourself for the federal agents reading GFY lol.

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        • scottybuzz
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • May 2006
          • 14799

          #5
          Originally posted by pussyluver
          Channel 4 Britain

          http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/a...ama/article.do

          Don't care what you think of Bush, this is low class and dangerous. This type of docudrama pushes the acceptability of such an action in the wrong direction. There will be another ELECTION in the US and BUSH will not be able to run.
          fucking hell not you aswell. its tv, how fucking much shit is there on tv about blowing up presidents,
          look at 24 for fuck sake.

          his plane got shot down in 4 the ex president was assinated in 5 and there have been numerous attempts.

          its fucking drama deal with. I think the people who want to do it wont be persuaded by some bullshit program.
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          • notabook
            Confirmed User
            • Apr 2006
            • 9748

            #6
            Low class and dangerous? What the FUCK? How is it dangerous, or low class for that matter? Jesus fucking christ what is wrong with pussies these days. How many novels (yes, I don?t read books/novels but some of you fucks do) out there discuss presidential assassinations as a method to reformation; how many times are these assassinations carried out? Hell, or even attempted assassinations?

            How many people have played GTA and actually ran over people on purpose as direct response from playing that game? I?m willing to wager I could count the number on one hand. This kind of talk, that this kind of documentary is ?dangerous?, is usually coming from the same kind of people who claim that pornography makes honest, good, hard working men into cold blooded rapists and child abusers. It?s retarded to call this piece ?Low Class and Dangerous?.

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            • Webby
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Oct 2002
              • 14956

              #7
              Oddly.. the only people so far to make any comment on that article are from the US.

              Seriously doubt anyone else gives a shit.
              XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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              • minusonebit
                So Fucking Banned
                • Feb 2006
                • 7391

                #8
                For once, I hope someone tries to act out what they see on TV.

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                • Lykos
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Apr 2003
                  • 31027

                  #9
                  Bush is an idiot.....

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                  • GatorB
                    The Demon & 12clicks
                    • Oct 2001
                    • 18208

                    #10
                    Originally posted by pussyluver
                    Channel 4 Britain

                    http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/a...ama/article.do

                    Don't care what you think of Bush, this is low class and dangerous. This type of docudrama pushes the acceptability of such an action in the wrong direction. There will be another ELECTION in the US and BUSH will not be able to run.
                    How is it low class? If you are wanting to make something "real" why use a fake "Mr Jones" as preisdent. We all know out the real President's name is Bush. That's why all these movies and shows with fake Presidents are stupid to me. I KNOW this dude isn't REALLY the President. why not just make a show about the "president" of Wal-Mart or something.

                    I guess if they made a movie about the Lincoln assisination they should change his name to "Abe Smith" instead.

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                    • Ace_luffy
                      www.creationcrew.com
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 12170

                      #11
                      i hope it would be true


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                      • Webby
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 14956

                        #12
                        Damned if I remember the title...

                        Who wrote a book (fiction) about an ex-US president who lost his immunity when leaving office and had to keep flying around the globe to avoid capture by international agencies for crimes??

                        Whoever the author was, - amazing what he saw in his crystal ball. Fact can turn stranger than fiction
                        XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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                        • pussyluver
                          Clueless OleMan
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 11009

                          #13
                          Originally posted by notabook
                          Low class and dangerous? What the FUCK? How is it dangerous, or low class for that matter? Jesus fucking christ what is wrong with pussies these days. How many novels (yes, I don?t read books/novels but some of you fucks do) out there discuss presidential assassinations as a method to reformation; how many times are these assassinations carried out? Hell, or even attempted assassinations?

                          How many people have played GTA and actually ran over people on purpose as direct response from playing that game? I?m willing to wager I could count the number on one hand. This kind of talk, that this kind of documentary is ?dangerous?, is usually coming from the same kind of people who claim that pornography makes honest, good, hard working men into cold blooded rapists and child abusers. It?s retarded to call this piece ?Low Class and Dangerous?.
                          Clearly novels, movies and documentaries peppered with a little fiction to make a point or spark interest has motivated some to do stupid things. A fictional novel or movie is one thing, placing the face of a sitting president comes dangerously close to an actual threat. In other-words, calling someone to action.

                          The fact that people do stupid things that were motivated by other events or a fiction movie is the price we pay for free expression. Placing the actual face of a real president could be argued that the producers are crossing the line!

                          What's the next step? political opponents calling for assassinations so they can gain power? At some point a line must be drawn or chaos evolves and and our society fails along with the precious few freedoms we are still able to enjoy.

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                          • Damian_Maxcash
                            So Fucking Banned
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 12745

                            #14
                            Originally posted by pussyluver
                            Channel 4 Britain

                            http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/a...ama/article.do

                            Don't care what you think of Bush, this is low class and dangerous. This type of docudrama pushes the acceptability of such an action in the wrong direction. There will be another ELECTION in the US and BUSH will not be able to run.
                            You do have a brain and you are able to form opinions of your own?

                            It may suprise you to learn that you are not the only one.

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                            • pussyluver
                              Clueless OleMan
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 11009

                              #15
                              Originally posted by minusonebit
                              For once, I hope someone tries to act out what they see on TV.

                              And the result of your hope? A free America? I suspect that we would be living in yet more of a police state.

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                              • fallenmuffin
                                Confirmed User
                                • Nov 2005
                                • 8170

                                #16
                                It's 2006, we've seen it all. Someone explodes in front of you on the street.. are you really goning to care? Or simply shake your head and keep on walking whispering under your breath "so fake" lol. We're detached by generation after generation trying to out do each other in shock factor.

                                No one really cares .. I've "assassinated" bush a million times in flash games and flash movies. Lol, where's your thread regarding those. Oh, because it wasn't on Channel 4 sponsored by Stella. Instead it was broadcast online to millions upon millions.

                                To summarize no one gives a shit.. have a great day.
                                Last edited by fallenmuffin; 09-08-2006, 08:01 PM.

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                                • Damian_Maxcash
                                  So Fucking Banned
                                  • Oct 2002
                                  • 12745

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by pussyluver
                                  And the result of your hope? A free America? I suspect that we would be living in yet more of a police state.

                                  lol - it must have been a a really good docu-drama.

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                                  • pussyluver
                                    Clueless OleMan
                                    • Mar 2003
                                    • 11009

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by minusonebit
                                    For once, I hope someone tries to act out what they see on TV.
                                    Those of you that hope and pray for this action need to really think about the end result. There are other legal ways to remove a president. Advocating someones murder is serious stuff. Now if an attempt is made, you could be considered a suspect.

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                                    • Splum
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • May 2003
                                      • 6195

                                      #19
                                      http://www.lectlaw.com/def2/t028.htm

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                                      • pussyluver
                                        Clueless OleMan
                                        • Mar 2003
                                        • 11009

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by fallenmuffin
                                        It's 2006, we've seen it all. Someone explodes in front of you on the street.. are you really goning to care? Or simply shake your head and keep on walking whispering under your breath "so fake" lol. We're detached by generation after generation trying to out do each other in shock factor.

                                        No one really cares .. I've "assassinated" bush a million times in flash games and flash movies. Lol, where's your thread regarding those. Oh, because it wasn't on Channel 4 sponsored by Stella. Instead it was broadcast online to millions upon millions.

                                        To summarize no one gives a shit.. have a great day.
                                        The flash games are no better. They tend to make taking the action for real more acceptable. We are free to make games and docu-dramas. If there is no exercise of self control, the society will self destruct. People willingly blowing them selves up for some miss-guided cause is a simple example. Look how anesthetized you've come to it.

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                                        • clip4free
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Nov 2005
                                          • 852

                                          #21
                                          i say, if its on TV, then its real...

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                                          • pussyluver
                                            Clueless OleMan
                                            • Mar 2003
                                            • 11009

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Splum
                                            THREATS AGAINST PRESIDENT - 18 USC 871, makes it a Federal crime or offense for anyone to willfully make a true threat to injure or kill the President of the United States.

                                            A person can be found guilty of that offense only if all of the following facts are proved beyond a reasonable doubt:

                                            First: That the person uttered words alleged to be the threat against the President;

                                            Second: That the person understood and meant the words he used as a true threat; and

                                            Third: That the person uttered the words knowingly and willfully.

                                            A "threat" is a statement expressing an intention to kill or injure the President; and a "true threat" means a serious threat as distinguished from words used as mere political argument, idle or careless talk, or something said in a joking manner.

                                            The essence of the offense is the knowing and willful making of a true threat. So, if it is proved beyond a reasonable doubt that the person knowingly made a true threat against the President, willfully intending that it be understood by others as a serious threat, then the offense is complete; it is not necessary to prove that the person actually intended to carry out the threat.

                                            ---

                                            So is the making of this docu-drama fall under the above. Some could argue that it does. To be fair, I must see the piece first and then draw the conclusion for myself. Then it is to late. My biggest point is not that the government should sensor every piece of controversial presentation, but that our society needs to exercise self control

                                            Just as sponsors should refrain from shaving and webmasters should refrain from traps and hijacks etc. A little self control goes a long way. If every TGP ended in a trap, surfers would be less likely to click.

                                            It is time for 12clicks to take over this discussion.... I usually argue for the return of our bill of rights and more freedom, not less.

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                                            • notabook
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Apr 2006
                                              • 9748

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by pussyluver
                                              Clearly novels, movies and documentaries peppered with a little fiction to make a point or spark interest has motivated some to do stupid things. A fictional novel or movie is one thing, placing the face of a sitting president comes dangerously close to an actual threat. In other-words, calling someone to action.

                                              The fact that people do stupid things that were motivated by other events or a fiction movie is the price we pay for free expression. Placing the actual face of a real president could be argued that the producers are crossing the line!

                                              What's the next step? political opponents calling for assassinations so they can gain power? At some point a line must be drawn or chaos evolves and and our society fails along with the precious few freedoms we are still able to enjoy.
                                              Your post is almost as pointless as non-alcoholic beer. This is far from crossing the line and if you think people are going to take action because just because the face of President Bush has been superimposed over the person in question, then you are no better than those fucktards who claim that pornography turns men into monsters.

                                              Remember when the movie Contact came out? It had footage of President Clinton in it setup in such a way to make it seem like he was confirming the existence of extraterrestrial life. The first thing I did was wrote Clinton everyday, demanding him to send bibles to our new alien friends so they too could share in the love of God. I?m super cereal, I did. I wrote him seven thousand times. Ok maybe I didn?t.

                                              ?How in the fuck does this compare to someone assassinating Bush??

                                              Imagine if people were so retarded that they thought the footage in Contact were real (as in Bill Clinton seemingly affirming the existence of extraterrestrial life). Can you imagine the number of letters Clinton would have received from the Christian Right? Can you imagine how many DEADLY PAPER CUTS he could have received?

                                              Thankfully most human beings simply aren?t that retarded and they take things for what they are. You have the occasional nutjob that goes overboard, but you?ll have those happen regardless of whatever circumstance you put them in. Rapists don?t become rapists because they watch too much porn ? they are rapists because they are rapists.

                                              Those who assassinate people don?t become assassins because they watch violent movies or dramamentaries depicting assassinations ? they are assassins because THEY ARE ASSASSINS. Saying that this dramamentary will magically turn people into crazed assassins (or push some over the edge) is just ludicrous. Oh yeah, I like cheesepie.

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                                              • GatorB
                                                The Demon & 12clicks
                                                • Oct 2001
                                                • 18208

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by pussyluver
                                                THREATS AGAINST PRESIDENT - 18 USC 871, makes it a Federal crime or offense for anyone to willfully make a true threat to injure or kill the President of the United States.

                                                A person can be found guilty of that offense only if all of the following facts are proved beyond a reasonable doubt:

                                                First: That the person uttered words alleged to be the threat against the President;

                                                Second: That the person understood and meant the words he used as a true threat; and

                                                Third: That the person uttered the words knowingly and willfully.

                                                A "threat" is a statement expressing an intention to kill or injure the President; and a "true threat" means a serious threat as distinguished from words used as mere political argument, idle or careless talk, or something said in a joking manner.

                                                The essence of the offense is the knowing and willful making of a true threat. So, if it is proved beyond a reasonable doubt that the person knowingly made a true threat against the President, willfully intending that it be understood by others as a serious threat, then the offense is complete; it is not necessary to prove that the person actually intended to carry out the threat.

                                                ---

                                                So is the making of this docu-drama fall under the above. Some could argue that it does. To be fair, I must see the piece first and then draw the conclusion for myself. Then it is to late. My biggest point is not that the government should sensor every piece of controversial presentation, but that our society needs to exercise self control

                                                Just as sponsors should refrain from shaving and webmasters should refrain from traps and hijacks etc. A little self control goes a long way. If every TGP ended in a trap, surfers would be less likely to click.

                                                It is time for 12clicks to take over this discussion.... I usually argue for the return of our bill of rights and more freedom, not less.
                                                A) the docudrama does not ADVOCATE the killing of Bush

                                                B) It's made in the UK for non-American audiences so where does American law even apply?

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                                                • Damian_Maxcash
                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                  • 12745

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by notabook
                                                  Your post is almost as pointless as non-alcoholic beer. This is far from crossing the line and if you think people are going to take action because just because the face of President Bush has been superimposed over the person in question, then you are no better than those fucktards who claim that pornography turns men into monsters.

                                                  Remember when the movie Contact came out? It had footage of President Clinton in it setup in such a way to make it seem like he was confirming the existence of extraterrestrial life. The first thing I did was wrote Clinton everyday, demanding him to send bibles to our new alien friends so they too could share in the love of God. I?m super cereal, I did. I wrote him seven thousand times. Ok maybe I didn?t.

                                                  ?How in the fuck does this compare to someone assassinating Bush??

                                                  Imagine if people were so retarded that they thought the footage in Contact were real (as in Bill Clinton seemingly affirming the existence of extraterrestrial life). Can you imagine the number of letters Clinton would have received from the Christian Right? Can you imagine how many DEADLY PAPER CUTS he could have received?

                                                  Thankfully most human beings simply aren?t that retarded and they take things for what they are. You have the occasional nutjob that goes overboard, but you?ll have those happen regardless of whatever circumstance you put them in. Rapists don?t become rapists because they watch too much porn ? they are rapists because they are rapists.

                                                  Those who assassinate people don?t become assassins because they watch violent movies or dramamentaries depicting assassinations ? they are assassins because THEY ARE ASSASSINS. Saying that this dramamentary will magically turn people into crazed assassins (or push some over the edge) is just ludicrous. Oh yeah, I like cheesepie.

                                                  You lost me somewhere around "non-alcholic beer" - dont be so fucking stupid. Why would someone invent such a thing?

                                                  Seriously, just because we have to even debate this issue IS THE REASON we have to show the film.

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                                                  • notabook
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Apr 2006
                                                    • 9748

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by GatorB
                                                    B) It's made in the UK for non-American audiences so where does American law even apply?
                                                    American Law is GOD'S law. And that?s why it applies everywhere in the universe. Even Mars.

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                                                    • notabook
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Apr 2006
                                                      • 9748

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by damian2001
                                                      Seriously, just because we have to even debate this issue IS THE REASON we have to show the film.
                                                      Debating is good! Masturbation is better.

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                                                      • Damian_Maxcash
                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                        • Oct 2002
                                                        • 12745

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by notabook
                                                        Debating is good! Masturbation is better.
                                                        I cant argue with that.

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                                                        • Splum
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • May 2003
                                                          • 6195

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by notabook
                                                          American Law is GOD'S law. And that?s why it applies everywhere in the universe. Even Mars.
                                                          American law applies to this bulletin board.

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                                                          • Damian_Maxcash
                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                            • Oct 2002
                                                            • 12745

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Splum
                                                            American law applies to this bulletin board.
                                                            Interesting point - complete bollocks, but interesting.

                                                            American law applies to the owners of the board - not the particicpants.

                                                            The internet has opened a whole can of worms.

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                                                            • Joe Citizen
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Oct 2003
                                                              • 4552

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Splum
                                                              American law applies to this bulletin board.
                                                              But only to those who reside in America. Your laws only apply within your borders. Outside your borders your laws mean shit.

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                                                              • Webby
                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                • Oct 2002
                                                                • 14956

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by pussyluver
                                                                THREATS AGAINST PRESIDENT - 18 USC 871, makes it a Federal crime or offense for anyone to willfully make a true threat to injure or kill the President of the United States.

                                                                A person can be found guilty of that offense only if all of the following facts are proved beyond a reasonable doubt:

                                                                First: That the person uttered words alleged to be the threat against the President;

                                                                Second: That the person understood and meant the words he used as a true threat; and

                                                                Third: That the person uttered the words knowingly and willfully.

                                                                A "threat" is a statement expressing an intention to kill or injure the President; and a "true threat" means a serious threat as distinguished from words used as mere political argument, idle or careless talk, or something said in a joking manner.

                                                                The essence of the offense is the knowing and willful making of a true threat. So, if it is proved beyond a reasonable doubt that the person knowingly made a true threat against the President, willfully intending that it be understood by others as a serious threat, then the offense is complete; it is not necessary to prove that the person actually intended to carry out the threat.

                                                                ---

                                                                So is the making of this docu-drama fall under the above. Some could argue that it does. To be fair, I must see the piece first and then draw the conclusion for myself. Then it is to late. My biggest point is not that the government should sensor every piece of controversial presentation, but that our society needs to exercise self control
                                                                Why is the President entitled to more consideration under US law than anyone else? Laws already exist for the protection of all folks, tho assume this is supposed to stop US presidents being shot.

                                                                The TV program in question does not fall under US law and doubt the producers gave second thought to US law. It is worth noting that many TV programs (not necessarily as "topical") are rarely distributed to the US market - it's not a market which likes to have issues questioned.

                                                                BTW.. One notable documentary (also happened to be produced by Channel 4) was transmitted by a TV station near New York several years back and was then praised with awards in the US. (The subject was East Timor re attrocities committed by Suharto's govt with funding and support from the US)

                                                                Channel 4 has a reputation for producing high quality documentary material and using the cream of journalism in the production of this material. Sometimes issues arise where governments may not like the truth - and, sure, this happened in the UK where production offices were bugged by security services and that resulted in the resignation of govt ministers, tho these instances are rare. A production team such as those attached Channel 4 would certainly not exist in the US as it is now.
                                                                XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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                                                                • pussyluver
                                                                  Clueless OleMan
                                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                                  • 11009

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Joe Citizen
                                                                  But only to those who reside in America. Your laws only apply within your borders. Outside your borders your laws mean shit.
                                                                  Since when?? Tell that to the Attorney General or any of the presidents.

                                                                  Just look at the arguments for going to war with Iraq.

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                                                                  • pussyluver
                                                                    Clueless OleMan
                                                                    • Mar 2003
                                                                    • 11009

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Webby
                                                                    Why is the President entitled to more consideration under US law than anyone else? Laws already exist for the protection of all folks, tho assume this is supposed to stop US presidents being shot.

                                                                    The TV program in question does not fall under US law and doubt the producers gave second thought to US law. It is worth noting that many TV programs (not necessarily as "topical") are rarely distributed to the US market - it's not a market which likes to have issues questioned.

                                                                    BTW.. One notable documentary (also happened to be produced by Channel 4) was transmitted by a TV station near New York several years back and was then praised with awards in the US. (The subject was East Timor re attrocities committed by Suharto's govt with funding and support from the US)

                                                                    Channel 4 has a reputation for producing high quality documentary material and using the cream of journalism in the production of this material. Sometimes issues arise where governments may not like the truth - and, sure, this happened in the UK where production offices were bugged by security services and that resulted in the resignation of govt ministers, tho these instances are rare. A production team such as those attached Channel 4 would certainly not exist in the US as it is now.
                                                                    Point is he is as commander and chief etc.

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                                                                    • Webby
                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                                      • 14956

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Joe Citizen
                                                                      But only to those who reside in America. Your laws only apply within your borders. Outside your borders your laws mean shit.


                                                                      That's the nice way of putting it
                                                                      XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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                                                                      • Webby
                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                        • Oct 2002
                                                                        • 14956

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by pussyluver
                                                                        Point is he is as commander and chief etc.
                                                                        So he needs two sets of laws??? Duh??
                                                                        XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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                                                                        • pussyluver
                                                                          Clueless OleMan
                                                                          • Mar 2003
                                                                          • 11009

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by notabook
                                                                          Your post is almost as pointless as non-alcoholic beer. This is far from crossing the line and if you think people are going to take action because just because the face of President Bush has been superimposed over the person in question, then you are no better than those fucktards who claim that pornography turns men into monsters.

                                                                          Remember when the movie Contact came out? It had footage of President Clinton in it setup in such a way to make it seem like he was confirming the existence of extraterrestrial life. The first thing I did was wrote Clinton everyday, demanding him to send bibles to our new alien friends so they too could share in the love of God. I?m super cereal, I did. I wrote him seven thousand times. Ok maybe I didn?t.

                                                                          ?How in the fuck does this compare to someone assassinating Bush??

                                                                          Imagine if people were so retarded that they thought the footage in Contact were real (as in Bill Clinton seemingly affirming the existence of extraterrestrial life). Can you imagine the number of letters Clinton would have received from the Christian Right? Can you imagine how many DEADLY PAPER CUTS he could have received?

                                                                          Thankfully most human beings simply aren?t that retarded and they take things for what they are. You have the occasional nutjob that goes overboard, but you?ll have those happen regardless of whatever circumstance you put them in. Rapists don?t become rapists because they watch too much porn ? they are rapists because they are rapists.

                                                                          Those who assassinate people don?t become assassins because they watch violent movies or dramamentaries depicting assassinations ? they are assassins because THEY ARE ASSASSINS. Saying that this dramamentary will magically turn people into crazed assassins (or push some over the edge) is just ludicrous. Oh yeah, I like cheesepie.
                                                                          Man you sure write a lot with a nick of notabook. We got a fucking book going here. Let's just publish the thread and collect the royalties.


                                                                          Disagree on the red.

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                                                                          • Damian_Maxcash
                                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                                            • Oct 2002
                                                                            • 12745

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by pussyluver
                                                                            Since when?? Tell that to the Attorney General or any of the presidents.

                                                                            Just look at the arguments for going to war with Iraq.
                                                                            You dont actually believe that do you?

                                                                            Every country had its own reasons for going in. Some reasons are better than others - the UK seems to think it owes some sort of debt to the US.

                                                                            Most countries are playing the US like a game of chess, but you have Bush making your moves. You cant win.

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                                                                            • Joe Citizen
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Oct 2003
                                                                              • 4552

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by pussyluver
                                                                              Since when?? Tell that to the Attorney General or any of the presidents.

                                                                              Just look at the arguments for going to war with Iraq.
                                                                              What the hell are you babbling about?

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                                                                              • pussyluver
                                                                                Clueless OleMan
                                                                                • Mar 2003
                                                                                • 11009

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by Webby
                                                                                So he needs two sets of laws??? Duh??
                                                                                Well yes. Why do bees protect the queen. The president was elected by the people to be "King" of the United States. Can't loose your King now can you.....

                                                                                As you ponder all, the next in-line of succession is Chenny. He'll be in bunker 1. Not sure, but think he could make Bush look like a pussy cat.

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                                                                                • Webby
                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                                  • 14956

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Another odd, but interesting "feature"....

                                                                                  In any real democracy, it is very usual for a leader to waive rights of immunity from prosecution to make it clear that their conduct is within the law and they have nothing to fear under whatever justice system.

                                                                                  The vast majority (at least in western countries - and several others), also have no problem ratifying treaties where elements within those treaties can open up the possibility of prosecution internationally for whatever crimes committed by leaders while in office.

                                                                                  Both these elements are notably missing from the "world's greatest democracy".
                                                                                  XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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                                                                                  • Splum
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • May 2003
                                                                                    • 6195

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by damian2001
                                                                                    Interesting point - complete bollocks, but interesting.
                                                                                    American law applies to the owners of the board - not the particicpants.
                                                                                    The internet has opened a whole can of worms.
                                                                                    And you dont think the owners of this board wouldnt cooperate with the USA Secret Service if asked to check out a possible threat against a sitting Presidents life?
                                                                                    Even if you are not American and you travel to the United States you are subject to our laws.

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                                                                                    • Joe Citizen
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Oct 2003
                                                                                      • 4552

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by Splum
                                                                                      Even if you are not American and you travel to the United States you are subject to our laws.
                                                                                      Yes, but if you are not American and you don't travel to the US, your laws mean shit. Actually, they mean less than that.

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                                                                                      • pussyluver
                                                                                        Clueless OleMan
                                                                                        • Mar 2003
                                                                                        • 11009

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by Joe Citizen
                                                                                        What the hell are you babbling about?
                                                                                        I don't babble unless I'm drinking. Sober tonight. Bush babbles, most politicians do.

                                                                                        Point I was trying to make is that the US does indeed try to impose it's laws outside the boarders. There are to many examples to list. Drug enforcement comes to mind.

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                                                                                        • Webby
                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                          • Oct 2002
                                                                                          • 14956

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by pussyluver
                                                                                          Well yes. Why do bees protect the queen. The president was elected by the people to be "King" of the United States. Can't loose your King now can you.....

                                                                                          As you ponder all, the next in-line of succession is Chenny. He'll be in bunker 1. Not sure, but think he could make Bush look like a pussy cat.
                                                                                          A duplicate law is not offering any "protection" to anyone.

                                                                                          Cheney.. hell, since neither Bush or Cheney have bestowed massive benefits on folks in the US, - what difference? Sadly the US has got the people they elected - and God's blessing sure is needed.
                                                                                          XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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                                                                                          • BusterBunny
                                                                                            perverted justice decoy
                                                                                            • Aug 2005
                                                                                            • 19291

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            behold the surprise ending..........

                                                                                            my sig caught gonoherpasyphilaids and died

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                                                                                            • tungsten
                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                              • Mar 2004
                                                                                              • 10579

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              bushs an idiot but this is wrong
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                                                                                              • pussyluver
                                                                                                Clueless OleMan
                                                                                                • Mar 2003
                                                                                                • 11009

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by Joe Citizen
                                                                                                Yes, but if you are not American and you don't travel to the US, your laws mean shit. Actually, they mean less than that.
                                                                                                The FBI has offices and agents (they're all special) in dozens of countries. We also have CIA agents and secret prisons.

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                                                                                                • notabook
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Apr 2006
                                                                                                  • 9748

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by pussyluver
                                                                                                  Man you sure write a lot with a nick of notabook. We got a fucking book going here. Let's just publish the thread and collect the royalties.


                                                                                                  Disagree on the red.

                                                                                                  I could never collect royalties on said book, as books are for fags. At least we agree on one thing: Miracle whip makes for one tasty turkey sandwich!

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                                                                                                  • Webby
                                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                                                                    • 14956

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by pussyluver
                                                                                                    Point I was trying to make is that the US does indeed try to impose it's laws outside the boarders. There are to many examples to list. Drug enforcement comes to mind.
                                                                                                    US drug laws are not enforced or valid in any other nation.

                                                                                                    Sure.. there is cooperation between nations on this - same as with serious crime (murder), child abuse etc, - but US law means nothing elsewhere.
                                                                                                    XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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