Saying "NO" to a person responsible for a HUGE amount of your income???

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  • wtfent
    Confirmed User
    • Nov 2003
    • 3790

    #1

    Saying "NO" to a person responsible for a HUGE amount of your income???

    Ok so lets say an affiliate, business partner, etc... was responsible for 20-40% of your monthly income and if they left so would the money... how hard is it for you to say NO to this person compared to saying no to just a nobody.

    This is just an example but what if you were at a convention an affiliate that made 30% or so of your income was like hey man go get me a pack of cigs and just walks all over you. How much of it can you take, some people have huge egos and would throw all that money down the drain just too be cool but then some will just sit there and be takin full advatge of.

    How would you handle saying NO to an important business relationship????
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  • Dirty F
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    • Jul 2001
    • 59204

    #2
    Yes i would.

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    • JD
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      • Sep 2003
      • 22651

      #3
      I'd tell him to stuff those sales up his ass. If you lose 40% so does he

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      • Klen
        • Aug 2006
        • 32234

        #4
        I realy dont have idea.

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        • wtfent
          Confirmed User
          • Nov 2003
          • 3790

          #5
          Originally posted by SPeRMiNaToR
          I'd tell him to stuff those sales up his ass. If you lose 40% so does he
          What my 40% loss, is only a 5% loss for him compared to what he makes? Who is on top?
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          • madawgz
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            • Mar 2006
            • 30509

            #6
            wow that sucks, but i would always be nice...

            but if they start really taking advantage of you, fuck that
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            • Rui
              web
              • Dec 2001
              • 9533

              #7
              GFY is the living proof that most would almost eat up their ass...money talks...bullshit FLYSSSSSS
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              • E$_manager
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Apr 2006
                • 13557

                #8
                I often try to thnk what will happen if i wouldn't say no. If the situation will be worse or at least will be inbareable i sa "no".
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                • Crazy Carlos
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 699

                  #9
                  i would do a lot but nothing that is turning me into some ones slave or anything. You need each other in this biz so you beter respect each other.

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                  • Antonio
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Oct 2001
                    • 14136

                    #10
                    say no to what???

                    what does it want, it makes a huge difference, its in your interest to keep a healthy relationship with that affiliate but if he wants to drop a nice load of jizz on your face, yeah, just go ahead and say no

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                    • JD
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 22651

                      #11
                      Originally posted by wtfent
                      What my 40% loss, is only a 5% loss for him compared to what he makes? Who is on top?
                      if 40% of your income is only 5% of his....you need to work on your self promotion a whooooooooooole bunch more

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                      • WiredGuy
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                        • Aug 2002
                        • 34515

                        #12
                        Avoid that affiliate at shows then. If they want to be arrogant about it, avoid them.
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                        • E$_manager
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                          • Apr 2006
                          • 13557

                          #13
                          may be there is some way to make that person depend on you as well?
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                          • scottybuzz
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                            • May 2006
                            • 14799

                            #14
                            Originally posted by SPeRMiNaToR
                            I'd tell him to stuff those sales up his ass. If you lose 40% so does he
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                            • SirMoby
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 583

                              #15
                              That's up to you. I might get the pack of smokes once and if it was on my way for a 2nd maybe. After that I'd say "no". I've known rude people that just don't know how to act and they may not be trying to walk on you so I'd allow a slip.

                              If they're just being shitty, I'd find other affiliates.

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                              • Z
                                Vidi Vici Veni
                                • Nov 2002
                                • 6308

                                #16
                                People are reliably going to be people. Business is always...business.

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                                • Viper2K1
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Aug 2001
                                  • 1006

                                  #17
                                  If you get in that kind of situation, that means you're doing something wrong.
                                  When people even try that shit on you, then you probably showed you're less than them by the way you act or talk...

                                  Anyway, if i were in such situation I'd probably make a joke about it, but wont do it or put up with it.

                                  He wont go elsewhere just because of that
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                                  • scardog
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Aug 2004
                                    • 886

                                    #18
                                    I am responsible for a large percentage of my wife's income, yet she can say no with ease. ;)

                                    If he is disrespecting you, then no amount of money is worth that. It will cause you to accept that view of yourself. It will be work to replace him, but if you have a good product, then it can be done, right? Is he sending you business out of charity? No, it is mutually beneficial. A good rule is to not do business with people that don't respect you.

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                                    • Trixxxia
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Aug 2004
                                      • 5600

                                      #19
                                      Thankfully, I've never been faced with this situation. I'm all about going above and beyond the call of duty - however, that would include anything within my power that I can do/get for him within reason and in regards to 'work'. Getting a pack of cigarettes for them wouldn't be a problem if I was on my way there, passing, going for myself or simply because the person is in deep discussion and asks politely if I'd go for them. It's all about the rapport between the two people. Often times, it's not what you say but how you say it.

                                      Luckily - I've never had this problem with my affiliates. I'm 'blessed' in more ways than one with my affiliates.

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                                      • MaddCaz
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                                        • Mar 2006
                                        • 9483

                                        #20
                                        just be tactful about it.

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                                        • Doctor Dre
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                                          • Jan 2001
                                          • 51692

                                          #21
                                          Well I'm sure you can stand somebody beeing an asshole at one convention or two... it's not like you have them non stop.

                                          But there is a limit to dissrespect.
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                                          • Gillespie
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                                            • Aug 2006
                                            • 1391

                                            #22
                                            How can one single affiliate control 40% of your revenue? That's got a warning sign written all over it man...
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                                            • Beaver Bob
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                                              • Aug 2005
                                              • 1099

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Gillespie
                                              How can one single affiliate control 40% of your revenue? That's got a warning sign written all over it man...
                                              indeed. if one affiliate is making you that big a percentage of your money, you need to be worrying about getting more good affiliates
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                                              • RayVega
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                                                • Jul 2004
                                                • 4212

                                                #24
                                                Some advice given to me by a finance giant:
                                                there are two types of people. farmers and hunters. hunters know that each day they can come back empty handed, but they also know that if they do, they catch em tomorrow. farmers have security that there is a nice harvest and a long lasting safty net. But if the harvest fails, they are fucked for the winter, they don't have the skills of the hunter.

                                                be a hunter. you can get another 30% guy. tell him to get his own cigarettes. A true hunter will respect you more, I would.
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                                                • nAtuRaLbEautY
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                                                  • May 2006
                                                  • 6107

                                                  #25
                                                  final decision on that matter stil depends on you...
                                                  on what you value more, money or respect
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                                                  • detoxed
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                                                    • Jan 2003
                                                    • 17798

                                                    #26
                                                    When he asks for shit like that ignore him, tell him to buy his own godddamn cigarrettes and quit being a cheapass. Tell him you know he can afford the shit

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                                                    • msan
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Jun 2006
                                                      • 1336

                                                      #27
                                                      Hmmm...how about avoiding meeting up with the person in conventions or something.
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                                                      • Why
                                                        MFBA
                                                        • Mar 2003
                                                        • 7230

                                                        #28
                                                        affiliates are always asking for shit,

                                                        give them an inch, they will take a foot.

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                                                        • Due
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Mar 2001
                                                          • 3620

                                                          #29
                                                          I would ask a waiter to bring me a pack of cigs or whatever he wanted.
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                                                          • Drake
                                                            Hello world!
                                                            • Mar 2003
                                                            • 12508

                                                            #30
                                                            Business is business. Personals is personal. Try not to let the world's cross each other. Just avoid the person. That you way you keep making money together.

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                                                            • scottybuzz
                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                              • May 2006
                                                              • 14799

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by RayVega
                                                              Some advice given to me by a finance giant:
                                                              there are two types of people. farmers and hunters. hunters know that each day they can come back empty handed, but they also know that if they do, they catch em tomorrow. farmers have security that there is a nice harvest and a long lasting safty net. But if the harvest fails, they are fucked for the winter, they don't have the skills of the hunter.

                                                              be a hunter. you can get another 30% guy. tell him to get his own cigarettes. A true hunter will respect you more, I would.
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                                                              • Brujah
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                                                                • Jan 2001
                                                                • 22157

                                                                #32
                                                                Bring someone along with you to do the fetching for massah instead.

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                                                                • Lykos
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                                                                  • Apr 2003
                                                                  • 31027

                                                                  #33
                                                                  I wouldn't do that ever!
                                                                  And i think those ppl don't have respect and i hate that!

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                                                                  • free4porn
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                                                                    • Jun 2005
                                                                    • 4654

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Take some cheap cigars
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                                                                    • Dirty Dane
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                                                                      • Feb 2004
                                                                      • 9491

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Dont put all eggs in on basket

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                                                                      • Monstaman
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                                                                        • Jul 2004
                                                                        • 1021

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by madawgz
                                                                        wow that sucks, but i would always be nice...

                                                                        but if they start really taking advantage of you, fuck that
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                                                                        • E$_manager
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                                                                          • Apr 2006
                                                                          • 13557

                                                                          #37
                                                                          be strickt with the person you are dealing with, don't be personal with him.
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                                                                          • IWantU_Jeff
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                                                                            • Nov 2005
                                                                            • 2092

                                                                            #38
                                                                            People only walk over you if you let them.
                                                                            It would also depend on how you told him "no" too I think. If your straight about thing I think it would usually be ok.
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                                                                            • swedguy
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Jan 2002
                                                                              • 7981

                                                                              #39
                                                                              I'd tell him that smoking kills and hand him a bottle of water.

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