Reak, ever had sex without paying?

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The call of the Knight in Shining Armor has been heard: "Save the prostitutes! From colonialist sex tourists, and themselves! Don't worry fair maiden, I'll save you!"

Ethics, philosophy, and all other forms of acadmic rhetoric aside, the main argument here is the supposed injustice of prostitution that favors the John, not the prostitute:

Since I have spent a fair bit of time in the prostitution capital of the world, and have had thousands of conversations with all kinds of prostitutes, allow me to share my personal thoughts (since I feel some people in this thread may have never SEEN a real life prostitute, let alone talked to or fucked one).......

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- you're abusing the other person's mental status and situation (especially in third world countries)

while it may be said that the social class of many prostitutes (i.e. situation) may be far lower on the scale than that of their Johns, that alone cannot be considered abuse. do you consider paying your gardener to mow your lawn abuse? is the kid who shines shoes at the train station a VICTIM?

and how about mental status (i'm going to completely ignore the fact you think all hookers are stupid, let alone mentally retarded) do you consider ordering burgers from the retarded kid at McDonald's "abuse"? maybe it's not retardation you're thinking - maybe they are psychologically damaged from a childhood of molestation and alcoholism? SO ARE THE REST OF US.

"especially in third world countries"? you high-handed, elitist, eurocentric, "first-world" fuck! the truth is, only 10% of "third world" prositutes work with foreigners. 90% of the market is DOMESTIC. Thais fucking Thais. Filipios fucking Filipinas. Texans fucking cows. You get the point.

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"The prostitute is not able to oversee the results of her action at that very moment and is misled by temporary cravings or the routine in it all"

I think plenty has been said here already about free will and the ability (and responsibility) of every person to make their own choices, regardless of whether or not they see the consequences. Plus you have a logical defect in your argument: if there is a 'routine in it all' - meaning she's been here before, many times - then how could "that very moment" be any different than the ones before?

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"misled by temporary cravings"? hahahahahahahaha! the john is THAT fucking hot that she can't say no?!

or maybe you were being serious, and you were talking about the craving to EAT. or PAY RENT. or fulfill any of the other obligations set out by Maslow in his hierarchy of needs? in this case we'd have to stop giving money to all the people out there scraping up enough cash to make ends meet. would you rather she shovel shit? dig in trash cans for aluminum recyclables? trust me, those options occurred to her, and she chose - read it again - CHOSE to sell her body.

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"while the buyer is in the better position"

anybody here who has ever been with a prostitute will know - if you think you have the upper hand, you're an idiot. however, in the context of the argument, the "better position" means a better social, economic, and psychological position. that argument, fair enough, may be mostly true. but it also applies to thousands of other transactions in a persons lifetime. am I only to trade with those who are smarter and richer than I am? is there still not an inequality there? perhaps I should only trade with my equals in society, and we can switch to the impenitrible caste system - it works for India! (oh, wait, they have prostitutes, too.....)

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The truth is, while many prostitutes would rather be doing something else for money, so would 90% of the world. Mnay of the prostitutes in Thailand are college-age girls who spend their days and nights doing what 20-somethings do: they sleep until noon, go shopping and eating with their friends, and go drinking and partying at night. Since many of the men in Thailand are unemployed drunks, these girls send money home to their parents, boyfriends, husbands, and children. They are intelligent, clever, and goddamn hard working. They do not want your pity, and certainly not your judgement.

But most of all, they are sentient beings who CHOOSE this life. I meet several girls who CHOOSE to work in banks, or restaurants, or fitness centers. I meet girls in the gogo bars who serve drinks, but don't hook. I meet girls who are full blown hookers, but won't fuck certain guys for one reason or another. They all have a choice.

And if tomorrow, the super hot Asian goddess with those almond eyes and those perfect lips and clean shaved pussy chooses to fulfill my every desire, I'm going to let her. And since I'm such a nice guy, I'm going to help her send a little extra money home next month.

I'm not saying it's RIGHT, I'm just saying it IS.

"Selling's legal. Fucking's legal. Why isn't selling fucking legal?" - George Carlin

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51 replies and still no pics

umh umh

If he likes to pay for sex, what is wrong with that? I am not a hooker kind of guy. I prefer to goto a club or something, and meet a lady there.

However, if he choose to fuck hookers, why do you care? I don't get your point...

love people who are so concerned about other people.

Libertine: you may not have realised I live in the same country as you do, and I need my hours of sleep too. That's why I decided to call it a night and continue the next day.

Thanks for taking the time to write such an extensive reply. Then again, you must have been touched when your very right of existence was discussed. I've done my fair share of travelling thru southeast asia too, I have a filipino girlfriend and yes I've seen a real-life hooker.

I'm indeed not talking about mental retardation. "The rest of us are psychologically damaged from a childhood of molestation and alcoholism?" Maybe you are, and maybe that's what has brought you to actions as the ones you write so highly about. You're lucky you're on the better side of the border to poverty. I'm absolutely sure you'll see a disproportionately large prevalence of child abuse and scars of other molestation among prostitutes, anywhere in the world.

Indeginous people doing the same thing makes it right for you to do it?

"She CHOSE to sell her body." Yes she did, but it was an ill-informed choice (because of the factors I mentioned above). Now tell me, you whoremonger, is this a choice you'd make, considering the scars she'll carry the rest of her life, the shame, the embarrassment, the health hazards, the addiction to luxury it will create and feed, the routine it will engrave? You didn't fall so deep in that pit of poverty that you'd take any hand you could to get out of it, without considering what will happen afterwards. You have the clarity of view - although of course your vision is usually blurred by prehistoric lusts - needed to make informed decisions!

Try to make it sound plausible for yourself. Can you apply your logic to yourself if you put yourself in her situation, or do you agree with me you're just overruling your own shame and disgust with yourself? Then again, abusing others like you do is plenty of reason to feel terrible...

I dislike autistic nerds.

There is a difference between being autistic and being sooo concerned about ppl that you post it on GFY...

Seriously, why do you care?

I have a compulsive personality

I hate to see unjustice happen before my very eyes

Reak and AGV ROCK!!!!

still tempted to fuck one of these hookers by yourself, like you were few months ago?

Just listening to Mr Morality who works in the porn biz makes me laugh

You can take the girl out of the bar but you can't take the bar out of the girl

Reak's silence is deafening...

when will you finally spill your beans?

what is your grudge against him?
what did he do to piss you off that much that you start a thread and bump it every god damned day.
and don't come with this "it is not right to treat women that way" bullshit again.

he got more money then you ?
he fucked your gf/wife?
he fucked you over?


this whole thread is so damn pointless.

he never started any threads bragging how much he loves to fuck hookers.
he does it and enjoys it.
so fucking what?
im sure he treats the hookers 100times better then some men treat their women.

I think I've expressed my reasons often enough in this thread.

Rhesus,
You must be a surfer because someone who makes a living off of the ADULT market would know better than to say something as ridiculous as the posts made above.

Unless you are a slave, you have a choice in life. That choice extends to all women around the world regardless of their economic status.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say you have never even been to a 3rd world country, and if you have it was not long enough for you to really grasp what is really going there.

However, you are entitled to your opinion even though it is ironic that one would make such a post on an adult webmaster board. The same board where all the members profit from women, men and transsexuals who sell their bodies (and often degraded) for money.

and still you got no point.

what was the initial blast that made you creat this thread.

and all your talking that a prostitue is not aware of what she does to her and her life is total bullshit.
they are legal by law and they have to take resposibility of their actions.

but asking you what your beef with reak is will lead nowhere..
you are not man enough to admit what really bothers you.

so go on playing your childish game.

I don't think you're bright enough to understand this does really bother me. And furthermore, what law are they legal by?

so you keep on telling us that you work in the adult biz and post on gfy and at the same time you are dissing some dude who (in your owns word) did nothing to piss you of but pays hookers for sex?

why not contact him personally to talk about it with him?

you are a fucking dramawhore who wants to ruin his reputation.

and as long you are not man enough to admit what he did to anger you this game is no fun because your standart lines are getting lame

great statement alky

Calm down gent, and please formulate a little more carefully. I don't work in the adult industry either, fyi. Now, if Reak could please answer so we can finish the thread? Thanks.

you don't work in the adult industry? then LEAVE.

you just admitted you are nothing more then a surfer and won't contribute anything valuable for this board.

and a last question before you go: did you ever try to contact him via icq,email etc.?

and btw. you just registered to start this hating ?

lol sure... and all because of the poor prostitutes and evil reak paying them for sex



for sheeeeeeeeezy

and btw. i will not calm down

this is gfy and the term " DRAMAWHORE" is just like any other term

it is part of the system
if it hurts your feelings feel free to leave

can i use this?

Phuket sure is nice in December.

You have no idea what you are talking about. You can not possibly fathom what is really going on inside a prostitutes mind. You can not comprehend why women will choose to sell their bodies. You could not understand what is really happening inside one of these countries that you spent your holiday in and what choices the people have there.

Of crourse is is very easy for you to form an opinion on something you know nothing about, as most westerners do. But you don't know. You have no idea.

But since you want to get on a high horse...

Do you own Nike shoes? Why don't you take a look around your house and see what items were made in Thailand, Indonesia, China, India, Cambodia, Guam, Philippines or Vietnam. Don't forget to check the tags of your clothes. All of them. Let me know what you find please.

If you own any products from those areas you probably support sweat shops. You probably support minors working 18 hour days in extreme heat, 7 days a week. And for sure you support underpaid and overworked people taken advantage of by western companies.

Nahhh... not you. You don't support these things. You couldn't. Not you. You would not take advantage of slave labor or be part of any system that abuses children or poor people to make a profit.

Would you?

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KO

in the words of this board: Go Fuck Yourself. and don't let the door hit you in the back whe you leave

Hahahaha... this thread makes me laugh.. Reak is good people..

And illegal? not where he is from.. Amsterdam is heaven bro.. Vegas is for Pussies.. Amsterdam is the real Sin City..

Sebastian

so rhesus where are you now?

speachless?

TESTIFY!

I love reading your posts

everyone pays for pussy at some point...you just don't realize it. Even if it's not in the classic prostitute/escort scenerio.....trust me.

we all pay for pussy in one way or another.

Thank you sir.

Yuppers. Sad but true.

So all this is about a chargeback for AGV?

Having met him, he's a good looking, young kid with money. I highly doubt he NEEDS to pay for sex to get laid.

lol you can't read


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he is only here to show reak that it is unjust to treat women like that and pay them as prostitutes

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sorry but i have to correct you

he is a good looking adult with money

Truth be told, most of the guys I know who pay for sex are young, handsome and wealthy as well. All of them could get all the free snatch in the world (and often they do).

I think the fact of the matter is that paying for it is convenient, fast, economical. Not to mention it allows you to better utilize your time so you can spend it on what really matters to you instead of chasing some girl around all day, every day.

Sorry, yes, he's officially an adult, but a young adult.

Oh there's definitely that factor. Cost/benefit ratio, time constraints, etc.

Uno how much did you sell teennn.com for?

Dumb brat, you think everything is about money and pleasure?

To the rest: your comments are too stupid to even answer

As simple as your question is, yes I have.

Hi Loryn!!!

Fantastic thread. Rhesus, it's good to know you have an opinion about prostitution ... but also hopefully understand that your opinion isn't the norm, at least in the adult business or on GFY. We are in the business of selling pleasure, which with current technology relys upon real people performing real acts.

It should all be about freedom of choice, but seldom do people have that freedom. Everyone has to make a living and support themselves by whatever means necessary. There is a tiny group of people that have the ideal job, and feel good everyday with what they do. But the truth is that most people do when they need to in order to survive. And practicing the world's oldest profession is one of those ways. IMHO. the people who work for McDonalds in 3rd world countries are treated much worse financially than almost any prostitute. Mental state is a moot point, since it is impossible to truly understand the mental state of a person who has been raised in a culture completely different than your own.

Since morality has no blanket coverage, it is up to individuals to balance what they feel is right and what enables them to support themselves.