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08-31-2006, 06:07 PM

I am here to learn... I make a living from TGP Traffics and I always want to learn more. Lets share what I know and what works for me.

Marketing TGP galleries.
-Pick quality TGPs to submit... Sites like shemp... richards realm... thumzbilla... u will make sales off them. Cuz they have lots of bookmarkers which means "Quality Traffics"
-Use contents not so many are using. "People tend to buy new stuff they never seen before.
-Use Ok quality contents. "Will u buy a tv with blurry pictures?"
-Promote NEW sites! So u dont have much competitors!
-Use pics then sell surfers to movs tour.
-Use movs then sell surfers to movs tour with samples clips.
-Use reality contents U can only sell surfers to reality sites.
-Use amateur model contents then sell surfers to amateur model sites.
-Clean design for ur galleries, good written short sales texts.

Marketing TGP sites.
-Pick a niche... dont go general because surfers see the same sponsors all the time.
-Get more traffic at least 10k u earn 100? 200? bucks a month? u do the math.
-Skim less
-Gain more bookmark
-Put text galleries at the bottom.
-Prefer text tgps over thumbs.
-Find good host, fast host, reliable host.
-REMEMBER TO work on ur SEO. just pure tgp traffic converts around 1:2000 average but search engine converts 4 times better.
-If u want more signup? Get MORE TRAFFIC.
-Trade with quality sites.
-Where to look for quality sites? Look at the toplist of a good site.
-Update ur galleries everyday.
-USE LOTS OF SPONSORS on your site.

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I been working with TGP traffics for almost 3 years. I own these.
Filipinasluts.net 5k text
18aa.com 5k text
Oriental-sex.org
Thaisluts.org 10k thumbs
Japanesesluts.org 50k thumbs
Indiansluts.org 1k thumbs
and more to come.

These are everything i know and test... please leave more good advices. lets make this a time worthy thread and everyone can learn something from it. Also, if u guys dont mind, name ur sites and tell a bit about urself. By the way, nice to meet ya all.
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08-31-2006, 06:31 PM

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08-31-2006, 07:22 PM

Very good advice

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08-31-2006, 07:45 PM

awesome list, thanks for the advise!

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08-31-2006, 08:34 PM

Originally posted by tiramisu

I am here to learn... I make a living from TGP Traffics and I always want to learn more. Lets share what I know and what works for me.

Marketing TGP galleries.
-Pick quality TGPs to submit... Sites like shemp... richards realm... thumzbilla... u will make sales off them. Cuz they have lots of bookmarkers which means "Quality Traffics"
-Use contents not so many are using. "People tend to buy new stuff they never seen before.
-Use Ok quality contents. "Will u buy a tv with blurry pictures?"
-Promote NEW sites! So u dont have much competitors!
-Use pics then sell surfers to movs tour.
-Use movs then sell surfers to movs tour with samples clips.
-Use reality contents U can only sell surfers to reality sites.
-Use amateur model contents then sell surfers to amateur model sites.
-Clean design for ur galleries, good written short sales texts.

Marketing TGP sites.
-Pick a niche... dont go general because surfers see the same sponsors all the time.
-Get more traffic at least 10k u earn 100? 200? bucks a month? u do the math.
-Skim less
-Gain more bookmark
-Put text galleries at the bottom.
-Prefer text tgps over thumbs.
-Find good host, fast host, reliable host.
-REMEMBER TO work on ur SEO. just pure tgp traffic converts around 1:2000 average but search engine converts 4 times better.
-If u want more signup? Get MORE TRAFFIC.
-Trade with quality sites.
-Where to look for quality sites? Look at the toplist of a good site.
-Update ur galleries everyday.
-USE LOTS OF SPONSORS on your site.

About myself
I been working with TGP traffics for almost 3 years. I own these.
Filipinasluts.net 5k text
18aa.com 5k text
Oriental-sex.org
Thaisluts.org 10k thumbs
Japanesesluts.org 50k thumbs
Indiansluts.org 1k thumbs
and more to come.

These are everything i know and test... please leave more good advices. lets make this a time worthy thread and everyone can learn something from it. Also, if u guys dont mind, name ur sites and tell a bit about urself. By the way, nice to meet ya all.

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08-31-2006, 09:10 PM

Hello Mr Shemp, glad you stop by and read my post. Do you have any TGP tips or tricks? We know you been in this industry for real long time and own several successful tgp sites. Maybe we can learn something from you. By the way, its a pleasure to meet you. ;)
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08-31-2006, 10:22 PM

good post!

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09-01-2006, 06:49 PM

Originally posted by tiramisu

Hello Mr Shemp, glad you stop by and read my post. Do you have any TGP tips or tricks? We know you been in this industry for real long time and own several successful tgp sites. Maybe we can learn something from you. By the way, its a pleasure to meet you. ;)

the best tip i can give a gallery submitter is to submit every day of the year..dont take weekends or holidays off...

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09-01-2006, 11:43 PM

Mr Shemp. Good point! Do you have some tips for TGP owners? or people who want to start their own tgps?
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09-02-2006, 05:24 AM

Yep, that would be very cool, because atm I'm thinking about opening an own TGP. There are a few questions on my mind:

1. What's the best TGP script to use? Smart Thumbs?
2. What would you say, how much bandwidth should my hosting plan have at least if I want to open a TGP? Or would you even say that dedicated is a MUST for a TGP?
3. How important is the design? I see a lot of new TGP's that seem to spend a lot on professional design. Would you say that's a must aswell or maybe overrated?
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09-02-2006, 05:39 AM

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Yep, that would be very cool, because atm I'm thinking about opening an own TGP. There are a few questions on my mind:

1. What's the best TGP script to use? Smart Thumbs?
2. What would you say, how much bandwidth should my hosting plan have at least if I want to open a TGP? Or would you even say that dedicated is a MUST for a TGP?
3. How important is the design? I see a lot of new TGP's that seem to spend a lot on professional design. Would you say that's a must aswell or maybe overrated?

1. The success rate for new TGPs is very poor....by success i mean making a pile of money, though......no reason that you cant start a TGP and make some sales, just dont expect to be theHun, cuz its not gonna happen..

2. I only have text TGPs so i cant give you hands on advice for Thumb TGPs, but Comus and Smart thumbs seem quite popular..

3. Yes, i would suggest a dedicated server, you will need to run scripts, plus a TGP has to load fast, so dont go cheap on hosting. at least 5mbps to start, with an option to add more right away...

4. design is important, but more important is the surfer remebering your site...so a great name, logo and theme would be the way to go...

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09-02-2006, 05:48 AM

Thanks for the hints, shemp! So it has to be dedicated, huh? OK, I really have to think about it again then, because with the script license, hosting, design & perhaps some bought traffic for the kickoff this will be quite a big invest. Plus I agree with you that the TGP market is pretty oversaturated and the chance of being successful is not that high.
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09-02-2006, 05:53 AM

Originally posted by RussianRealitySites

Thanks for the hints, shemp! So it has to be dedicated, huh? OK, I really have to think about it again then, because with the script license, hosting, design & perhaps some bought traffic for the kickoff this will be quite a big invest. Plus I agree with you that the TGP market is pretty oversaturated and the chance of being successful is not that high.

well, it doesnt HAVE to be dedicated, but i know so many sites that start low and have to keep upgrading or changing hosts...and that is never good...trust me, you can fine all sorts of ways to use 5-10mbps....bandwidth is so cheap now, it was $8.00-10.00 per gig when i started..

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09-02-2006, 06:10 AM

Hehe, yeah - it doesn't HAVE to be dedicated of course. But if you use a shared account with limited bandwidth and they turn down your site because you already used your monthly bandwidth within let's say 15 days, that would be FUCKED ;)
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09-02-2006, 06:38 AM

the scripts you mentioned, would you be able to make a text tgp out of those or is there some good text tgp software out there?

Edit: How did you start traffic flowing to your site, Shemp?

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09-02-2006, 07:25 AM

Originally posted by rigrunner

the scripts you mentioned, would you be able to make a text tgp out of those or is there some good text tgp software out there?

Edit: How did you start traffic flowing to your site, Shemp?

back in the old days it was pretty easy to get traffic..there wasnt a a ton of competition and so many people were new to the internet and looking for adult content...tgps made it easy for surfers to find porn and to be able to surf without being hassled by consoles and popups and misleading links...
needless to say, those early TGPs that stayed clean, didnt need to worry about getting traffic, they grew very quickly....

i did some things that were a little different though...most sites were updating daily, so i started out updating twice a day and i also insisted that my recip be used with recips to AL4A/Ampland, Snake, HardcoreJunky, Tommy etc......all solid clean sites, which gave me credibilty as well.

scripts weren't really used a lot early on either, i know i went about 2 years without any traffic trade script at all..im sure i had at least 80-100K uniques a day, before we ever used a trade script...

autogallerypro has some scripts that are good for text TGPS..i use a modifed version of the X-3 TGP Pro script, which is an old but very stable tgp management script.

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09-02-2006, 10:13 AM

Sorry to say that but in my opinion your tips "suck"! They are nothing more than common sense.
"Want more sales, get more traffic!"? What tip is that?
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09-02-2006, 10:58 AM

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Sorry to say that but in my opinion your tips "suck"! They are nothing more than common sense.
"Want more sales, get more traffic!"? What tip is that?

you were looking for uncommon sense ?

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09-02-2006, 11:02 AM

This is probably the best and most helpfull post i've read on here
cheers.
I have a few Q's though -
What are traffic trade scripts?
What are smart thumbs?
I don't get "
-Use pics then sell surfers to movs tour.
-Use movs then sell surfers to movs tour with samples clips.
-Use reality contents U can only sell surfers to reality sites."
any chance you could re-phrase? cheers!
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09-02-2006, 01:19 PM

RussianRealitySites:
1. Any scripts is fine if u are going to build a text tgp, even free scripts like autopro trial and comus trial will do the job. For thumb tgp, I recommend Autogal pro since is cheap and easy to use. Alot of people use Comus, I never work with it before so I dont know how good it is.

2. I am a conversative guy. I only use good hosting with big name. I host all my sites on OXEO.com. Its expensive but its fast and great service. Bandwith... for a thumb tgp, I would go for something like $99 500gigs/month. Its enough bangwith to burn small site from 10k to maybe 50k.

3. Design yes, shemp is right. Its important! Spend some time to do a better and a more attractive logo. Use theme, then use color. For example, people love to see lots of red in an Asian site. Use baby blue or milky yellow for teen site, gives u the innocent feeling. Things like that.

U mention TGP market is oversaturated. NO, I dont agree. Start something exclusive. For example, theres no point to build a teen TGP. U know why! and u probably know the traffic wont convert. Why not build a TEEN IN PANTY site? Still teen but all ur galleries focus on young girls wearing panty. And sell those surfers to TEEN IN PANTY Sponsors.

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09-02-2006, 01:22 PM

Mr shemp. I have a question about the future of TGP market. Do you think conversion will keep getting worse? No matter new niche or new sites? Do surfers get sicked of TGPS and find other free sources? If you were to give a time for TGP market, how long will that be? 5 years? 10 years?
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09-02-2006, 01:54 PM

It's great to see good informative posts like this!
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09-02-2006, 03:34 PM

Originally posted by tiramisu

Mr shemp. I have a question about the future of TGP market. Do you think conversion will keep getting worse? No matter new niche or new sites? Do surfers get sicked of TGPS and find other free sources? If you were to give a time for TGP market, how long will that be? 5 years? 10 years?

when i started shemp in 1998, people said to me "not another TGP"....then it was the COPA bill....then they said TGPs would die out by 2000....then it was TGP2's putting us out of business....then it was 2257....then the govt....then the XXX domain....now its 2257/4472...always something..

the worst thing that ever happened to TGPs was the sponsor hosted gallery and the ability to create a fake TGP with a couple of mouseclicks.. webmasters and even non webmasters started to pump out FAKE TGPs like there was no tomorrow and every one of them sucked...they are all the same, no identity, no theme, no effort involved....and of course it watered down the market..

the market is too fragmented to answer your question and there are many different types of TGPs so i cant give one answer that will cover all the bases....but i dont see an end to this anytime soon..

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09-03-2006, 09:16 AM

hi everyone
i ONLY do gallery posting on TGPs for four years now
it's getting harder to get through but welll it still works ...
a question to all of you submitters : do you think it's worth it to PAY for listing ?

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09-03-2006, 10:50 AM

Great informative thread! Made me sign up her at GFY.
Am trying to implement many of the advice given above. I'm building up a series of both niched and more general tgp's. I can confirm that highly niched content from fresh sites and medium to small aff. programs do convert!
Also I belive in a good pro. design so I use designers insted of wasting my own time in building something myself, which I know will be sub-standard.

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09-03-2006, 11:35 AM

There should be more threads like this on GFY
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09-03-2006, 02:15 PM

Originally posted by the Shemp

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09-03-2006, 06:36 PM

Mr Shemp: Thank u so much, ur information always helpful and I have learned quite a bit from you. =)

MegWhite: I never bought paid listing, lets see if others can help. Thx!

willwank: yes I agree with what u said. What sites you run? Tell us something about ur sites.
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09-03-2006, 06:52 PM

I'm an affiliate manager, but I also run a TGP. It's www.LittleDirty.com using Autogallery Pro as the gallery manager and TM3 as the traffic trading script.

I don't think the TGP is going to die anytime soon. However, I think the functionality of the TGP in the big picture will evolve. We do a lot of experiments with traffic and the TGP is a key component in all the traffic models.
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09-03-2006, 07:01 PM

Good thread, good tips.

I lauged at the uncommon sense comment. :D

What's the ratio on text vs pic conversions?

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09-03-2006, 07:25 PM

Originally posted by Gillespie

Good thread, good tips.

I lauged at the uncommon sense comment. :D

What's the ratio on text vs pic conversions?

Well, there are two parts to this

1) Getting a click
2) Getting a conversion

Part 1 depends on the text used in the text link or the pic used on the pic link. The more targeted the text or pic, the more clicks you will get. for example, a text link that says "Slut Using Anal Beads" will be clicked on more often that a test link that says "Hot Slut Masturbating" if both links are on an Anal themed TGP. Also, the order of the links relative to the top and bottom of the page will affect the clicks (top page placement will make for more clicks).

Part 2 about conversions is a factor of the gallery design to entice a clickthrough to the tour page and then the ability of the tour page to convert the surfer.

So what I'm trying to say is text versus pic conversions really are affected by the ability of the webmaster to craft the text link or thumbnail. You have done your job on sending the sponsor the traffic.... the other 50% of getting the conversion is up to the sponsor and is out of your hands. I know this dosen't answer your question, but I hope this might give you a better picture fo you can formulate your own opinion.
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09-03-2006, 08:23 PM

Originally posted by tiramisu

Mr Shemp: Thank u so much, ur information always helpful and I have learned quite a bit from you. =)

MegWhite: I never bought paid listing, lets see if others can help. Thx!

willwank: yes I agree with what u said. What sites you run? Tell us something about ur sites.

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09-03-2006, 08:26 PM

Originally posted by Gillespie

Good thread, good tips.

I lauged at the uncommon sense comment. :D

What's the ratio on text vs pic conversions?

what really hurts conversions on Thumb display sites is using the thumbs as "trade bait" to send the surfer to another TGP site..

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09-04-2006, 01:18 AM

Thanks for the answer ;)

I might start experimenting with a little bit of both.

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09-04-2006, 03:12 AM

Good Info!

Very Informative thread! Hey TGP guys- add your website to our new adult search engine. Hope to see you there!

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09-04-2006, 03:12 AM

Good Info!

Very Informative thread! Hey TGP guys- add your website to our new adult search engine. Hope to see you there!

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09-04-2006, 10:04 AM

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09-04-2006, 10:30 AM

Originally posted by A-Bomb

Well, there are two parts to this

1) Getting a click
2) Getting a conversion

Part 1 depends on the text used in the text link or the pic used on the pic link. The more targeted the text or pic, the more clicks you will get. for example, a text link that says "Slut Using Anal Beads" will be clicked on more often that a test link that says "Hot Slut Masturbating" if both links are on an Anal themed TGP. Also, the order of the links relative to the top and bottom of the page will affect the clicks (top page placement will make for more clicks).

Part 2 about conversions is a factor of the gallery design to entice a clickthrough to the tour page and then the ability of the tour page to convert the surfer.

So what I'm trying to say is text versus pic conversions really are affected by the ability of the webmaster to craft the text link or thumbnail. You have done your job on sending the sponsor the traffic.... the other 50% of getting the conversion is up to the sponsor and is out of your hands. I know this dosen't answer your question, but I hope this might give you a better picture fo you can formulate your own opinion.

A very good post A-Bomb.

A good, well crafted but honest text link is one of the most underated sales tools around. Many webmasters are just too lazy to take the time to come up with one and then wonder why their links don't get the clicks they had hoped for.

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09-04-2006, 01:59 PM

Hi,

First i like to say hello to everybody.
As you can see on my posts I am a new guy on the board.
At the moment I am reading and learning from all the threads here on GFY.
I am also preparing my first text TGP,at the moment i am looking for a good company to get my dedicated and I am looking around for a designer.
I don't just want to start something,but I like to do it in a good way,even if the good way is not the key for succes.

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09-04-2006, 05:52 PM

building a tgp
get a good server, dedicated is best
use a free version of comusthumbs, upgrade after making money
use a free trade script, upgrade after making some money
tgp design can be had for $100, I can help you get one
then make sure everything is working good before you buy loads of traffic, then start trading using the skim feature, but set the level of skim so that you don't piss off the surfer and get bookmarks
Never stop learning about what your doing, always new ways to make income off tgp's

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Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
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09-05-2006, 12:23 AM

Originally posted by A-Bomb

... snip ...

So what I'm trying to say is text versus pic conversions really are affected by the ability of the webmaster to craft the text link or thumbnail. You have done your job on sending the sponsor the traffic.... the other 50% of getting the conversion is up to the sponsor and is out of your hands. I know this dosen't answer your question, but I hope this might give you a better picture fo you can formulate your own opinion.

99% agreed

I also check out my sponsors tours/fhg. "Do I get turned on?", "Would I sign up?" Basically I'm looking for something that sticks out from the gazillion of other tours/fhg's. Naturally I can't do that for every fhg/tour but once I get to know one sponsor and their way of doing things I trust them.

Originally posted by tiramisu

willwank: yes I agree with what u said. What sites you run? Tell us something about ur sites.

Well, it's early days still. I just finished freebieporno.com and are starting to build trades one at the time while (hint, looking for good trades) I purchase some euro traffic. The domain came with some type-in and backlinks and that have produced some conversions even before the site was properly finished.
Also working on 1stclassnudes.com and messyteenfacials.com which also have type-ins and backlinks. Hope to launch both of them this week. Also have allpornfetish.com but havn't had time to take proper care of it lately. It needs a better structure/design and someone to update the blog.

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09-06-2006, 12:59 AM

nice thread. thanks to all. i am a professional programmer and currently make my living in the mainstream business world, but this stuff is too much fun to stay away from. i actually spent a few years messing with adult content, but as a programmer who truely enjoys programming, i was mostly focussed on how to make my stuff function well rather than make money well. anyway, i have set aside some time to dedicate to this industry and currently have a work in progress that will end up being somewhat of a glorified tgp. as such i am starting to step back in the game, but this time i will be equally focussed on the monetary aspect of the situation. i guess that's really the only advice i have, which probably isn't worth shit to any of you, but make sure you are constantly focussed on how you can make more money. if you have an idea and you don't see it converting into cash flow of some kind, then trash it because there are so many other ways to spend your time that will be rewarding financially. keep your mind on your money and your money on your mind... well ok, and hot chicks.

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