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  • JD
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Sep 2003
    • 22651
    #1

    Wordpress is a whore

    Although I'm normally a huge fan of Wordpress I just HAD to share this with you all that think Wordpress isn't a resource hog

    I had Wordpress installed on a dedicated box with 1GB of RAM and Wordpress was using 700MB of it, maxing out the RAM, then heading over to swap for ANOTHER 1GB and it still wanted more

    The site was only at 10k/day average

    I'm no longer a believer in the "Wordpress isn't a hog" cult

    I removed Wordpress as the weapon of choice and now there's 800MB of free RAM
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    • selective Anthony
      Confirmed User
      • Aug 2006
      • 250
      #2
      Lol thats interesting, are you sure its like that for everyone? I have it installed on a couple sites, not even close to bein that bad for us. 4500/day avg last motnh, runnen strong!
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        • GrouchyAdmin
          Now choke yourself!
          • Apr 2006
          • 12085
          #3
          That's not quite normal, even for wp. However, WordPress does have the highest amount of DB calls per CMS that I've ever seen - and that's WITHOUT additions.

          But, yeah, WP is a whore.

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            • JD
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Sep 2003
              • 22651
              #4
              Originally posted by selective Anthony
              Lol thats interesting, are you sure its like that for everyone? I have it installed on a couple sites, not even close to bein that bad for us. 4500/day avg last motnh, runnen strong!
              so far this is the second box that Wordpress has gone ape shit on. The boxes are at different companies with different admins.

              The only similarities between the 2 machines is that they both are running Debian

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                • bknoob
                  Confirmed User
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 1610
                  #5
                  I suggest you use a caching plugin i.e. WP-Cache: http://dev.wp-plugins.org/wiki/WP-Cache

                  It helped me tons when one of my pages got dugg to frontpage

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                    • JD
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 22651
                      #6
                      Originally posted by bknoob
                      I suggest you use a caching plugin i.e. WP-Cache: http://dev.wp-plugins.org/wiki/WP-Cache

                      It helped me tons when one of my pages got dugg to frontpage
                      tried it and it didn't help 1 bit

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                        • GrouchyAdmin
                          Now choke yourself!
                          • Apr 2006
                          • 12085
                          #7
                          Originally posted by bknoob
                          I suggest you use a caching plugin i.e. WP-Cache: http://dev.wp-plugins.org/wiki/WP-Cache

                          It helped me tons when one of my pages got dugg to frontpage
                          WPCache won't work with gzip, despite being based on jpcache. You're just as well to make a static page daily, and redirect indrect root requests to it.

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                            • bknoob
                              Confirmed User
                              • Apr 2006
                              • 1610
                              #8
                              Gotcha, it helped me personally so I figured I'd suggest. I guess your needs are a little different from mine :o

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                                • PimpDaddyPants
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Aug 2005
                                  • 1581
                                  #9
                                  I have a blog script that works wonders with SE's

                                  within the third day i get traffic from se's and google images

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                                    • Zarathustra
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Oct 2005
                                      • 1094
                                      #10
                                      you can write your own cache script spermy, then you'll be basiacally serving up html pages, 0 DB and your load will drop.

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                                        • Love Sex
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Nov 2004
                                          • 1905
                                          #11
                                          what are you using instead?

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                                            • Tullian Zombie
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • May 2006
                                              • 302
                                              #12
                                              I guess I'm lucky, not one problem with Wordpress acting like greedy whore here!
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                                                • LiveDose
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                                                  • Feb 2002
                                                  • 25792
                                                  #13
                                                  I love whores. They make me money.

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                                                    • Tuga
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Nov 2002
                                                      • 7678
                                                      #14
                                                      WP is my bitch!

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                                                        • PussyTeenies
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Feb 2005
                                                          • 6496
                                                          #15
                                                          check your plugins
                                                          i had a few running plugins that even killed my server
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                                                            • Basic_man
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                                                              • Oct 2003
                                                              • 27360
                                                              #16
                                                              Crazy!!! But I'm not sure it's because of wordpres..
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                                                                • free4porn
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Jun 2005
                                                                  • 4654
                                                                  #17
                                                                  wordpress is a hoe
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                                                                    • JD
                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                      • Sep 2003
                                                                      • 22651
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by PussyTeenies
                                                                      check your plugins
                                                                      i had a few running plugins that even killed my server
                                                                      yeah I nailed all of the plugins and it still was killing my box. I even went through at made the template as static as possible (hardlinked categories/blogroll/archieves/etc) and nuffin

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                                                                        • emthree
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                                                                          • Jun 2003
                                                                          • 10816
                                                                          #19
                                                                          BUMP for a solution.

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                                                                            • grusthumbs
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Nov 2004
                                                                              • 630
                                                                              #20
                                                                              I haven't had a wordpress site big enough to use that many resources yet
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                                                                                • Splum
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • May 2003
                                                                                  • 6195
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by emthree
                                                                                  BUMP for a solution.
                                                                                  Solution is make your own custom blog scripts.

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                                                                                    • smashface
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Sep 2002
                                                                                      • 991
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Techcrunch is using WP and they're probably serving up 100k pageview per day. They must have figured something out.

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                                                                                        • Vox
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Mar 2002
                                                                                          • 2710
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by emthree
                                                                                          BUMP for a solution.
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                                                                                            • mr stabby
                                                                                              Registered User
                                                                                              • Jul 2006
                                                                                              • 25
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              I had a site doing 10k a day and had not experienced that issue.
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                                                                                                • JD
                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                  • Sep 2003
                                                                                                  • 22651
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by mr stabby
                                                                                                  I had a site doing 10k a day and had not experienced that issue.
                                                                                                  I've got sites that far exceed this blog that never have a problem. I'm not really sute wtf is going on tbh and neither do the wp support guys

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                                                                                                    • Pleasurepays
                                                                                                      BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES
                                                                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                                                                      • 11913
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      ooopps. i stumbled in here because my sisters name is WordPress. i thought i was gonna have to defend her honor.

                                                                                                      sorry... carry on.

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                                                                                                        • gooddomains
                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                          • Jul 2003
                                                                                                          • 10127
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          any more news on this issue ?

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                                                                                                            • BlackCrayon
                                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                              • Jun 2003
                                                                                                              • 19634
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              anything better to use than wordpress? i was gonna install in on a few domains that i plan on getting a lot of traffic to.
                                                                                                              you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                                                                                                                • gooddomains
                                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                  • 10127
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                                                                                                                  anything better to use than wordpress? i was gonna install in on a few domains that i plan on getting a lot of traffic to.
                                                                                                                  That's what I'd like to know as well

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                                                                                                                    • JD
                                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                      • Sep 2003
                                                                                                                      • 22651
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                                                                                                                      anything better to use than wordpress? i was gonna install in on a few domains that i plan on getting a lot of traffic to.
                                                                                                                      movabletype and joomla are both pretty good and I've not heard of people having resource issues with them

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                                                                                                                        • mrkris
                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                          • May 2005
                                                                                                                          • 2737
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          joomla is generally overkill for most peoples needs.

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                                                                                                                            • webair
                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                              • Feb 2002
                                                                                                                              • 8531
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              a bitch whore at that =)


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                                                                                                                                • JD
                                                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                  • Sep 2003
                                                                                                                                  • 22651
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by mrkris
                                                                                                                                  joomla is generally overkill for most peoples needs.
                                                                                                                                  yeah true but you're a n00b so stfu

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                                                                                                                                    • dozey
                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                      • Nov 2004
                                                                                                                                      • 552
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      last time I checked the db schema used by wordpress... it was horrid.. not even a hint of optimisation, wouldn't surprise me at all if it causes far more load / uses more time that necessary

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                                                                                                                                        • killerkay
                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                          • Mar 2005
                                                                                                                                          • 1482
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          wordpress does truly suck.


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                                                                                                                                            • Violetta
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                                                                                                                                              • Jul 2004
                                                                                                                                              • 28735
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Not sure how to check how much ram it is using?!
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                                                                                                                                                • jayeff
                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                  • May 2001
                                                                                                                                                  • 2944
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Frequently when WP is going crazy it is because someone is using wp-cache but doesn't have it installed properly. It then generates more work for the server than if it were not there. That probably applies to 8 out of 10 wp-cache installs I have looked at. As a rule, the cache directory doesn't exist, else it and/or the WP config file have the wrong permissions.

                                                                                                                                                  Otherwise, although WP has some of the sloppiest code I have seen for the way it makes database calls, the biggest issue seems to be how well the server is configured. Credit to my techies because I know very little about that end of things, but for 3+ years I have had multiple instances of WP and other reputed hogs running on very ordinary boxes without any problems.

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                                                                                                                                                    • baddog
                                                                                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                      • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                                                      • 107089
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by SPeRMiNaToR
                                                                                                                                                      movabletype and joomla are both pretty good and I've not heard of people having resource issues with them

                                                                                                                                                      joomla? don't think I can agree there

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                                                                                                                                                        • grumpy
                                                                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                          • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                                                          • 9870
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by PimpDaddyPants
                                                                                                                                                          I have a blog script that works wonders with SE's

                                                                                                                                                          within the third day i get traffic from se's and google images

                                                                                                                                                          what are you using?
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                                                                                                                                                            • woj
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                                                                                                                                                              • Jul 2002
                                                                                                                                                              • 47880
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              you must be doing something wrong, 10k/day on a standard wordpress install won't kill a server...
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