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02-10-2009, 04:23 AM

check this very cool article that breaks down living expenses on NYC bankers which provides a neat glimpse into a high-end way of living. it provides an understanding why they will be very unhappy about higher taxes and a salary cap of 500k. They just will not be able to survive.

"Five hundred thousand dollars ? the amount President Obama wants to set as the top pay for banking executives whose firms accept government bailout money ? seems like a lot, and it is a lot. To many people in many places, it is a princely sum to live on. But in the neighborhoods of New York City and its suburban enclaves where successful bankers live, half a million a year can go very fast."

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02-10-2009, 04:26 AM

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02-10-2009, 04:29 AM

It seems big earners dont think they have to make any cut backs, even when the places they work are getting bailouts !

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02-10-2009, 04:29 AM

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02-10-2009, 04:34 AM

the $500k limit is putting a burden on many individuals
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02-10-2009, 04:34 AM

Originally posted by fuzzylogic

But in the neighborhoods of New York City and its suburban enclaves where successful bankers live, half a million a year can go very fast."

note: successful bankers.

these guys companies failed, the company needs welfare... they are not successful. People on welfare never get to choose where they live.

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02-10-2009, 04:37 AM

they are complaining? sounds like my fucking kids.

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02-10-2009, 05:03 AM

Oh Darn. They might have to give up 1 of the vacations a year and cut back on the price of another.. Sad that my last vacation for 3 adults and 1 child cost me a little over 1200$ for 5 days.

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02-10-2009, 05:11 AM

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02-10-2009, 05:21 AM

gotta suck for public opinion to cap your livelyhood like that
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02-10-2009, 05:23 AM

Originally posted by Manowar

gotta suck for public opinion to cap your livelyhood like that

should be glad americans dont get to "vote on these bailouts" theyd really see public opinion cap their lifestyle, unemployed!

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02-10-2009, 05:29 AM

bankers could camp in tents in Central Park, it's big enough
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02-10-2009, 05:31 AM

Government should not be setting executive compensation, but they should not be in the bailout business either.

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02-10-2009, 05:40 AM

Originally posted by fuzzylogic

check this very cool article that breaks down living expenses on NYC bankers which provides a neat glimpse into a high-end way of living. it provides an understanding why they will be very unhappy about higher taxes and a salary cap of 500k. They just will not be able to survive.

"Five hundred thousand dollars ? the amount President Obama wants to set as the top pay for banking executives whose firms accept government bailout money ? seems like a lot, and it is a lot. To many people in many places, it is a princely sum to live on. But in the neighborhoods of New York City and its suburban enclaves where successful bankers live, half a million a year can go very fast."

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/08/fa...lfmill.html?em

Too fucking bad. If you can't make it on 500K the MOVE to a cheaper area or cut back expenses. I could live on $500K for 10-12 years easy. Maybe longer.
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02-10-2009, 05:41 AM

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Government should not be setting executive compensation, but they should not be in the bailout business either.

yes, but in this current economic reality, if they're gonna ask for a hand-out, they have to take the rules too.

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02-10-2009, 05:45 AM

Fuck them. They sure fucked a lot of other people.
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02-10-2009, 05:45 AM

do they think they are going to get sympathy by complaing about making "only" 500k?!?! Idiots...no wonder their banks failed.
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02-10-2009, 05:47 AM

These 'successful bankers' should count themselves lucky they were not caught doing what they have been doing in China. There, they would have most likely received a single gun shot to the back of the head, not a cap of $500k per year. LOL

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02-10-2009, 05:53 AM

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02-10-2009, 05:59 AM

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02-10-2009, 07:05 AM

$500K is a lot of money even for someone who lives in New York. The only interesting line in that article is this one, which is scary also for the middle class who live in NY:

"But in New York, where a new study from the Center for an Urban Future, a nonprofit research group in Manhattan, estimates it takes $123,322 to enjoy the same middle-class life as someone earning $50,000 in Houston, extricating oneself from steep bills can be difficult."

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02-10-2009, 08:32 AM

It's a matter of perspective, some people think 50k/year is a lot of money.... others think that 100k/year is great... then once they get there they realize it's not really THAT much...

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02-10-2009, 09:06 AM

Thats a lot of money!!!

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02-10-2009, 11:59 AM

'banker'....what a job

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02-10-2009, 12:11 PM

Tell those assholes to move to Jersey, put their kids in private school and have their wife watch the kids instead of shopping all day.
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02-10-2009, 12:16 PM

i have no issues with this. These are companies that need a bailout. If your company is kicking ass, feel free to get paid whatever the hell it is that you want.

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02-10-2009, 05:09 PM

Originally posted by DaddyHalbucks

Government should not be setting executive compensation, but they should not be in the bailout business either.

that was the view in the 30's and resulted in a huge economic massive downturn due to govnt inaction.
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02-10-2009, 05:25 PM

Originally posted by fuzzylogic

check this very cool article that breaks down living expenses on NYC bankers which provides a neat glimpse into a high-end way of living. it provides an understanding why they will be very unhappy about higher taxes and a salary cap of 500k. They just will not be able to survive.

"Five hundred thousand dollars — the amount President Obama wants to set as the top pay for banking executives whose firms accept government bailout money — seems like a lot, and it is a lot. To many people in many places, it is a princely sum to live on. But in the neighborhoods of New York City and its suburban enclaves where successful bankers live, half a million a year can go very fast."

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/08/fa...lfmill.html?em

They should have thought about that before driving their corporations into the ground.

If they can't make it in New YAWK on $500k, move to the midwest.

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02-10-2009, 05:51 PM

Same here in LA...
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02-10-2009, 06:04 PM

Originally posted by fuzzylogic

"Five hundred thousand dollars ? the amount President Obama wants to set as the top pay for banking executives whose firms accept government bailout money ? seems like a lot, and it is a lot. To many people in many places, it is a princely sum to live on. But in the neighborhoods of New York City and its suburban enclaves where successful bankers live, half a million a year can go very fast."

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/08/fa...lfmill.html?em

Didn't read whole thing but... From what I understand a lot of people live outside of NYC but still work there. I guess they take a bus or get there some other way. If you want to live there you're gonna pay out the ass. Sure you could drive/walk to work if you did and it wouldn't take long but that's a luxury. Most the crap they list is just a luxury a lot of people want but don't have. They should be glad they can afford most of that crap.
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02-10-2009, 06:09 PM

Originally posted by cess

Didn't read whole thing but... From what I understand a lot of people live outside of NYC but still work there. I guess they take a bus or get there some other way. If you want to live there you're gonna pay out the ass. Sure you could drive/walk to work if you did and it wouldn't take long but that's a luxury. Most the crap they list is just a luxury a lot of people want but don't have. They should be glad they can afford most of that crap.

if you RTFA you will understand that it's not "crap" that they buy, but rather a way of life they uphold which is not the same.
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02-10-2009, 07:12 PM

good article...
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02-10-2009, 07:18 PM

He should make it a 250k cap

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02-10-2009, 07:26 PM

Originally posted by Spunky

He should make it a 250k cap

Exactly.

The point is punishment. Not to live like a king.

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02-10-2009, 07:29 PM

Well Booo Hooo.. I guess that will teach them to run their companies into the ground then ask the govt for a bail out. Fuck them they can move to the slums for all I care.

Maybe when they can't pay theior mortage they will think twice about all the people they screwed with their ARM's and so on that led to their own failures.

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02-10-2009, 07:33 PM

I say fuck em, for basically raping and pillaging the system so they can live like fucking royalty. These assholes don't even actually produce anything. It's ironic that the people who make the most money do so because they are smart, crafty individuals. They don't deserve to live like kings for moving around the money of those who actually can create something. It's so backwards.

It's funny, and I hope they die soon.
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02-10-2009, 07:38 PM

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02-10-2009, 08:08 PM

Originally posted by $5 submissions

No caps. No bailouts.

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02-10-2009, 08:14 PM

The bailouts are necessary like it or not... these banks are rooted so deep in the economy's ass that letting them fail would endanger human kind ... yeah.. is that bad.. so the fuckers had to be bailed out by tax payers..... and now that their companies were saved by all of us they are fucking complaining their asses are not going to make it on 500K a year? .......... someone outta bitch slap those sons of bitches ...

This aint about socialism...cause the gvt is not doing the same thing with all CEOs .. (only the ones who fucked up big and are begging for money) ..... this is about the fuckers endangering the entire economy...... so now that the government tells them they ain't going to be playing with tax payers money.. they yell "Socialists!" ... I say GFY!

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02-10-2009, 09:37 PM

oh those poor bankers. Let's start "banker-aid" and see if U2 will play it
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02-10-2009, 10:37 PM

Originally posted by qxm

The bailouts are necessary like it or not... these banks are rooted so deep in the economy's ass that letting them fail would endanger human kind ... yeah.. is that bad.. so the fuckers had to be bailed out by tax payers..... and now that their companies were saved by all of us they are fucking complaining their asses are not going to make it on 500K a year? .......... someone outta bitch slap those sons of bitches ...

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02-10-2009, 10:38 PM

my heart bleeds for them really it does lol
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02-10-2009, 10:43 PM

500k is a lot of money...

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02-10-2009, 11:16 PM

500k isn't shit... After you pay 60% in taxes you don't really have all that much leftover.

Also, some of these CEO's were brother in AFTER the failure. If they don't pay them decent they will leave for a different industry.
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02-11-2009, 12:01 AM

Try to live from 500k in Luanda...

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02-11-2009, 12:05 AM

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02-11-2009, 12:21 AM

gonna have to give up the chauffeur now... i feel really sorry for them

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02-11-2009, 01:36 AM

People think there is a difference between Main Street and Wall Street. There's not. nearly all those banks and financial companies are public companies owned by millions of regular Americans (and non-Americans for that matter). JThe banks owners are regular people saving for their retirement in their 401ks and through mutual funds. Even the biggest shareholders are large public companies owned, again, by the citizens of Main Street. The same people who lost 30% of their home equity and 45% in their 401k, the same people who bought options ARMs, the same people who bought into "Real estate never decreases in value" own Wells Fargo, Citigroup and Bank of America. Either directly through mutual funds. The result is the same. Main Street *is* Wall Street.

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