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Old 02-09-2009, 06:18 AM  
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When you read others posts that reply back to you, do you keep in mind what they were answering?

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Yes it does. If you make statements with nothing to back it up I can as well.
As I said, "Price has zero to do with any of this.." - Responding to your comment "We need to meet the non buters needs on price and leave the free loaders to the Tubes." - No, price has nothing to do with non-buyers. Every marketing book, sales book, and anyone that has studied market trends knows for 100% fact that the price has zero to do with any of this.

Can price be a factor, of course.. but it 100% isn't in our case.

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This thread is not about what you or I do, it's about what the porn industry does.
The numbers i posted aren't mine or yours, they are the Industries. As I stated, across the Industry Retention is not down.

Simply, having a lower amount of rebills does not mean lower retention.

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So we all keep doing the same. Great.
Yeah, "thats the real problem" - You are doing it the same as everyone else, that's why your sales are down.


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The number of webmasters working on the Internet does not make any difference to the number of buyers, in fact less people giving out less free content could mean more sales. Affiliates do not create traffic, they direct existing. Yes they create it to a site, but unless they go out and force people to log on to the Adult Net they don't create it. They direct.
What?

Ok, first we are talking like 10,000+ less Webmasters.

Second, people do not come online to look for porn, only a very very small percentage do. fact... they come online for various forms of Entertainment.

Is that the problem with this Industry? You guys think people come online to look at porn? Ha! Some serious ego you guys have going.


So you keep marketing to the same people, willing to buy and being exposed to tubes. I will market to the 95% larger group, that has no idea what tubes are...

psst.... that's what the webmasters once did to us, they allowed mass marketing of non-porn-surfers - and brought them into our Industry.

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Even if 2257 cut the number of affiliates in half, it has little effect on the number of surfers looking for porn.
What? What? Read above.... It's now IMPOSSIBLE for you to reach a global market without them. It's that simple.




At the end of the day if the person can afford to be online, they an afford a membership. The problem is, you haven't sold them... but a bigger problem is, now you can't reach them since we don't have the Webmaster base to penetrate all the various markets.

It's not like you will ever market to them without the Webmasters, you market in adult, probably exclusively to that tiny 5% of the Internet.
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