Don't you think a 16yo needs the morning after pill more than a 22 yo?

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  • pr0
    rockin tha trailerpark
    • May 2001
    • 23088
    #1

    Don't you think a 16yo needs the morning after pill more than a 22 yo?

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    • brilsmurf
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      • Feb 2005
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      #2
      no, even a 12 year old would get a morning after pill or a contraceptive pil from me.. if they do it.. better with pregnancy protection!
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        • DWB
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          • Jul 2003
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          #3
          Eh... um.... yes she does.

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            • Libertine
              sex dwarf
              • May 2002
              • 17860
              #4
              Another fine example of conservative idiocy. For some reason, they seem to believe that not offering protection to teens will somehow stop them from having sex and will thus lower teen pregnancy and std rates
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                • Scootermuze
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                  • Dec 2001
                  • 4513
                  #5
                  Originally posted by Libertine
                  Another fine example of conservative idiocy. For some reason, they seem to believe that not offering protection to teens will somehow stop them from having sex and will thus lower teen pregnancy and std rates
                  Or.. they believe that giving easy access to it will send the message that it's ok to have sex... ..

                  Kinda hard to say which is the best direction to go.. .

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                    • Xplicit
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                      • May 2003
                      • 3558
                      #6
                      Its a catch22....

                      Yeah, pregnant 16 year olds are a bad thing.

                      But 16 year olds are also stupid enough to think they wont need a condom because of these pills.

                      Then that 16 year old slut spreads her aids/herpes throughout their highschool.

                      So you end up with 50 kids with aids or herpers instead of 1 pregnant girl.

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                        • Libertine
                          sex dwarf
                          • May 2002
                          • 17860
                          #7
                          Originally posted by Scootermuze
                          Or.. they believe that giving easy access to it will send the message that it's ok to have sex... ..

                          Kinda hard to say which is the best direction to go.. .
                          Look up teen pregnancy rates and std rates among teens for both the USA and The Netherlands, as well as their respective attitudes towards teen sex, sex ed and safe sex, and it isn't a tough question at all
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                            • DutchTeenCash
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                              • Feb 2003
                              • 21684
                              #8
                              Originally posted by Xplicit
                              Its a catch22....

                              Yeah, pregnant 16 year olds are a bad thing.

                              But 16 year olds are also stupid enough to think they wont need a condom because of these pills.

                              Then that 16 year old slut spreads her aids/herpes throughout their highschool.

                              So you end up with 50 kids with aids or herpers instead of 1 pregnant girl.
                              make that 12 in the UK

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                                • Libertine
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                                  • May 2002
                                  • 17860
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by Xplicit
                                  Its a catch22....

                                  Yeah, pregnant 16 year olds are a bad thing.

                                  But 16 year olds are also stupid enough to think they wont need a condom because of these pills.

                                  Then that 16 year old slut spreads her aids/herpes throughout their highschool.

                                  So you end up with 50 kids with aids or herpers instead of 1 pregnant girl.
                                  Nonsense. Good sex ed and giving out free condoms would fix that problem.
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                                    • Huskie
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                                      • Apr 2006
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                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by Scootermuze
                                      Or.. they believe that giving easy access to it will send the message that it's ok to have sex... ..

                                      Kinda hard to say which is the best direction to go.. .


                                      Why isnt it ok to have safe sex? Why is sex such an evil thing? No matter what, young teenagers will have sex. Sex isnt the problem, misinformation is, always has been for any topic, and always will be.

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                                        • Babagirls
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                                          • Feb 2001
                                          • 18812
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by Libertine
                                          Nonsense. Good sex ed and giving out free condoms would fix that problem.
                                          bingo. i think sex-ed should be 9th-12th grade, every year, as a mandatory class. i think in my health class, we had 2 classes on sex ed. thats it. and no condoms were handed out.

                                          i think alot of it is that teens arent prepared (with protection) and/or feel embarassed to go buy condoms (or maybe not a dime to their name to go buy one for a buck.) Think about it: most female teens would be scared/embarressed to buy condoms and probably even think that a guy would have one anyways so whats the point? And most males dont like the feeling of condoms and being young and stupid, wont care to buy some.

                                          we need to put (more than one) condom in the hands of both females AND males, every year. Let's face it, kids in 7th & 8th grade are already having sex. Let's get over that initial shock and start helping them not to get prego and spreading std's all over the place, and possibly to their unborn kid(s).




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                                            • DutchTeenCash
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                                              • Feb 2003
                                              • 21684
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by Babagirls
                                              bingo. i think sex-ed should be 9th-12th grade, every year, as a mandatory class. i think in my health class, we had 2 classes on sex ed. thats it. and no condoms were handed out.
                                              no condoms? weird, even I got those LONG ago, some classes even show how to put them on they practise on wooden sticks. Plus organisations hand them out at concert, clubs etc

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                                                • Babagirls
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                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by thinkx
                                                  no condoms? weird, even I got those LONG ago, some classes even show how to put them on they practise on wooden sticks. Plus organisations hand them out at concert, clubs etc
                                                  ya its sad, isnt it?? now, this was back in hmm....i'd say 1996'ish (give or take a year) that i took that 2 classes in high school. no condoms. just basically talked about std's. now, me being a safe & newly sexually active gal at that time ( i was 16), I ALWAYS carried condoms with me, every where. My ex fuck buddy, a few yrs ago made a comment one night when I was pulling out a condom before our 'session' and he said "you carry condoms like most people carry a lighter." that made me smile. thats what all teens need to do, too.

                                                  when did you go to school? maybe things changed since I was there...




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                                                    • Libertine
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                                                      • May 2002
                                                      • 17860
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by Babagirls
                                                      ya its sad, isnt it?? now, this was back in hmm....i'd say 1996'ish (give or take a year) that i took that 2 classes in high school. no condoms. just basically talked about std's. now, me being a safe & newly sexually active gal at that time ( i was 16), I ALWAYS carried condoms with me, every where. My ex fuck buddy, a few yrs ago made a comment one night when I was pulling out a condom before our 'session' and he said "you carry condoms like most people carry a lighter." that made me smile. thats what all teens need to do, too.

                                                      when did you go to school? maybe things changed since I was there...
                                                      I think he's Dutch, just like me. Sex ed has always been better here, but society as a whole is also more open about sex, so even without sex ed, most kids already know all about sex, protection, stds, etc.
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                                                        • Cyndalie
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                                                          • Jan 2002
                                                          • 3615
                                                          #15
                                                          The morning after pill is not birth control.
                                                          A woman of any age is capable of requiring a guy to use a rubber or use a sponge, female condom, or the pill, or ANYTHING.
                                                          In the cases of abuse, rape, or failed protection this drug is a blessing.
                                                          But man, if anything this this drug is the 'easy way out' i hate to see what happens to repeat users 10 years from now
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                                                            • pr0
                                                              rockin tha trailerpark
                                                              • May 2001
                                                              • 23088
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by Babagirls
                                                              ya its sad, isnt it?? now, this was back in hmm....i'd say 1996'ish (give or take a year) that i took that 2 classes in high school. no condoms. just basically talked about std's. now, me being a safe & newly sexually active gal at that time ( i was 16), I ALWAYS carried condoms with me, every where. My ex fuck buddy, a few yrs ago made a comment one night when I was pulling out a condom before our 'session' and he said "you carry condoms like most people carry a lighter." that made me smile. thats what all teens need to do, too.

                                                              when did you go to school? maybe things changed since I was there...
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                                                                • TurboAngel
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                                                                  • Jun 2003
                                                                  • 30122
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Youre into this pill thing huh? What's up with that?

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                                                                    • Scott McD
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                                                                      • Nov 2002
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                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by Libertine
                                                                      Another fine example of conservative idiocy. For some reason, they seem to believe that not offering protection to teens will somehow stop them from having sex and will thus lower teen pregnancy and std rates
                                                                      Agreed. I think it's those clowns who need the education...


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                                                                        • Scootermuze
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                                                                          • Dec 2001
                                                                          • 4513
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by Libertine
                                                                          Look up teen pregnancy rates and std rates among teens for both the USA and The Netherlands, as well as their respective attitudes towards teen sex, sex ed and safe sex, and it isn't a tough question at all
                                                                          Raising 2 daughters made it a very tough question...

                                                                          It's not that I disagree with you.. On the face of it all you're definitely right..

                                                                          But when you're looking at your teenage daughters and trying to figure out the best way to handle it, it's not easy admitting that they're gonna have sex and I need to make sure they do it right..

                                                                          But then my oldest (15 at the time) came home from the health clinic one day with a sack full of condoms that they had given to her..

                                                                          They're both 30-somethin' now, but there's a granddaughter to deal with... Pleeeeeeze make it stop!!

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                                                                            • Basic_man
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                                                                              • Oct 2003
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                                                                              #20
                                                                              That's crazy ! They should allow it for any ages !
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                                                                                • Peaches
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                                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                                  • 13933
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  16 year olds will have just as hard a time getting the morning after pill as they have getting booze. Someone will buy it for them - probably their 18 year old boyfriends or their 40 year old mothers ;)

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                                                                                    • abadfish
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                                                                                      • Jul 2003
                                                                                      • 1482
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by Libertine
                                                                                      Another fine example of conservative idiocy. For some reason, they seem to believe that not offering protection to teens will somehow stop them from having sex and will thus lower teen pregnancy and std rates
                                                                                      Exactly, it's completely backwards. Same thing that happens with condoms. Honestly I also compare this to the war on drugs and the war on terror. Totally backwards approaches to solving these problems.

                                                                                      Comparing the morning after pill to abortion is absolutely insane. If a person is already "pregnant" then the pill will not even work.
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                                                                                        • pocketkangaroo
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                                                                                          • Jan 2005
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                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          I remember when conservatives believed in less government.

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                                                                                            • Libertine
                                                                                              sex dwarf
                                                                                              • May 2002
                                                                                              • 17860
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by Scootermuze
                                                                                              Raising 2 daughters made it a very tough question...

                                                                                              It's not that I disagree with you.. On the face of it all you're definitely right..

                                                                                              But when you're looking at your teenage daughters and trying to figure out the best way to handle it, it's not easy admitting that they're gonna have sex and I need to make sure they do it right..

                                                                                              But then my oldest (15 at the time) came home from the health clinic one day with a sack full of condoms that they had given to her..

                                                                                              They're both 30-somethin' now, but there's a granddaughter to deal with... Pleeeeeeze make it stop!!
                                                                                              I know, it's not easy admitting your daughters will have sex. Hell, I have two little sisters, and the day they come home with boyfriends is the day I'll buy a gun.

                                                                                              But really, denying reality is not a good strategy for dealing with these issues. Teen girls have sex, and there is nothing you can do about that. Promoting abstinence simply does not work, so the only thing you can do is to make sure that they know all there is to know about safe sex, so that when they do decide to have sex, at least they don't get knocked up or infected with some std.
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                                                                                                • nAtuRaLbEautY
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                                                                                                  yeah, i guess so...
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                                                                                                        • bausch
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                                                                                                          Sex is highly overrated.
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                                                                                                            • Peaches
                                                                                                              Old broad
                                                                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                                                                              • 13933
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              My Dad said he almost cried when I said I was pregnant. It proof that his little girl was actually having sex ;)

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                                                                                                                • Marshal
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                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  this is very very stupid of them!
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                                                                                                                        • C_U_Next_Tuesday
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                                                                                                                          • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                          • 10581
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Alls the morning after pill is is a higher dosage of the birth control pill. My gyno had me take 4 pills in the morning and 4 pills in the evening from a BC pack when the condoms broke right after having my last child.. right before getting my tubes tied.

                                                                                                                          Kids are having sex..withholding education and safe sex prectices from them only creates the problems we have now.

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                                                                                                                            • Peaches
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                                                                                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                              • 13933
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by C_U_Next_Tuesday
                                                                                                                              Alls the morning after pill is is a higher dosage of the birth control pill. My gyno had me take 4 pills in the morning and 4 pills in the evening from a BC pack when the condoms broke right after having my last child.. right before getting my tubes tied.

                                                                                                                              Kids are having sex..withholding education and safe sex prectices from them only creates the problems we have now.
                                                                                                                              Exactly, so a 16 year old could walk into planned parenthood, get a box of pills, take 4 in the morning, 4 in the evening and problem solved.

                                                                                                                              Then again, that same 16 year old can go into Planned Parenthood and start taking the pill and elimate the need for "Plan B".

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                                                                                                                                • Drake
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                                                                                                                                  • Mar 2003
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                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Scootermuze
                                                                                                                                  Or.. they believe that giving easy access to it will send the message that it's ok to have sex... ..

                                                                                                                                  Kinda hard to say which is the best direction to go.. .
                                                                                                                                  There are already a thousand other things sending the message that it's ok to have sex. TV, Games, Computers, and their peers. Giving them easy access to contraceptives merely provides them with a source of protection for what they would already do with or without it.
                                                                                                                                  Last edited by Drake; 08-26-2006, 12:16 PM.

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                                                                                                                                    • DutchTeenCash
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                                                                                                                                      • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                                      • 21684
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Babagirls
                                                                                                                                      ya its sad, isnt it?? now, this was back in hmm....i'd say 1996'ish (give or take a year) that i took that 2 classes in high school. no condoms. just basically talked about std's. now, me being a safe & newly sexually active gal at that time ( i was 16), I ALWAYS carried condoms with me, every where. My ex fuck buddy, a few yrs ago made a comment one night when I was pulling out a condom before our 'session' and he said "you carry condoms like most people carry a lighter." that made me smile. thats what all teens need to do, too.

                                                                                                                                      when did you go to school? maybe things changed since I was there...
                                                                                                                                      Im older then you are sex education is in the first HS class normally, which makes you approx 12-13 here. I still remember it, like Libertine said (yes Im dutch) even then stuff bout STDs Aids etc mornin after pil condoms - we all had that, thats pretty common since yes Holland is pretty liberal bout that.

                                                                                                                                      Most ppl here I know carry them.

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                                                                                                                                        • E$_manager
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                                                                                                                                          • Apr 2006
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                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Of course they need those pills, but they also need to know how dangerouse it is.
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                                                                                                                                            • Fizzgig
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                                                                                                                                              • Feb 2004
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                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              16 and pregnant is not a comfortable position.
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                                                                                                                                                • Romeo GaySearch4Sex
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                                                                                                                                                  • Mar 2006
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                                                                                                                                                  its interesting.....

                                                                                                                                                  countries where there is good sex education, better access to contraceptives AND good access to planned parenthood type services (which is not the case in a lot of the US, esp rural areas) there are LOWER rates of Abortions

                                                                                                                                                  I'm pro-choice, pro morning afterpill, etc... but having an abortion for a woman can be both emotionally and physically painful.

                                                                                                                                                  I wish we could focus on more on educating people, keeping them safe and preventing unwanted pregnancies and children, rather than restricting abortion and the morning after pill.

                                                                                                                                                  I also find it funny many republicans will campaign against abortion rights, yet before it was legal in the US, rich republicans (and democrats) would send their daughters overseas to get an abortion if they got pregnant out of wedlock.

                                                                                                                                                  Hey, also why not put more money to adoption programs, keeping foster kids safer and letting gays adopt in more states?
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                                                                                                                                                    • minusonebit
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                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Will be just like smokes and booze... send someone older to buy it for you.

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                                                                                                                                                        • E$_manager
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                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by minusonebit
                                                                                                                                                          Will be just like smokes and booze... send someone older to buy it for you.
                                                                                                                                                          THis is true.
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                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Fizzgig
                                                                                                                                                              16 and pregnant is not a comfortable position.
                                                                                                                                                              yes, first abortion is the most dangerouse.
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                                                                                                                                                                  I bet people will be selling that stuff at a profit to people under 18.

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                                                                                                                                                                    • blazi
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                                                                                                                                                                      my response to this is they don't really care if women under 18 use the pill, they simply don't want to give the impression that they are promoting it

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                                                                                                                                                                        • E$_manager
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                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          why should government or medical ministery peomote it?
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