I cant believe they are showing that POS docu Loose Change on frigging tv now!

The past couple weeks there have been tons of shows about 9/11. The 5 year anniversary is coming up.

I'm not a conspiracy nut by any stretch, but I found some of it interesting. I'm all for getting as many points of view as possible before I make any definitive conclusions.

The real problem as I see it with documentaries like these (and films by Michael Moore) is that people take what they say as definitive fact and base their opinions on it without doing any OTHER research. Or if they do, they immediately write off differing points of view as a conspiracy, and similiar points of view as conclusive evidence.

I am highly entertained by the people who really back these "conspiracy" movies and instead of sharing any real knowledge, they'll come back with "hey buddy, just keep watching Fox news!" I've gotten that a couple times, I've never watched Fox news in my life and very rarely watch CNN, LOL.

There's really nothing wrong with watching FOXnews (which I don't) or CNN (which I do). The problem is people aren't smart enough to believe that even on TV there may just be an agenda or a bias. GETTING the news from virtually any source I don't have a problem with. BELIEVING it from any ONE source is just foolish. Hell, I get some news from Jon Stewart. But I also know he's putting a comedic spin on it. So if the story interests me, I'll go elsewhere and look into it further.

Like you said, it's funny when people argue "Facts" and their ONLY source is Fox, CNN or even worse, an independent documentary.

I'm surprised to see you actually acknowledging that shit stinks in regards to 9/11.

I too agree much of loose change has holes in it.

However there are a few things that I feel are extremely suspect and need further explaining.

1.) Multiple "secondary explosions" reported in WTC 1 & 2 (reported by fire dept personel) prior to the towers collapsing.

2.) WTC 7 collapsing ... this building really has no excuse for being folded like a pancake.

3.) The fact that a plane ripped all those light poles out of the ground on its approach and then proceeded to blow a hole through like 5 massive re-inforced concrete sections of the Pentagon. (not too mention there is video evidence of what happened that we have not been shown).

Those circumstances are extremely suspect.

diggz: Dumping all bullshit and conspiracy theories - let's get real.

An aircraft hitting a steel framework as used in the towers, and even if that aircraft is fully loaded with fuel - does not cause the complete structure to collapse. No such framework has ever collapsed anywhere in the world under what is still a relatively small/medium impact.

There is also a problem with the laws of gravity Buildings don't blow out at various levels and of their own accord - they collapse downwards.

The investigation of whole thing is a joke and there is little transparency. Inevitably with that level of crass "evidence", - sure, there's going to be conspiracy theories floating about - never fails. Do sponsors shave??

i thought it was well done

Maddox' opinion LOL:
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse....i?u=911_morons

The problem with loose change is the immaturity of the people who made it.

They mix VERY VALID points with some of the more absured far-fetch conspiracy theories.

This allows the bush-believing retards to attack the far-fetched stuff in the video, and never respond to valid points such as the WTC falling at freefall speed (impossable without explosives, thousands of tons of steel and concrete wouldnt instantly dissolve - even if a plane could have brought down the World Trade Center, , the floors below the impact point would have accounted for at least a few seconds of resistence as they broke apart).

But, now the idiots who believe the governments story dont even feel the need to address simple problems like this because the lies that are in plain sight have been dylooted by all the more far-fetched theories.

Really the 9/11 'truth' movement is split in half - some are focused on the science and obvious lies from the government.

The other half is idiots who buy into anything, and theyre making the first half look bad.

You yourself make the whole "first half" look bad in this very post. Anybody who disagrees with the video is a Bush-believing idiot to you.

Yes, anyone who disagrees with EVERY SINGLE POINT is a bush-believing idiot.

Those who watch the video and say 'some of this makes sense, but some of this is bullshit' would be correct.

Read up and I clearly explained that the video dylooted valid points by mixing them with more far-fetched ones.

I don't get whats so confusing, im saying as a whole the video sucks, but it doesnt make *all* the theories invalid.