Do Free sites make as much money as tgp galleries?

**Sly** · 08-19-2006, 04:56 PM

I had some software created to manage the recips. It will save you time. But from my experience, no, galleries are much more profitable if you can get listed. Free sites are much easier to get listed.

**Waveu6410** · 08-19-2006, 04:57 PM

i would think thats impossible to know

**pornboat** · 08-19-2006, 04:58 PM

he's right. galleries do seem to make more.

**Rankings** · 08-19-2006, 04:59 PM

post some of your free sites if you have them, i want to compare it to what they used to be

**Aquarius** · 08-19-2006, 04:59 PM

Originally posted by Sly

I had some software created to manage the recips. It will save you time. But from my experience, no, galleries are much more profitable if you can get listed. Free sites are much easier to get listed.

I would be interested in it too. Care to share more details?

**Sly** · 08-19-2006, 05:05 PM

Basically I upload a free site to a directory with recip identifier tags. I type the location of the free site into my script along with a few keywords. The script copies the free site, replaces the identifier tags, and creates a new directory based free site as many times as needed to fulfill the database. The naming of the directories is based on the keywords I input.

**blazi** · 08-19-2006, 05:14 PM

all depends on the quality of the content really and layout, and of course if reviewers like the galleries

**Quotealex** · 08-19-2006, 05:26 PM

Originally posted by niceanice

Do they make more?
theyre a lot more work with all of the recip maintence and no software to manage it all, so I wondered if theyre worth all the work

Sure there is a software to manage all the LL recips and fill out LL forms. Check my sig and look for Free Site Wizard

**niceanice** · 08-19-2006, 05:34 PM

Originally posted by Sly

I type the location of the free site into my script

How do I get a script like this?

**niceanice** · 08-19-2006, 05:38 PM

Originally posted by Alex from Montreal

Sure there is a software to manage all the LL recips and fill out LL forms. Check my sig and look for Free Site Wizard

I had Freesite Wizard version 3.0.1 and I hated it.
I dont know if the most recent version is a lot better. If it is Ill check it out

**Miguel T** · 08-19-2006, 05:56 PM

Bumping for some more replies... also interested...

**Sly** · 08-19-2006, 06:14 PM

Originally posted by niceanice

How do I get a script like this?

I'd be willing to sell it. Send me an email and we can talk further. For the subject put "GFY: Free site script".

**Sly** · 08-19-2006, 06:15 PM

I forgot to mention, my script also supports multiple niches and a weighting system. So for example, you can set Green Guys and Hoes to a scale of 10 and it would group them together.

**Quotealex** · 08-19-2006, 06:17 PM

Originally posted by niceanice

I had Freesite Wizard version 3.0.1 and I hated it.
I dont know if the most recent version is a lot better. If it is Ill check it out

What did you hate about it? It manage multiple recips per LL, duplicate pages with the right recips and fill out the LL forms with the right recip URL, and more.

**siccmade** · 08-19-2006, 06:19 PM

I used to use Advanced Submitter to submit my free sites, and I never had any problems. Great software!

Freesite traffic converts great too.

**Doctor Dre** · 08-19-2006, 06:54 PM

Originally posted by Sly

I'd be willing to sell it. Send me an email and we can talk further. For the subject put "GFY: Free site script".

What's your email ? I'd be interested in that.

P.S. There is no money in freesites and tons of work, don't bother.

**Sly** · 08-19-2006, 06:55 PM

[email protected] will get me.

**fuzebox** · 08-19-2006, 07:03 PM

Originally posted by Sly

I'd be willing to sell it. Send me an email and we can talk further. For the subject put "GFY: Free site script".

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**DirtyProfits** · 08-19-2006, 07:13 PM

Do apples taste as good as bananas? Depends...

In my opinion you can't say one or the other makes more money.
Link lists / free sites have better filtered traffic but tgps send out a lot more traffic. It depends if you know what you're doing or not. With free sites you should be good at seo because that's the traffic that will make the most signups but you can get as good se traffic results with galleries too.
I had galleries that converted 1:3000 visitors (not clicks) and galleries that did 1:70000.

Galleries will make you more money in a short time but in the long run you can have more success with free sites if done right.

**niceanice** · 08-20-2006, 02:05 AM

Originally posted by siccmade

I used to use Advanced Submitter to submit my free sites, and I never had any problems. Great software!

Freesite traffic converts great too.

are they still active? I visited their site and their message board and noone's posted in months.
and I went to see how much their LL database is an I got a 404

**SmutGiant** · 08-20-2006, 02:19 AM

When you look at the big picture, over a year or two the average free site would make much more than the average gallery.

**Antonio** · 08-20-2006, 02:40 AM

free sites MIGHT make more in the long run

btw 100% free software to make and submit your free sites - Adam submitter, get the LL submitter for free sites. It can manage your category recips, niches, build the sites (using your template), you name it...

That's what I use and it works 100%, not sure how up to date their DB is though coz I have my own, cleaned the dead LLs, added some etc

good luck

**Theo** · 08-20-2006, 02:49 AM

of course they do, but this is one of the things you repeat to others and never get it.

**aico** · 08-20-2006, 02:55 AM

Yes, if not more.

**Hooligan** · 08-20-2006, 03:01 AM

if done right, here are the average traffic stats for freesites and galleries:

Free site - will get about 10k uniques.
Thumb gallery - will get 800k uniques.

You do the math.

**aico** · 08-20-2006, 03:06 AM

Originally posted by Hooligan

if done right, here are the average traffic stats for freesites and galleries:

Free site - will get about 10k uniques.
Thumb gallery - will get 800k uniques.

You do the math.

Too bad it's not that simple...

**s2kcord** · 08-20-2006, 03:18 AM

The way I look at it I make a freesite and two galleries.

**s2kcord** · 08-20-2006, 03:21 AM

Originally posted by aico

Too bad it's not that simple...

You must have never done any hard labor in your life.

**Martin** · 08-20-2006, 03:33 AM

A network of free sites with make more money then galleries over time.. I still have free sites from 3-4 years ago that still get hits.

**niceanice** · 08-20-2006, 03:35 AM

Originally posted by Hooligan

if done right, here are the average traffic stats for freesites and galleries:

Free site - will get about 10k uniques.
Thumb gallery - will get 800k uniques.

You do the math.

what math?
what does that have to do with sales?

**aico** · 08-20-2006, 04:41 AM

Originally posted by s2kcord

You must have never done any hard labor in your life.

Let's see, when I was 13 - 16 years old I was clearing 5+ acre lots with a weed eater, worked on a golf course picking up range balls with a hand caddy, and I worked as a bailer (throwing hay bails into the truck) every summer.

I worked construction from age 16 - 21. Laborer, framer, & concrete.

I worked for a moving company for 8 months

I worked for a roofing company for 3 months.

I bet I have worked more hard labor than you. But, regardless, what the fuck does that have to do with anything?

**ilbb** · 08-20-2006, 05:34 AM

it all depends on how much traffic You are able to drive to your galleries or freesites...freesites converts better

**maxidrom11** · 08-20-2006, 07:09 AM

galleries better

**DomainBrands** · 08-20-2006, 07:12 AM

This shouldn't even really be a debate.

The content you use on your galleries, should also be used on free sites. Do both. Maximize your content.

**Martin** · 08-20-2006, 09:02 AM

Originally posted by DomainBrands

This shouldn't even really be a debate.

The content you use on your galleries, should also be used on free sites. Do both. Maximize your content.

bingo....

**Quagmire** · 08-20-2006, 09:24 AM

Originally posted by Martin

A network of free sites with make more money then galleries over time.. I still have free sites from 3-4 years ago that still get hits.

Bingo.

**detoxed** · 08-20-2006, 09:42 AM

Some do, some dont, for one, there is no fixed number that either will make, its up to who makes and markets them.

**KrisKross** · 08-20-2006, 09:46 AM

Originally posted by DomainBrands

This shouldn't even really be a debate.

The content you use on your galleries, should also be used on free sites. Do both. Maximize your content.

Exactly. I slap together a quick gallery with the creatives I used for the freesite and then load it in an autosubmitter. Takes an extra 15 mins max to make to gallery and puts a few more dollars in my pocket.

**NTSS** · 08-20-2006, 09:58 AM

Free sites get more and better quality traffic in the long run...

**niceanice** · 08-20-2006, 03:10 PM

Originally posted by Martin

A network of free sites with make more money then galleries over time.. I still have free sites from 3-4 years ago that still get hits.

thanks appreciate the feedback

**master_design** · 08-20-2006, 03:33 PM

Originally posted by DomainBrands

This shouldn't even really be a debate.

The content you use on your galleries, should also be used on free sites. Do both. Maximize your content.

Bump for You!!

**aico** · 08-20-2006, 05:03 PM

Originally posted by DomainBrands

This shouldn't even really be a debate.

The content you use on your galleries, should also be used on free sites. Do both. Maximize your content.

You forgot AVS. I get 1 AVS, 1 Free and Two TGPs out of each set, all using the same thumbs and images...

**shermo** · 08-20-2006, 06:09 PM

A combo of both is the best plan for maximizing your income. As far as picking one, I'd have to go with galleries...But only because I've been in that game since 99. I wouldn't want to start now.

Do Free sites make as much money as tgp galleries?

Do Free sites make as much money as tgp galleries?

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