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08-11-2006, 05:08 PM

Originally posted by Sagi_AFF

Let's try something different. Tell me what you would do in my shoes? Keep in mind that I do know what the URLs in question are or have access to Google's spider.

In a perfect world I would be able to guess the URLs but if that was the case I'd probably be buying a lotto ticket right now instead.

Let's try something different. It is obvious that we are experiencing a communication block here so let me clear up a few things.

1. I am not talking about the SpaceDog situation specifically.

2. Being proactive is the key here.

Main Entry: pro·ac·tive
Pronunciation: (")prO-'ak-tiv
Function: adjective
1 [1pro-] : relating to, caused by, or being interference between previous learning and the recall or performance of later learning <proactive inhibition of memory>
2 [2pro- + reactive] : acting in anticipation of future problems, needs, or changes
- pro·ac·tive·ly adverb

3. I told you exactly what I would do if I were in your "shoes".

Originally posted by fr0gman

Pledge 10 man-hours a week to proactively pursuing the content thieves and scammers and then post a list of those that were removed.

Would that be so complicated or too expensive for a program like AFF?

Just do the right thing man... stop hiding behind policy and legal refuge and do something to demonstrate to the webmaster community that AFF is not in bed with scammers, because the great majority of the AFF posts seem to suggest otherwise.

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#52

08-11-2006, 05:31 PM

Wow..

lot's of response..

Ok.. Sagi.. no complaint to be made in regards to aff as your affiliate is not breaking any of your rules, but is personally offending me & not your program, so no action need be taken on your part.

As far as the rest goes, Google is deleting the offending domain from its index
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#53

08-11-2006, 05:33 PM

Originally posted by spacedog

Wow..

lot's of response..

Ok.. Sagi.. no complaint to be made in regards to aff as your affiliate is not breaking any of your rules, but is personally offending me & not your program, so no action need be taken on your part.

As far as the rest goes, Google is deleting the offending domain from its index

Not only domains,,,, I'm suffering from their new rules.
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#54

08-11-2006, 05:36 PM

Originally posted by fr0gman

Let's try something different. It is obvious that we are experiencing a communication block here so let me clear up a few things.

1. I am not talking about the SpaceDog situation specifically.

2. Being proactive is the key here.

Main Entry: pro·ac·tive
Pronunciation: (")prO-'ak-tiv
Function: adjective
1 [1pro-] : relating to, caused by, or being interference between previous learning and the recall or performance of later learning <proactive inhibition of memory>
2 [2pro- + reactive] : acting in anticipation of future problems, needs, or changes
- pro·ac·tive·ly adverb

3. I told you exactly what I would do if I were in your "shoes".

Would that be so complicated or too expensive for a program like AFF?

Just do the right thing man... stop hiding behind policy and legal refuge and do something to demonstrate to the webmaster community that AFF is not in bed with scammers, because the great majority of the AFF posts seem to suggest otherwise.

Sorry I didn't know you weren't talking about Spacedog's situation. Thanks for clearing that up.

For what it's worth we actually have a large abuse team and in addition to that we have someone that is full time working on affiliate abuse only. He is readily available and bans affiliates daily. He uses many methods (that I can't share) to catch the violators.

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#55

08-11-2006, 05:36 PM

Originally posted by damian2001

I know it moraly wrong, but whats the legal issue here?

Is it a copyright violation?

I dont think anyone would can an afffiliate for whats basicly just good blackhat SEO

I hate it when I have to agree with you.
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#56

08-11-2006, 05:36 PM

Who let the dog out ?????

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08-11-2006, 05:41 PM

Originally posted by baddog

I hate it when I have to agree with you.

Ok, then you wont mind If I have the first 80 listings in google from #1 to #80 for Gotwebhost.com ???
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08-11-2006, 05:41 PM

yeah just seem like someone laid the seo hammer down harder than you did.

It's fair game mate.

but the first 80 results...

he meant serious business!

is the keyword/s a major high traffic keyword? if it is then someone or some people are going to be competing for that/those keyword/s anyway.

I bet you didnt put a lock on your results & that's why you got drilled so hard.

but I can't imagine it being a major keyword because 80 people/results got wiped out/replaced!

In my opinion & not that you asked for it... you can learn exactly what he did or contact him and see if he'll sign up as an affiliate for 1 of your sites if you have a program.

but with just the little info you posted I could find the exact keywords in 48 hours max if I wanted too.

so if the keywords are converting that well then I wouldnt post this kind of info. It's a just a competiton invitation and if someone is better at seo than you then you already know what can happen.

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#59

08-11-2006, 05:42 PM

Originally posted by spacedog

Wow..

lot's of response..

Ok.. Sagi.. no complaint to be made in regards to aff as your affiliate is not breaking any of your rules, but is personally offending me & not your program, so no action need be taken on your part.

As far as the rest goes, Google is deleting the offending domain from its index

Thanks for clearing that up. As I meantioned earlier I didn't suspect that you wanted something done from us as you didn't come to us first. I know you would have at least tried to get our attention before creating a drama thread about us. I only jumped in when people started saying that we don't care as long as we profit. Thanks again.

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#60

08-11-2006, 05:45 PM

Originally posted by King of Queens

yeah just seem like someone laid the seo hammer down harder than you did.

It's fair game mate.

but the first 80 results...

he meant serious business!

is the keyword/s a major high traffic keyword? if it is then someone or some people are going to be competing for that/those keyword/s anyway.

I bet you didnt put a lock on your results & that's why you got drilled so hard.

but I can't imagine it being a major keyword because 80 people/results got wiped out/replaced!

In my opinion & not that you asked for it... you can learn exactly what he did or contact him and see if he'll sign up as an affiliate for 1 of your sites if you have a program.

but with just the little info you posted I could find the exact keywords in 48 hours max if I wanted too.

so if the keywords are converting that well then I wouldnt post this kind of info. It's a just a competiton invitation and if someone is better at seo than you then you already know what can happen.

Understandable & if we were talking about a keyword such as porn or sex, etc then I agree with you 100%, but in this particular situation I am refering to a domainname.com as the keyword & it is not a generic domain name.
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#61

08-11-2006, 05:50 PM

Originally posted by spacedog

Ok, then you wont mind If I have the first 80 listings in google from #1 to #80 for Gotwebhost.com ???

Off course he would be pissed - but pissed at the right people - as it seems you are . It seemed to go of track and turned into an AFF bitch session, which obviously wasnt your intention.
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#62

08-11-2006, 05:52 PM

Originally posted by spacedog

I am at the point where I find more people stealing & copying my shit & taking from me, I'm gonna start sending people to their doors & fucking smashing their fucking kneecaps.. I had it with fucking cheating, thieving cocksuckers.. Fucking first one, I'll pay even double to make sure it's videotaped so I can broadcast it to make an example of the fucker!!

I am fucking done playing nice guy!!!

Fuck me & I'll Fuck you & make you wish you never fucked me!!

Hahahah, seriously, go on with your bad self.

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#63

08-11-2006, 05:53 PM

Originally posted by Sagi_AFF

Sorry I didn't know you weren't talking about Spacedog's situation. Thanks for clearing that up.

For what it's worth we actually have a large abuse team and in addition to that we have someone that is full time working on affiliate abuse only. He is readily available and bans affiliates daily. He uses many methods (that I can't share) to catch the violators.

As I pointed out it would be HUGE if you guys posted a list of dead affiliates. People would be sending you cards and candy and wine and soiled undies and such...

Promote your aduse team man... get the word out.

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08-11-2006, 06:06 PM

Originally posted by spacedog

Understandable & if we were talking about a keyword such as porn or sex, etc then I agree with you 100%, but in this particular situation I am refering to a domainname.com as the keyword & it is not a generic domain name.

ok,

Originally posted by spacedog

As far as the rest goes, Google is deleting the offending domain from its index

I'm glad to see google is going to fix the situation

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08-11-2006, 07:41 PM

Originally posted by spacedog

Ok, then you wont mind If I have the first 80 listings in google from #1 to #80 for Gotwebhost.com ???

Good point!
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#66

08-11-2006, 09:50 PM

Originally posted by spacedog

Fucking theiving piece of shit, cheating fucking cocksucking whore..

i'm happy it's not me...

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#67

08-11-2006, 10:18 PM

Originally posted by fr0gman

As I pointed out it would be HUGE if you guys posted a list of dead affiliates. ..

Yes you are quite right. AFF should publish a daily list of all canned affiliates. Not just affiliate IDs but name, address, email, epassporte, wire info, SS# etc to prove to you that they really do have a fraud/abuse department because all Sponsors except AFF publish such information.
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08-11-2006, 11:26 PM

Originally posted by spacedog

Ok, then you wont mind If I have the first 80 listings in google from #1 to #80 for Gotwebhost.com ???

If you have the skills to get those SERP's, then we will hire you to do our SEO.
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08-11-2006, 11:30 PM

beggining of drama here
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08-12-2006, 12:12 AM

Originally posted by spacedog

Ok, then you wont mind If I have the first 80 listings in google from #1 to #80 for Gotwebhost.com ???

It suddenly hit me, you are concerned because if someone does a search for yourdomain.com someone else has the higher SERP's.

My question is this, if someone goes to Google and does a search for yourdomain.com instead of just going there, do you really think they are a surfer that are going to spend any money? That sounds like a pretty dumb surfer to me, and I am not entirely sure I would miss them.
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08-12-2006, 12:33 AM

Originally posted by baddog

It suddenly hit me, you are concerned because if someone does a search for yourdomain.com someone else has the higher SERP's.

My question is this, if someone goes to Google and does a search for yourdomain.com instead of just going there, do you really think they are a surfer that are going to spend any money? That sounds like a pretty dumb surfer to me, and I am not entirely sure I would miss them.

you offer seo services & find this surprising or think they want/dont spend money?

are you not aware of just how many surfers/actual customers search for a domainname -/minus the wwwdot & dotcom?

the only way you could get more targeted in the this case is to type in/go to the actual site.

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08-12-2006, 12:39 AM

type google or myspace into your keyword tool...

hell since AFF is in this thread type adult friend finder into your keyword tool.

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08-12-2006, 05:23 AM

type google or myspace into your keyword tool...

hell since AFF is in this thread type adult friend finder into your keyword tool.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...e=off&q=google

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...er&btnG=Search

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...f&q=gotwebhost
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