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  • MikeVega
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    • Jul 2004
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    #51
    I believe in a power .. not sure what it is yet .


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    • Dirty F
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      • Jul 2001
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      #52
      Originally posted by CDSmith

      Thankfully on this board I don't see a whole lot of holy-rolling mindlessly-driven fundamentalist Christians preaching to the masses and rating everyone down for their lack of faith. However I DO see a lot of judgemental ridicule from the athiest side obviously attempting to bait those who believe into defending themselves.
      And i just explained why. Because IT IS ridiculous. Its fucking based on NOTHING...on air! People adjust their whole life based on air. How retarded can it get??

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      • L0rdJuni0r
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        #53
        I believe in God.
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        • CDSmith
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          • May 2001
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          #54
          Originally posted by Franck
          Just like you would call me nuts if i believed in the great pig who created mankind.

          Once again what is it based on your belief in god? A book? A book from the fucking stoneage written by a bunch of guys who smoked too much pot?

          What if they wrote about the great pig. Would that be your believe now? Your faith?

          What if you lived on an island and your parents died at birth you would not know about the bible or god and therefor not believe in it. You would make up for your own gods. Maybe the most ridiculous ones. Then after 20 years someone finds you, takes you to the "real world" and tell you about jesus. You would call him nuts and defend your god.

          Once again god is based on nothing. You just want to fill in the pieces you cant fill in and god is an easy excuse. I cant explain it so it must be god. There...now i dont have to think about it anymore...its explained.

          God is a weakness.
          Franck, no offense man but on this one particular issue you always turn into one huge classic fucktard, and I'm not sure why that is. Go look at my post again, where in it do I mention anything about my own beliefs?

          You obviously don't believe in a damned thing except yourself, and you know I'm just fine with that. I'm not going to sit here and cock off at you for believing that way, why do you feel the irresistable urge to do it to others?

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          • Dirty F
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            #55
            Originally posted by L0rdJuni0r
            I believe in God.
            Why?

            If i tell you i have 20 inch penis you would not believe me but you do believe in a power called god that created earth, the universe and mankind because a 2000 year old book says so. Thats fucked up.

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            • CDSmith
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              #56
              The people who say they believe sure do seem like a happier lot. I'm starting to wonder if "I'd rather laugh with the sinners and cry with the saints" is really such a cool lyric after all. :D
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              • CybermedAndy
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                • Jul 2004
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                #57
                Originally posted by Franck
                Honestly...i want to burn churches down. I just don't want to end up in jail. Thats the only reason i'm not doing it.
                Haha your Dutch roots are showing, actually I guess its Norway that spawns all the black metal bands who burn down the churches around there.

                Makes me want to donate to their defense funds

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                • RayVega
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Franck
                  Why?

                  If i tell you i have 20 inch penis you would not believe me but you do believe in a power called god that created earth, the universe and mankind because a 2000 year old book says so. Thats fucked up.

                  I gotta say, Not to piss anyone off...but, you are 100% right when you say that SOME people believe in this "book" blindly, and literally, and it's insane. If you read the bible (get James Earl Jones reading the new testament on your Ipod, it's pretty good), anyone with 1/2 a brain should know it's one big metaphor. The Bible, the word of Islam, Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism, paganism, and anyone else I forgot is just common fucking sense made into a mythological story. It's not meant to be taken literally. But some people, take these stories that teach common sense and believe them to the word...it's crazy.

                  it's common sense people, do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
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                  • geeksta
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                    #59
                    The fairer sex tend to be more believers than men. This is not sexist it is simply a fact, esp. here in USA. The simple fact is that more attention and encouragement is given to boys while in school in the areas of math and science. Several studies have been done about this that confirmed that in math and science classes boys are three times as more likely to be called upon to answer questions than girls. And really, girls have only had a few decades of equality in the area of math and science in classrooms, decades ago, girls were discouraged from taking advanced math and science courses when at that time the most important thing for girls was preparation to be a housewife.

                    Bottom line: Women tend to be more silly with these god beliefs than men are, across the board. No offense to those ladies out there with advanced math and science of course, but they also know I am right.

                    Advanced math and science skills = less god beliefs. That's just how it works. That's why you see more atheists in places like Europe and Japan than here.
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                    • Dirty F
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by geeksta
                      Advanced math and science skills = less god beliefs. That's just how it works. That's why you see more atheists in places like Europe and Japan than here.
                      It's also safe to say if you devide the world in 2 groups: High IQ and low IQ the latter will have WAY more believers.

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                      • Dirty F
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                        #61
                        It's no coincidence that the poor countries with lower iq'ed people in this world usually have a believing in a god % of up to 95%.

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                        • geeksta
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                          #62
                          Originally posted by Franck
                          It's also safe to say if you devide the world in 2 groups: High IQ and low IQ the latter will have WAY more believers.
                          Yah but IQ is not fixed, unless there is some sort of brain disability involved. IQ isn't really all that useful unless we are talking about someone severely disabled. Ever read any Stephen J. Gould? He has some interesting things to say about IQ and the validity/lack of validity of these measurements.

                          Teach people to think logically and critically and you will see a big jump in what you call IQ. The brain is like your other muscles it needs working out to form new neuron connections and so forth. That being said, people from countries with very strong math and science programs are less superstitious than places with weaker math and science programs.
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                          • Jace
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                            #63
                            it isn't that I do or don't believe, I am just too busy living and loving life to care

                            I figure I will find it all out when I die, so why worry about it now?

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                            • Dirty F
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                              #64
                              Originally posted by Jace
                              it isn't that I do or don't believe, I am just too busy living and loving life to care

                              I figure I will find it all out when I die, so why worry about it now?
                              Because you will burn in HELLLLLLLLLL you sinner!!!

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                              • Yngwie
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                                • May 2003
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                                #65
                                Originally posted by CDSmith
                                Oh yay, the same gaggle of non-believers with the same old bucket of insults and ridicule for those who choose to believe in something. Yippee.

                                When the day comes that everyone is just happy in whatever they believe (or don't believe) and can just shut the fuck up about what everyone else is believing, that's the day there will be a lot more peace on this spinning pile of shit we call Earth.

                                I agree with that 100%, but we both know that this is never going to happen, unfortunately. It's all this believing/non-believing that causes 99.9% of the worlds problems and it will continue to do so till this spinning pile of shit blows up.
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                                • Scootermuze
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                                  #66
                                  If you believe in God and are wrong, then it's no big deal,
                                  If you don't believe in God and are wrong... ....

                                  Someone wrote up a theory along that line...


                                  I say believe or don't believe.. your choice... but neither should
                                  ridicule the other for believing as they choose..

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                                  • sacX
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                                    #67
                                    Originally posted by CDSmith
                                    Funny how some athiests bash the believers for being too preachy, yet here they are doing the very same thing in the reverse. Ain't life among humans grand? :D
                                    Not really, they're usually being preachy as a reaction.
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                                    • sacX
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                                      #68
                                      I haven't heard an argument for the existence of God that I find compelling, until I do I won't believe.
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                                      • Alex
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                                        #69
                                        Originally posted by godisdead
                                        If God is almighty, can he create a stone he cannot lift?
                                        Can God make a burrito so hot that even he cannot eat it
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                                        • E$_manager
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                                          #70
                                          i believe in something superiour, let's call it God - some rules of life, karma.
                                          I believe that love is moremost.
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                                          • Alex
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                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by Martin
                                            No God. If there is, he's a total asshole.
                                            Originally posted by sacX
                                            I haven't heard an argument for the existence of God that I find compelling, until I do I won't believe.

                                            If you dont believe in God then why do you Capitilze the letter G in His name?
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                                            • sacX
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                                              #72
                                              Originally posted by Alex
                                              If you dont believe in God then why do you Capitilze the letter G in His name?
                                              To indicate that I'm talking about the Abrahamic God and not some random god. People are atheist for 99.9% of the gods out there, can I find any believers in Zeus?
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                                              • marcjacob
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                                                #73
                                                You see i fall into the "was brought up to believe" category. Its hard because you have trouble making your own mind up. It gets pumped into your head that if you dont accept it your off to hell, so everytime you try to make a decision it scares the fuck out of you (remember ive been tought this from birth, take the piss if you wish but its hard to break that).

                                                It feels to me a bit like brainwashing, alot actually, but that doesnt mean god isnt real.

                                                i think this is partly why i know do porn, sort of a rebelling against my parents.

                                                im gay too which makes things harder still.
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                                                • elron
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                                                  #74
                                                  Originally posted by BoyAlley
                                                  Bullshit!!!!
                                                  haha since when gays loved religion anyways
                                                  im with you buddy

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                                                  • sacX
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                                                    #75
                                                    Originally posted by RayVega
                                                    WOW, the "God"s are taking the lead...i'm shocked.

                                                    Not to offend anyone's beliefs but if you say "there's no God, no nothing, just chance" I think you are looking for attention. Anyone who has lived 30 years or more on this planet knows there's something holding together. Call it Karma, the force, whatever, but if you are "good, a relative term of course" , good things happen to you. It's just a fact of life. If you fuck people, you end up being misrable and getting fucked. fact of life. that's not chance.

                                                    i'm not saying it's a magic man in the sky either, but it's something.

                                                    .
                                                    If you're a bad person then it's likely this will catch up with you in some way. There's nothing mystical about that.

                                                    But the reality is, there is a lot of evil in the world, and BAD things happen to GOOD people all the time. It happens so often that it's hard to reconcile the existence of a powerful and compassionate god with it.

                                                    Check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_of_evil
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                                                    • elron
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                                                      #76
                                                      There is no god , it's a creation of some manipulative people who wanted by that to controll barbaric tribes over 2000 years ago . It was easier to controll other people by forcing them to submit to "god" rules .
                                                      It worked . 2000 years since then and this planet is filled with the same fools , only today we can clearly state that most of the worlds wars were caused on behalf of gods believers .

                                                      If the entire world were atheists like me , there were less racism , no "holy" wars , no women suppresion , and the world would look much happier .
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                                                      • Nessa85
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                                                        #77
                                                        http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=643443

                                                        im catholic and belive in miracles just never experenced one until last night.
                                                        i have a 2 yr old daughter (on 8-25) well, last night around mid-night and i had taken something away from her. she was sitting on the floor (hardwood), when she got mad she threw her head back and smacked it on the floor. naturaly she started screaming and with in 20 secs she was gasping for air and gurgaling. her eyes hazed over with a purple color. they rolled to the back of her head and went limp. she wasnt breathing. i screamed for her daddy. he came and tried to wake her up. we jumped in our car and headed for the hospital.we live less then 100 yards away. im not a dr. but i know when my child is with me and she wasnt. the whole way to the hospital i was giving her mouth-to-mouth. the whole time praying and thinking the worst, "am i going to bury my child". right b4 we get to the hospital she comes back, she was breathing and responsive. i dont know what happened but i do know that god answered my prayers.

                                                        p.s the dr said she passed out from crying. she has cried worse and nothing happened. any opinions.....

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                                                        • sacX
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                                                          #78
                                                          Originally posted by Nessa85
                                                          im catholic and belive in miracles just never experenced one until last night.
                                                          i have a 2 yr old daughter (on 8-25) well, last night around mid-night and i had taken something away from her. she was sitting on the floor (hardwood), when she got mad she threw her head back and smacked it on the floor. naturaly she started screaming and with in 20 secs she was gasping for air and gurgaling. her eyes hazed over with a purple color. they rolled to the back of her head and went limp. she wasnt breathing. i screamed for her daddy. he came and tried to wake her up. we jumped in our car and headed for the hospital.we live less then 100 yards away. im not a dr. but i know when my child is with me and she wasnt. the whole way to the hospital i was giving her mouth-to-mouth. the whole time praying and thinking the worst, "am i going to bury my child". right b4 we get to the hospital she comes back, she was breathing and responsive. i dont know what happened but i do know that god answered my prayers.

                                                          p.s the dr said she passed out from crying. she has cried worse and nothing happened. any opinions.....
                                                          I'm glad your daughter is ok, I can't imagine how terrifying that must have been, do I think God intervened from Heaven and brought your daughter back? no.

                                                          Why not? Partly because there are parents everyday who are not as lucky
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                                                          • Star 69
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                                                            #79
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                                                            • RayVega
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                                                              #80
                                                              Originally posted by Star 69
                                                              I believe I can fly, I believe I can touch the sky...
                                                              I think about it every night and day
                                                              Spread my wings and fly away

                                                              sorry, had to do it
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                                                              • Nessa85
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                                                                #81
                                                                Originally posted by sacX
                                                                I'm glad your daughter is ok, I can't imagine how terrifying that must have been, do I think God intervened from Heaven and brought your daughter back? no.

                                                                Why not? Partly because there are parents everyday who are not as lucky
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                                                                • geeksta
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                                                                  #82
                                                                  Originally posted by Scootermuze
                                                                  If you believe in God and are wrong, then it's no big deal,
                                                                  If you don't believe in God and are wrong... ....

                                                                  Someone wrote up a theory along that line...


                                                                  I say believe or don't believe.. your choice... but neither should
                                                                  ridicule the other for believing as they choose..
                                                                  Pascals Wager.

                                                                  And it's been debunked as an illogical argument.

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                                                                  • Star 69
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                                                                    #83
                                                                    Originally posted by RayVega
                                                                    I think about it every night and day
                                                                    Spread my wings and fly away

                                                                    sorry, had to do it
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                                                                    • RayVega
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                                                                      #84
                                                                      Originally posted by Star 69
                                                                      Np, be my guest.

                                                                      now I'm singing the fucking thing...jesus christ!
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                                                                        • Worldnet
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                                                                          #86
                                                                          Most deny it until the end, and then have a sudden change of heart. Wonder why?

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                                                                          • sacX
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                                                                            #87
                                                                            this poll should have had two options so no-one could cop out on the third.
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                                                                            • CDSmith
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                                                                              #88
                                                                              Originally posted by sacX
                                                                              Not really, they're usually being preachy as a reaction.
                                                                              Usually yes, but not on this board. On this board I've seen very few believers preaching and belittling and insulting the non-believers. In fact, the only time I HAVE seen that occur is when it's either a newly-reg'd bible thumper who just wandered in, or it's someone's idea of a fun fake nick thing to do for a day or two.

                                                                              But I can recall dozens and dozens of threads where the extremist athiests sit around posting the same old shit, same old ridicule and same old insults. In fact if the search is working, look up some keywords for this topic and I'll wager you'll find the same crop of names. (And you'll likely find me on a lot of those threads asking them why they can't just STFU and be happy and let others believe what they want)

                                                                              I just find it a bit odd that the athiests here are so rabid in their scoffing and attacking. I think if you're secure in the way you think then you really don't need to be so aggressive about bashing others for thinking or believing differently. Of course in 5 more years there will be 50-100 more threads just like this, and I'll be right here posting the same thing. (I've long ago earned the right to waste my time as I see fit :D )
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                                                                              • sacX
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                                                                                #89
                                                                                Originally posted by CDSmith
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                                                                                I just find it a bit odd that the athiests here are so rabid in their scoffing and attacking. I think if you're secure in the way you think then you really don't need to be so aggressive about bashing others for thinking or believing differently. Of course in 5 more years there will be 50-100 more threads just like this, and I'll be right here posting the same thing. (I've long ago earned the right to waste my time as I see fit :D )
                                                                                ah well it's just not GFY without some rabid scoffing
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                                                                                • Joe Citizen
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                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  Originally posted by Worldnet
                                                                                  Most deny it until the end, and then have a sudden change of heart. Wonder why?
                                                                                  Because they're cowards?

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                                                                                  • RayVega
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                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    looks like the "I believe in god"'s take it...I would have thought in this industry we would see more athiests take the lead. Well' here's a big fuck you to the Religious Right who think we are all a bunch of Goddless de-moralized heathens.
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                                                                                    • sacX
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                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      Originally posted by RayVega
                                                                                      looks like the "I believe in god"'s take it...I would have thought in this industry we would see more athiests take the lead. Well' here's a big fuck you to the Religious Right who think we are all a bunch of Goddless de-moralized heathens.
                                                                                      looks to me that more people don't believe in God! (43-42) although you have some hippies believing in a mysterious 'life force'
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                                                                                      • godisdead
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                                                                                        #93
                                                                                        Originally posted by CDSmith
                                                                                        Usually yes, but not on this board. On this board I've seen very few believers preaching and belittling and insulting the non-believers. In fact, the only time I HAVE seen that occur is when it's either a newly-reg'd bible thumper who just wandered in, or it's someone's idea of a fun fake nick thing to do for a day or two.
                                                                                        The thing is that non-believers are constantly harrassed with all sorts of crap. Intelligent Design, the anti-gay movement, and all these muslim fanatics are constantly pouring oil into the fire. No wonder atheists are pissed.

                                                                                        Originally posted by CDSmith
                                                                                        But I can recall dozens and dozens of threads where the extremist athiests sit around posting the same old shit, same old ridicule and same old insults.
                                                                                        The problem is that believers have no answers to the same old shit, yet they still believe in it. The whole issue should be settled for ages.

                                                                                        Being an extremist is nothing bad if your position is backed by reason. In fact it's necessary, that's called integrity. If 2 + 2 = 4 and I say so and stick to it being true, I am an extremist, too. The problem starts when people become extremists for no reason whatsoever and are just pissed if people show the big holes they have in their argumentation. The only way to stop this criticism would be by force. Extremist faith is the problem, which is yet another word for a violent hatred of reason. Voltaire said it very eloquently: "He who believes absurdities will commit atrocities."

                                                                                        If you choose to believe in something without any reason supporting it, you have to live with people ridiculing you for that.

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                                                                                        • RayVega
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                                                                                          #94
                                                                                          Pactically a dead heat between those who believe in "something" and those who claim not to...wow!
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                                                                                          • selena
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                                                                                            #95
                                                                                            I very much believe in God as I define it.
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