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08-11-2006, 10:42 AM

Authentic 2000 yr old ring worn by an actual Roman Soldier (Tenth Legion note the "X"), I got it from an archaeologist from Australia, and after much waiting it has arrived today. An independent expert looked at photo's of it and offered me decent cash for it, but it is now my new pinky ring.

While doing a dig in the Balkans they came across a battlefield where the Roman X Legion fought many uprisings in the (then) province of Moesia. They served in Jewish uprisings in Jerusalem and were active during the lifetime of Christ, and other provinces around the empire under such rulers as Augustus and Mark Anthony.

It is a very strange feeling to wear this soldier's ring knowing were he has been. very strange.

History lesson over...
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08-11-2006, 10:44 AM

define "decent cash"
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08-11-2006, 10:46 AM

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define "decent cash"

It cost me $30, I was offered $2,800

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08-11-2006, 10:46 AM

That's really cool!

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08-11-2006, 10:47 AM

really nice

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08-11-2006, 10:48 AM

you are now a roman soldier
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08-11-2006, 10:49 AM

nice...looks unique.
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08-11-2006, 10:51 AM

That is very very cool, bravo man on the sweet purchase..
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08-11-2006, 10:51 AM

How did you manage getting that for $30? Lucky!!

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08-11-2006, 10:52 AM

cool... is it gold?

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08-11-2006, 10:52 AM

Thats so cool dude.... being a history fan, I really enjoy hearing about things like this

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08-11-2006, 10:55 AM

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08-11-2006, 10:55 AM

Originally posted by RayVega

It is a very strange feeling to wear this soldier's ring knowing were he has been. very strange.

History lesson over...
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08-11-2006, 10:56 AM

Wow I'm actually kinda jealous!
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08-11-2006, 10:57 AM

wow, you must have some hookups
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08-11-2006, 11:02 AM

congrats, cesear
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08-11-2006, 11:03 AM

Originally posted by Honez

How did you manage getting that for $30? Lucky!!

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BTW, it's bronze, which is typical for a working man (soldier) only aristicrats were allowed to wear gold and silver, and only voting citizens and soldiers were allowed to wear rings at all. They actually had strict rules and laws about rings.

This particular ring is worn on the pinky finger high up between the 2nd and 3rd knuckle, not all the way down to the hand like we do today, as not to get in the way of the sword.

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08-11-2006, 11:04 AM

i got a dude over on 10th who can make you one for 40$

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08-11-2006, 11:04 AM

Very cool.

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08-11-2006, 11:06 AM

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08-11-2006, 11:07 AM

thats great ringo.

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08-11-2006, 11:10 AM

Originally posted by Chris

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08-11-2006, 11:20 AM

fuckin' sweet man!
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08-11-2006, 11:38 AM

Cool. But I have read that the soldiers did not wear ANY jewlery that would say what group they were with.

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08-11-2006, 11:39 AM

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08-11-2006, 11:53 AM

your ring looks fake as hell
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08-11-2006, 11:53 AM

dude that is fuckin bad ass! looks pretty cool too, but the story behind it is awesome

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08-11-2006, 11:55 AM

Originally posted by Jesus H Christ

Nice personal treasure! Not to one up you, but here is mine.

10 years ago I started to collect all the sniper rifles from WWII era. I came across this rifle in an estate sale and the old lady never new what she had. I bought the rife for $100, but I truly did not know what I had either. In 1938-39 the Russians send 6 million troops to Finland to expand the empire. The Fins only had an army of 300k and well the Fins beat the living crap out of the Russians. The Russian pulled back due to losing a million men and most of their equipment in the mountain passes and snow. The Fins were known for capturing Russian sniper rifles and customizing them to their preference.

I found out that my rifle was a captured rifle that was used by a Finish sniper. With the rifle came a logbook with the rifle identification number, cleaning, and personal info log. I tried to translate the log, but it kept mentioning ?broken sticks? all the time. I later found out that this term was used for killed Russian soldiers. The Rifle I purchased has 43 ?broken sticks? in its log book with the dates.

These shots were at a 100 meters with factory surp ammo.

Stalin was so outraged about the defeat he killed most of his top generals and due to this Germany launched its invasion in Russia. You can read more info if you like here. also, the worlds best sniper is Finnish with over 500 kills.

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cool find, but the ring is cooler because it's so old.

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08-11-2006, 11:59 AM

no offense but you're a horrible sniper.... better stick with close range handguns

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Nice personal treasure! Not to one up you, but here is mine.

10 years ago I started to collect all the sniper rifles from WWII era. I came across this rifle in an estate sale and the old lady never new what she had. I bought the rife for $100, but I truly did not know what I had either. In 1938-39 the Russians send 6 million troops to Finland to expand the empire. The Fins only had an army of 300k and well the Fins beat the living crap out of the Russians. The Russian pulled back due to losing a million men and most of their equipment in the mountain passes and snow. The Fins were known for capturing Russian sniper rifles and customizing them to their preference.

I found out that my rifle was a captured rifle that was used by a Finish sniper. With the rifle came a logbook with the rifle identification number, cleaning, and personal info log. I tried to translate the log, but it kept mentioning ?broken sticks? all the time. I later found out that this term was used for killed Russian soldiers. The Rifle I purchased has 43 ?broken sticks? in its log book with the dates.

These shots were at a 100 meters with factory surp ammo.

Stalin was so outraged about the defeat he killed most of his top generals and due to this Germany launched its invasion in Russia. You can read more info if you like here. also, the worlds best sniper is Finnish with over 500 kills.

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08-11-2006, 12:02 PM

that is really cool, any chance of getting more of them?

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08-11-2006, 12:07 PM

Originally posted by RayVega

Authentic 2000 yr old ring worn by an actual Roman Soldier

That's a cool ring! Wearing that must be a great feeling. Congrats!
What's it made of?

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08-11-2006, 12:14 PM

Originally posted by Jesus H Christ

Nice personal treasure! Not to one up you, but here is mine.

10 years ago I started to collect all the sniper rifles from WWII era. I came across this rifle in an estate sale and the old lady never new what she had. I bought the rife for $100, but I truly did not know what I had either. In 1938-39 the Russians send 6 million troops to Finland to expand the empire. The Fins only had an army of 300k and well the Fins beat the living crap out of the Russians. The Russian pulled back due to losing a million men and most of their equipment in the mountain passes and snow. The Fins were known for capturing Russian sniper rifles and customizing them to their preference.

I found out that my rifle was a captured rifle that was used by a Finish sniper. With the rifle came a logbook with the rifle identification number, cleaning, and personal info log. I tried to translate the log, but it kept mentioning ?broken sticks? all the time. I later found out that this term was used for killed Russian soldiers. The Rifle I purchased has 43 ?broken sticks? in its log book with the dates.

These shots were at a 100 meters with factory surp ammo.

Stalin was so outraged about the defeat he killed most of his top generals and due to this Germany launched its invasion in Russia. You can read more info if you like here. also, the worlds best sniper is Finnish with over 500 kills.

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08-11-2006, 12:21 PM

Originally posted by pornguy

Cool. But I have read that the soldiers did not wear ANY jewlery that would say what group they were with.

Pornguy, That is True for earlier legions during the time of the republic, before the empire but later that changed, and also greek soldiers were forbidden from wearing rings I believe (not 100%). but that may be what you were thinking about.

In fact, a soldier's ring often was crude in terms of detailed craftsmanship because the guy who made it was the same metal worker that made the raw weapons and tools (not the ornate pieces, he was a special artist) and used scrap metal to bang out the ring.

Julius Caeser's X legion may have been the first (not 100%) they wore rings with a bull on them, it was their symbol. Centaurians (generals) wore rings with their individual stamp or symbol because that's how they signed work orders and such, by stamping hot wax with their ring which was a reverse image.

The JC X Legion were disbanded after his assasination and later recalled by his step son Augustus when he took power. For the new and improved X Legion, rings typically did not have a bull but a letter ten or X on it either on the face, or on the sides. They were not as tight and "separatist" as the original X legion and so they got rings made when they could how they could, it was not part of the uniform (so to speak) as it was under JC. So they are not as uniform.

I am a bit of a history Nut, especially Roman History.

And YES damonx, it does look fake in the photo, I assure you it is bronze and authentic, the sources check out 100%.

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08-11-2006, 12:28 PM

thats an awesome conversation piece! $30 is real cheap to for something like that.

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08-11-2006, 12:42 PM

Originally posted by godisdead

That's a cool ring! Wearing that must be a great feeling. Congrats!
What's it made of?

Bronze. During the era Gold and Silver could only legally be worn by aristocrats.

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08-11-2006, 12:51 PM

Originally posted by RayVega

It cost me $30, I was offered $2,800

I'd have took the money.

Nah, pretty cool thing to have !

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08-11-2006, 12:55 PM

pretty fucking cool

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08-11-2006, 01:09 PM

Cool ring .. congrats !
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08-11-2006, 01:15 PM

Originally posted by RayVega

It cost me $30, I was offered $2,800

That would have been nice R.O.I ,but hey if its worth that you can always get that. So enjoy it

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08-11-2006, 01:24 PM

Originally posted by Big Red Machine

That would have been nice R.O.I ,but hey if its worth that you can always get that. So enjoy it

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08-11-2006, 01:28 PM

It does look kinda cool

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08-11-2006, 01:31 PM

cool ring..

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08-11-2006, 01:39 PM

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08-11-2006, 04:17 PM

It looks rather modern, so you can wear it and nobody will know that it is ancient.
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08-11-2006, 04:19 PM

pinky rings are gay... but, other than that its a great buy....
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08-11-2006, 04:27 PM

Hopefully this is you, because it's the same exact ring.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ANCIENT-ROMAN-SO...QQcmdZViewItem

And if that is you, I'm sure that place knows the difference between a $2,000 ring and one they can list buy it now for $35.
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08-11-2006, 04:42 PM

Originally posted by Matt 26z

Hopefully this is you, because it's the same exact ring.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ANCIENT-ROMAN-SO...QQcmdZViewItem

And if that is you, I'm sure that place knows the difference between a $2,000 ring and one they can list buy it now for $35.

Yes, I actually was emailing the guy before I knew he used ebay. I came accross his ebay store and emailed him with questions. immediately took top bid on that ring and another one as well. Like I said, he's a bulk dealer. he put's the value at $100. I have since had offers from two collectors whom I contacted with photos to see if it were real, and the highest offer was 2800. It is all in what they know about the history of the ring. i learned alot from one of the collectors i spoke to about this particular ring that the seller doesn't know.

I highly recommend this particular seller. He has some real Gems that he is not willing to do the research to find, he's happy with his $30-$65.

Also If you can grab a Key Ring for under $100 between size 7-10 you will steal it. But it's all relevant. To someone who knows about the markings and can identify certain markings to date items they are worth more. To another guy it's a bronze roman soldier's ring. To some who know the story, it's a whole lot more...

I'm watching a few other items, now everyone on this fuckin board is going to be driving the bids up...thanks for outing me

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08-11-2006, 04:46 PM

Originally posted by marketsmart

pinky rings are gay... but, other than that its a great buy....

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08-11-2006, 05:13 PM

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08-11-2006, 05:15 PM

Originally posted by RayVega

It cost me $30, I was offered $2,800

BULLSHIT!
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