MAJOR NEWS: You can no longer transfer Epassporte money unless verified with a CC

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  • FuqALot
    Confirmed User
    • Dec 2001
    • 3817

    #101
    Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
    ok i will give you a reality 101 on cc usage.
    I have a few credit cards from well known credit card companies like capitalone/bankone/etc so i called one just to test your theory
    The sad thing about your post is that you didn't really give them a call.

    You were one of the last usernames i'd put on my gfy ignorant list..

    If you have such a shitty bank, you should mention 'pending charges'. A cc processor will know what a pending charge is. You just need to call the right phone number.

    Like I said before, you guys just dont want to solve the problem, or you would've called some companies by now.

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    • SmokeyTheBear
      ►SouthOfHeaven
      • Jun 2004
      • 28609

      #102
      Originally posted by FuqALot
      The sad thing about your post is that you didn't really give them a call.

      You were one of the last usernames i'd put on my gfy ignorant list..

      If you have such a shitty bank, you should mention 'pending charges'. A cc processor will know what a pending charge is. You just need to call the right phone number.

      Like I said before, you guys just dont want to solve the problem, or you would've called some companies by now.

      capitalone is one of the biggest credit card companies in the usa , call them yourself and try idiot..
      hatisblack at yahoo.com

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      • FuqALot
        Confirmed User
        • Dec 2001
        • 3817

        #103
        Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
        lool

        no idea what "internet verification number" means

        I opened my Epassporte account 2 years ago, with a polich credit card

        they put a pending authorisation for $25 or so, divided into two transactions

        so f.e 1 pending transaction for $13,04 and a second one for $11,96

        I called my bank, asked for these exactamounts and then put them into the epassporte website and got verified instantly
        Finally someone ;-D

        Its just that everytime I called and tried to explain what I needed, I didn't even need to finish talking... they said, "I know what verification number or amount you need, one second"... Et voila.

        If they are not that bright, then just tell 'em to look up the list of pending charges.. indeed just like you did.

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        • rowan
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Mar 2002
          • 17393

          #104
          I'm willing to best this is one of their "enhancements" which has leaked out early. There's no way they could expect existing, loyal customers to lose the right to transfer funds for potentially several days until their account is verified. It's the WEEKEND in Australia so even if I did the load right now I'd have to wait at least 3-4 full days until the amount settled and showed up on my online statement.

          I've already lost a traffic sale because of this rule - the buyer cannot send me the funds...

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          • SmokeyTheBear
            ►SouthOfHeaven
            • Jun 2004
            • 28609

            #105
            Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
            lool

            no idea what "internet verification number" means

            I opened my Epassporte account 2 years ago, with a polich credit card

            they put a pending authorisation for $25 or so, divided into two transactions

            so f.e 1 pending transaction for $13,04 and a second one for $11,96

            I called my bank, asked for these exact amounts and then put them into the epassporte website and got verified instantly
            thats the difference between a bank issued credit card and a non-bank issued credit card..
            hatisblack at yahoo.com

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            • SmokeyTheBear
              ►SouthOfHeaven
              • Jun 2004
              • 28609

              #106
              dont get me wrong im not saying " you cant verify your account" i was merely putting your instructions to the test with one of the largest credit card companies in the usa..

              and it failed..
              hatisblack at yahoo.com

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              • FuqALot
                Confirmed User
                • Dec 2001
                • 3817

                #107
                Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                capitalone is one of the biggest credit card companies in the usa , call them yourself and try idiot..
                Nice attitude man..

                So the biggest cc company doesnt know what a pending charge is on a cc statement? Who are you fooling?

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                • rowan
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Mar 2002
                  • 17393

                  #108
                  Originally posted by FuqALot
                  Finally someone ;-D

                  Its just that everytime I called and tried to explain what I needed, I didn't even need to finish talking... they said, "I know what verification number or amount you need, one second"... Et voila.

                  If they are not that bright, then just tell 'em to look up the list of pending charges.. indeed just like you did.
                  Glad to hear it worked for you, but that doesn't mean it's going to be so easy for everyone. For example, for pending charges (which don't even show in my online statement) my bank can tell me:

                  a) The amount (in AUSTRALIAN dollars),
                  b) The date and time of transaction,
                  c) The transaction type/category.

                  They can't see the descriptor which means they cannot tell me the merchant. Nor can they tell me the currency it was billed in or what the original foreign currency amount may be. I have to wait until the transaction is settled by the merchant to see the full information.

                  Please don't assume that everyone's bank has access to the required info and is willing/smart enough to provide it to customers who ask.

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                  • Klen
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 32234

                    #109
                    Hmm nasty news.But i think is normal for any similar service to have this verificition requied yet again it's a strange if you cant send without verification.

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                    • SmokeyTheBear
                      ►SouthOfHeaven
                      • Jun 2004
                      • 28609

                      #110
                      Originally posted by FuqALot
                      Nice attitude man..

                      So the biggest cc company doesnt know what a pending charge is on a cc statement? Who are you fooling?
                      you didnt mention anything about a pending charge .. need i remind you of what you wrote ?
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                      There is a phone number on the back of the cc.
                      Call that number, give them the cc number, and then say: "Internet Verification Number in USD", they will know immediately what you need.

                      They give you all verification numbers you ever used.. You have to mention epassporte though, or they will look for paypal numbers.

                      -------------------------

                      i dont see "pending charge" there anywhere . i asked exactly what you said was "cc 101" and it didnt work , try them yourself 1-800-903-3637

                      like i said i have no doubt you can verify the account , my test was only to see if your method works. I have online reporting so i would simply look online and see what the charge was. you dont have to get all bent out of shape because your method didnt work or you didnt explain all the different scenarios one might encounter.. fact is its not simple for everyone , some people it may be simple for.. will it work for most people the way you described it .. doubtfull if it doesnt work at one of the largest credit card companies in the usa..
                      hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                      • OneWhoKnows
                        Confirmed User
                        • Aug 2005
                        • 873

                        #111
                        OK people, maybe it would be nice to calm down a bit

                        First of all, if this really a new EP policy, this sucks. But what sucks major ass is that they obviously thought it's not necessary to inform the customers about this goddamn IMPORTANT change. This is absolutely unprofessional, as it is to tell customers on the phone line that everyone has been informed through e-mail. My epass e-mail account, empty - and nothing from them in the mail account that I used to open my EP account aswell. Probably an info mail is coming, but sending it afterwards is just lame.

                        On the other hand, I'm glad that I don't have a gift account from a sponsor, I opened it by myself - so I HAD to verify it with my current CC anywayz. And now one word to all people who are afraid the epass way of verification won't work with their CC company. I have a CC from Barclaycard, one of the biggest CC suppliers in Europe. And yes, currency is also Euro on my CC. And believe me, the average callcenter guy there doesn't know jackshit about epass, so I also had my doubts if it works. Here is what happened:

                        After some verification stuff (birthday, phone password...):

                        Me: Ok, could you please check if there's a pending transfer on my mastercard?

                        Callcenter Guy: What information do you need exactly?

                        M: Well, I need you to lookup if there's a pending charge from "epassporte.com" and if yes, I need the exact amount of the charge for verification purposes. It's a security precaution to verify that it's really me who is using my credit card through the internet.

                        CG: Ah ok, I understand. Yes, there's a pending charge from epassporte.com - do you need the amount in $ or EUR!

                        M: Oh, both are available? Cool, tell me both then.

                        CG: OK, the original amount charged is $XX and your card would be charged with XX EUR if the charge is cleared.

                        M: Thanks a lot, that's the info I needed. Bye!

                        CG: Bye!

                        So, I entered the info at the epass form, and my account was verified. That easy. Oh, and because epass knows that there are dumb banks/cc suppliers, you can choose your currency in that form. So you don't necessarily need to enter the original $ amount, the equivalent in EUR also works!

                        Good luck to anyone who tries - and I'm really looking forward to hear Keyser Soze's info on this fucked up incident... and especially what's their excuse about doing important policy changes without informing the customers. Where I live this is illegal and gives you the right to immediately cancel your contract with the party who made that fault

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                        • FuqALot
                          Confirmed User
                          • Dec 2001
                          • 3817

                          #112
                          Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                          like i said i have no doubt you can verify the account , my test was only to see if your method works. I have online reporting so i would simply look online and see what the charge was. you dont have to get all bent out of shape because your method didnt work or you didnt explain all the different scenarios one might encounter.. fact is its not simple for everyone , some people it may be simple for.. will it work for most people the way you described it .. doubtfull if it doesnt work at one of the largest credit card companies in the usa..
                          I already added to that post that if they dont understand the verification number thing, that they should mention "pending charge".

                          My only reason to post here was to give some people some clues. If it worked for one, im happy. I dont understand you getting all upset about my post

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                          • jimthefiend
                            So Fucking Banned
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 18889

                            #113
                            So can you still use the virtual visa thing to make online purchases?

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                            • AkiraSS
                              Wemaxa.com
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 2989

                              #114
                              atm withdrawals work

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                              • FuqALot
                                Confirmed User
                                • Dec 2001
                                • 3817

                                #115
                                Originally posted by rowan
                                Glad to hear it worked for you, but that doesn't mean it's going to be so easy for everyone. For example, for pending charges (which don't even show in my online statement) my bank can tell me:

                                a) The amount (in AUSTRALIAN dollars),
                                b) The date and time of transaction,
                                c) The transaction type/category.

                                They can't see the descriptor which means they cannot tell me the merchant. Nor can they tell me the currency it was billed in or what the original foreign currency amount may be. I have to wait until the transaction is settled by the merchant to see the full information.

                                Please don't assume that everyone's bank has access to the required info and is willing/smart enough to provide it to customers who ask.
                                Well, fair enough - at least you tried to call them.

                                I made my post for people who didnt have an idea at all. They could always try my method and see if it works - thats what my post was all about. Maybe it sounded like I thought it would work for everyone, but 90% never called the number on the cc hehe.

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                                • gooddomains
                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                  • Jul 2003
                                  • 10127

                                  #116
                                  holy shit

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                                  • SmokeyTheBear
                                    ►SouthOfHeaven
                                    • Jun 2004
                                    • 28609

                                    #117
                                    Originally posted by FuqALot
                                    I already added to that post that if they dont understand the verification number thing, that they should mention "pending charge".
                                    heres exactly what you wrote. says nothing about pending charge , this is what i quoted this is what i was responding to.. i wasnt responding to something you wrote later i was responding to the post you made..
                                    this one below that doesnt mention pending charges anywhere
                                    ---------------------
                                    Originally Posted by FuqALot
                                    Ok I will give you guys a 101 on cc usage.

                                    There is a phone number on the back of the cc.
                                    Call that number, give them the cc number, and then say: "Internet Verification Number in USD", they will know immediately what you need.

                                    They give you all verification numbers you ever used.. You have to mention epassporte though, or they will look for paypal numbers.
                                    -------------------


                                    Originally posted by FuqALot
                                    I dont understand you getting all upset about my post
                                    lol im getting upset..? you started crying calling me names and pretending to ignore me because i tried what you suggested and it didnt work..
                                    i think you have some issues or something , my original post was more of a joke on your oversimplification of the instructions and you got all hissy like a little girl or something.. dont get so offended dude , relax...
                                    hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                    • jimthefiend
                                      So Fucking Banned
                                      • Oct 2003
                                      • 18889

                                      #118
                                      This is complete shit. They've already got a copy of my ID wtf more do they need?

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                                      • u-Bob
                                        there's no $$$ in porn
                                        • Jul 2005
                                        • 33063

                                        #119
                                        Originally posted by FuqALot
                                        what you talking about

                                        cc records always show 2 amounts (if 2 currencies used) - the original country amount and your country amount - you have to enter the original country (usd) amount.
                                        Incorrect. My cc records only show the amount in euros.

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                                        • DamageX
                                          Marketing & Strategy
                                          • Jun 2001
                                          • 14293

                                          #120
                                          Originally posted by jimthefiend
                                          This is complete shit. They've already got a copy of my ID wtf more do they need?
                                          Yeah, I was thinking the same... Pisses me off big time.
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                                          • KingK7
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Jun 2002
                                            • 6372

                                            #121
                                            Originally posted by jimthefiend
                                            This is complete shit. They've already got a copy of my ID wtf more do they need?
                                            Your hard earned cash apparently

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                                            • SmokeyTheBear
                                              ►SouthOfHeaven
                                              • Jun 2004
                                              • 28609

                                              #122
                                              i dont think anyones arguing with you that you cant verify their credit cards the issue is more about them not notifying us ahead of time so if theres a problem they wont be without use of their card etc and the issue about people who got the card without a credit card and after all this dont exactly feel safe handing over credit card info or banking info to epassporte, when thats what the whole thing is to avoid, thats if they even have one .
                                              hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                              • thricer
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Dec 2005
                                                • 5324

                                                #123
                                                This is really fucked up.
                                                None So

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                                                • basschick
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                  • 2540

                                                  #124
                                                  i surely hope - and totally fear - that this is a new policy. if so, i will no longer be able to pay my designers with epassporte, which will be a big inconvenience and is why i bought several of them gift accounts with cards.

                                                  and if it IS a new policy, not only did they not notify us - they didn't notify their own rep in advance or even when it happened.

                                                  geez, i hope it's a big fuckup and things will go back to normal...
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                                                  • FuqALot
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Dec 2001
                                                    • 3817

                                                    #125
                                                    Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                    lol im getting upset..? you started crying calling me names and pretending to ignore me because i tried what you suggested and it didnt work..
                                                    i think you have some issues or something , my original post was more of a joke on your oversimplification of the instructions and you got all hissy like a little girl or something.. dont get so offended dude , relax...
                                                    i never understood why people get so emotional on message boards

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                                                    • Jarmusch
                                                       
                                                      • May 2003
                                                      • 12479

                                                      #126
                                                      I've had a confirmed CC there for quite some time and sometimes use it to load my account. Never had a problem with it.

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                                                      • jimthefiend
                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                        • Oct 2003
                                                        • 18889

                                                        #127
                                                        Originally posted by KingK7
                                                        Your hard earned cash apparently







                                                        My salary is sent via Epass, but I should be ok since I assume accounting funds it with a bank account.






                                                        Anyone tried using the virtual to buy something online?

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                                                        • FuqALot
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Dec 2001
                                                          • 3817

                                                          #128
                                                          Originally posted by jimthefiend


                                                          My salary is sent via Epass, but I should be ok since I assume accounting funds it with a bank account.

                                                          Anyone tried using the virtual to buy something online?
                                                          Tried a few hours ago jim, it works..

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                                                          • gooddomains
                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                            • Jul 2003
                                                            • 10127

                                                            #129
                                                            that really seems to cause a few questions

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                                                            • gooddomains
                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                              • Jul 2003
                                                              • 10127

                                                              #130
                                                              hope some official epass statement ist coming in soon

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                                                              • jimthefiend
                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                • Oct 2003
                                                                • 18889

                                                                #131
                                                                Originally posted by FuqALot
                                                                Tried a few hours ago jim, it works..


                                                                Well there ya go. I suppose I can live with it then.



                                                                Prettty fucking lame of them not to notify us (there WAS no fucking email lmao) or even their reps.

                                                                LOl and they need to get someone who's a native English speaker to write their shit:

                                                                You do may make any transfers until you have a verified load mechanism.

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                                                                • Why
                                                                  MFBA
                                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                                  • 7230

                                                                  #132
                                                                  Originally posted by FuqALot
                                                                  what you talking about

                                                                  cc records always show 2 amounts (if 2 currencies used) - the original country amount and your country amount - you have to enter the original country (usd) amount.
                                                                  this is completely false statement. i bank with bank of america, the largest bank in the united states, and i live in austria. all of my Euro(?) transactions only show in USD($)

                                                                  please try again.

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                                                                  • HairToStay
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                                    • 1521

                                                                    #133
                                                                    "You do may make any transfers until you have a verified load mechanism."

                                                                    That's on my backup account, which I thought had a cc or bank account on it. I know my main one has a bank account since I transfer funds there.

                                                                    But, am testing it.

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                                                                    • Klen
                                                                      • Aug 2006
                                                                      • 32234

                                                                      #134
                                                                      Hmm this could be very problematic for people who use epassporte for paying beacuse usualy they cant have credit card(for example i cant have it beacuse i dont have fixed income)and also wire transfer cost 20$ in bank plus 5$ in epassporte which is way toomuch.

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                                                                      • Johan Wellcash
                                                                        Registered User
                                                                        • May 2005
                                                                        • 9

                                                                        #135
                                                                        I recently created a Epassporte account with my VISA connected to a bank in Europe. All I did was checking the pending amount by logging in to my internet-bank, translated it on forex.com into dollars and voila I had the exact amount.

                                                                        No problem at all..


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                                                                        • HairToStay
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Oct 2002
                                                                          • 1521

                                                                          #136
                                                                          What sucks is I can't add a credit card to that account without loading it with $25, and since I don't need funds in that account, and don't want to pay the cash advance fee .....
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                                                                          • tenderobject
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                                                                            • Dec 2004
                                                                            • 11688

                                                                            #137
                                                                            so how could someone who uses epass that lives on other country and doesn't have creditcard would fix their account? so bye bye ,monay? fuck it!


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                                                                            • tenderobject
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                                                                              • Dec 2004
                                                                              • 11688

                                                                              #138
                                                                              Originally posted by HairToStay
                                                                              What sucks is I can't add a credit card to that account without loading it with $25, and since I don't need funds in that account, and don't want to pay the cash advance fee .....

                                                                              wow whats that fucking 25$ fee? just to verify your account? where would it go after?


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                                                                              • wjxxx
                                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                                • Feb 2005
                                                                                • 4448

                                                                                #139
                                                                                It sucks

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                                                                                • FuqALot
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Dec 2001
                                                                                  • 3817

                                                                                  #140
                                                                                  Originally posted by Why
                                                                                  all of my Euro(?) transactions only show in USD($)
                                                                                  Haha, well then you wont have a problem at all ;-)

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                                                                                  • polle54
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Jul 2004
                                                                                    • 4626

                                                                                    #141
                                                                                    Originally posted by x582
                                                                                    So the rep tells me on the phone. Can no longer transfer money to other epassporte account unless you verify your account with a credit card / bank account.
                                                                                    why the fuck haven't you verified your acc?
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                                                                                    • Vlad
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Dec 2002
                                                                                      • 2864

                                                                                      #142
                                                                                      what a bunch of crap

                                                                                      nothing changed so far

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                                                                                      • blofer80
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Sep 2002
                                                                                        • 932

                                                                                        #143
                                                                                        I dont understand how this policy will stop fraud.
                                                                                        I mean, people use fake credit cards anyway, so whats the point?

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                                                                                        • AkiraSS
                                                                                          Wemaxa.com
                                                                                          • Jan 2003
                                                                                          • 2989

                                                                                          #144
                                                                                          can someone with a "verified" account send like $1 to someone they know to see if it works. It doesn't allow account to account transfers currently. ATM withdrawals work fine. It's a database issue imo not a new policy, won't make any sence.

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                                                                                          • FuqALot
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Dec 2001
                                                                                            • 3817

                                                                                            #145
                                                                                            Originally posted by AkiraSS
                                                                                            can someone with a "verified" account send like $1 to someone they know to see if it works. It doesn't allow account to account transfers currently. ATM withdrawals work fine. It's a database issue imo not a new policy, won't make any sence.
                                                                                            I paid bluewire (account to account) through epass an hour ago, it worked.

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                                                                                            • DarkLord
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Dec 2003
                                                                                              • 370

                                                                                              #146
                                                                                              well, guys, at least you have the better situation than most russian webmasters I know, because we only can verify accounts through europen bank transfer or something like that. I don't even have a 'credit card' option on my Add Funds/Reload page at epassporte account.
                                                                                              fuck. gonna call my bank tomorrow.




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                                                                                              • Paul Markham
                                                                                                Too old to care
                                                                                                • Jun 2001
                                                                                                • 52942

                                                                                                #147
                                                                                                Originally posted by DamageX
                                                                                                Anyone tried WITHDRAWING money after this shit happened? Or paying with the Electron card?
                                                                                                I just transfered $2,000 to 10 of the content store affiliates and it seems to have worked fine.

                                                                                                Will try to take money out tonight.

                                                                                                We have a business account.

                                                                                                Dear Paul Markham,

                                                                                                This email is to inform you of a transfer of $291.50 from your account to ePassporte card member xxxxxx. Please note that you were charged a transfer fee of $2.00.

                                                                                                Comments:
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                                                                                                If you have any questions about this transaction or need any further assistance, feel free to contact us via email at [email protected], or visit us online at https://www.epassporte.com.

                                                                                                Thank you.
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                                                                                                • micker
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Nov 2005
                                                                                                  • 748

                                                                                                  #148
                                                                                                  just to test this, I just went and paid my hosting bill with epass... no problems. Think you guys are freaking out here... patience... its too early there to get anyone that can do anything on the phone... I really doubt epass is going to scam anyone out of their money. just be patient, wait until business hours begin and then call them.

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                                                                                                  • johnshinil
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Jan 2005
                                                                                                    • 194

                                                                                                    #149
                                                                                                    Relax guys... dont panick.. just

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                                                                                                    IT will be too late when balance will be 0,0. Run now.

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                                                                                                    • DanielS
                                                                                                      Registered User
                                                                                                      • Apr 2003
                                                                                                      • 569

                                                                                                      #150
                                                                                                      lots of fraud these days...btw never had a problem with them.

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