Tell that to the Catalans I've lived 4 years in Guardamar del Segura
aswell completely different than Catalunya (I have a US english keyboard so I
know it's not spelled correctly). but nevertheless also a nice place to live.
Been to Valencia many times....cool city....I celebrated Las Fallas there once
very nice......a bit similar to Las Fogueres in San Juan (Alicante)
I visited Marbella in 1998 and havn't left since. It's by far one of the best places to live. 320 days of sunshine, excellent food, hot girls, luxury surroundings.
So you still live there?
We have a vacation apartment in the La Quinta area (Nueva Andalucia)
So you still live there?
We have a vacation apartment in the La Quinta area (Nueva Andalucia)
I live just 5 minutes from La Quinta in Los Arqueros Golf & Country Club. There are quite a few webmasters in the Marbella area. We should do a gathering sometime?
and what are the average real estate ( apartment) prices per square meter?
not the richest, most exclusive areas or standards, but not the poorest either ?
just some ballpark - is it rather 3k euros or 6k euros per meter in such case
ok, found some article on my own
From El País: ?House price rises continue to soar in extended boom: average cost of a new home up just under 12% in past year? | ?House prices continued to rise at double-digit rates in the past year, as an unrelenting property boom further distanced the dream of lower-income families of owning their own home in a country where there is a notable lack of affordable rented accommodation.
According to figures released Friday by the appraisal group Sociedad de Tasación, the average price of a new home in the 12 months to June was up 11.9 percent, compared with the same period a year earlier, when the increase was 10.7 percent.
The cost of a new home increased in all of the provincial capitals in the first six months of the year, when the average price was up 6.3 percent at ?2,675 per square meter. The increase in 42 out of the 49 capitals was over 5 percent, and below 4 percent in only three.
The average price in Barcelona was up 9 percent at ?4,034 per square meter and up 4.4 percent in Madrid at ?3,788 per square meter. At the other extreme, the cheapest places to live in Spain were the provinces of Lugo and Pontevedra in the northwestern region of Galicia, and Badajoz in Extremadura in the southwest, where the cost of a new home was under ?1,400 per square meter.
Property prices have risen by over 150 percent on average since the current boom started in 1998. Over 80 percent of Spanish families own their own home, the highest rate in Europe. Unlike other European countries such as France, Germany, Britain and Holland, local municipalities have not built up a pool of publicly owned housing for rent.
The standard lease period in the private rental sector is five years, and there are millions of apartments in the country lying unoccupied. The Socialist government set up a housing ministry when it took office in 2004. The department, however, has had limited success in encouraging renting as an alternative to ownership.
The housing boom has also raised concerns on the part of the Bank of Spain, which estimates property prices are overvalued by up to 35 percent. As a result of the need to take on increasingly bigger mortgages due to the boom, household debt has shot up to 110 percent of gross disposable income.?
so it looks like the apartment prices are rising all the time, but there's a big supply of rental apartments so the renting prices may be indeed relatively cheap
then again, I wonder why the prices are increasing all the time if they're "millions of unoccupied apartments"
I visited Marbella in 1998 and havn't left since. It's by far one of the best places to live. 320 days of sunshine, excellent food, hot girls, luxury surroundings.
EDIT: Did not see your reply to The Usual Suspect above...
I am in Nueva Andalucia as well.
Got ICQ? 2261391
Here we go, some memories of Barcelona from a few years ago:
- Spanish cuisine must be among the worst in the world. Nowhere close to classic Italian, Chinese, French, Indian or even Turkish dining. Does Spain have any culinary history at all? Each dish appears to be full of fat and lacking taste and nutrients. Horrible.
- Spanish people tend to be lazy. Stores shut down in the afternoon. If you want to buy something at 2pm you're fucked.
- Prices: Do not expect anything cheap here. Thanks to tourism they got people paying premiums on everything. I remember I went to some club on a Sat night and they charged overpriced cover fees without offering anythign "special" such as a bunch of DJs or anything. Of course the cover gets you no liquor, not a single drink. Those started at 20 Euro for Vodka/Red Bull. Lots of chubby chicks being chased by skinny spanish boys with mullet hair cuts. You end up paying 100-150 Euro for nothing. Garbage DJ, garbage interior atmosphere, ultra packed club. At least they had AC.
- I am not sure how much this applies to Barcelona, but I hear areas such as Malaga and some islands such as Mallorca are infested with wealthy foreigners. Russians, Germans, British. Before you move anywhere, make sure you check out what type of scum occupies the surrounding neighbourhood.
People probably thought you were an asshole and decided to rip you off.
I live in Spain, used to live in Barca.. aslong as you dont go to the shite tourist places, the food is excellent, the best fucking resturant in the world is just outside the city..
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