Uhuh, and how am I supposed to "do research"? Goto a fucking library?
I suggested doing more research as well here. I don't think the library will help but perhaps forums, resource sites etc.
Not to mention you have to invest and take some losses a lot of times before seeing a profit. Do you think guys like myself that buy and flip traffic make a profit on every campaign? Do you think we made "instant riches" without taking losses. I know guys that burn $25 in less then 15 minutes. Take your lumps and learn. You will need a bit of a bank roll to get started.
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I refuse to believe that only people who are SEO wizards getting free traffic + "traffic trade extraordinaires" who trade shit traffic for better traffic - direct it to sponsors and make money. There are people who buy good traffic and send send it to sponsors and make money, ok? I bet a few of them posted in this very thread and of course preferred to laugh at me rather than disclose something that may actually help me. No surprise though.
I refuse to believe that only people who are SEO wizards getting free traffic + "traffic trade extraordinaires" who trade shit traffic for better traffic - direct it to sponsors and make money. There are people who buy good traffic and send send it to sponsors and make money, ok? I bet a few of them posted in this very thread and of course preferred to laugh at me rather than disclose something that may actually help me. No surprise though.
What is with your cocky attitude? Nobody here has any ownace to help you - and that ownace isn't going to be in some way increased by you being a dick and demanding help whilst you are at it.
Even if you were less churlish, nobody wants to give out the secrets that make them money; and to a degree, why should they? They had to learn about them through hard graft, and so should you.
Hi Eurabia,
I haven't had access to my messengers for a few days but I should be online tomorrow night. I'd be interested to know what niche, site and hosted gallery template you were using & how many galleries you sent to.
Like everyone else mentioned -
The type of traffic you bought
The niche you bought
The site & tour you promote
The gallery template you used all contribute to the success of your campaign.
If you're buying traffic, you want to make sure you have the most control on the call to action on the gallery. A FHG is meant to appeal to the masses & is used and viewed by many. If you're buying niche specific, you want to make sure your message is directed specifically to that niche - you can have your own landing page and link direct to the join page. That should make a difference on the success of your campaign.
Please contact me tomorrow evening or email me, so I can take a look.
Uhuh, and how am I supposed to "do research"? Goto a fucking library?
You are at one of the best places for research on this sort of thing. Here. And it's free.
I'm just going to repeat what everyone else has, with nothing new to add. If you could spend $25 and get a sale guaranteed ($25+) none of us would even bother posting in here, we'd be too busy spending 100 billion dollars on ads so we could get 150 billion in sales the next day.
I don't mean to be a dick, but some classes on business at your local community college probably wouldn't hurt. First rule of business: there is no easy money.
Keep at it, but don't expect foolish results. If you get a sale off a $25 investment, it will only be a fluke.
well... something must suck... no? either the chokertraffic or the topbucks paysite, no?
1) Don't use FHG. Why not? How are they worse than my own gallery where im paying another $25 for hosting?
2) Oversaturated sponsor... OK.. there's prolly some truth to that.
3) Send more, send more! Uhuh, nice advice. You want me to spend $2,500 and make two sales? How is the conversion gonna get better if i simply spend more?
You just prooved to everybody that you are obviously a noob and that you definitly aren't trying to understand what people are saying in your thread.
1. Your CTR on the gallery isn't really bad, but it could be a lot better.
2. Making sales is really gambling. Some days I'm 1:1200, others I'm 1:200. You really can't judge a sponsor (with gallery traffic) until you've sent at least 25 000 hits to the sponsor.
3. If you expect to make a $30 sale by spending $25 you live in a dream world budy. you have to work hard and invest some good money to see good results.
4. Yes topbucks is everywhere, but for one reason : They convert good and they got a good system in place to convert the surfers... opposed to a lot of programs.
5. using a FHG on bought traffic or submission traffic (unless you send your own from your tgp, and even then msot of the time your prod goes down cauz of that), is very dumb and a bold bad move. Fhgs are definitly over exposed and I find that most of the sponsor don't really care about how well the gallery does.
6. You bought totally untargetted traffic... why do you think he sells it that cheap ? Because it's really hard to sell on that.
7. That traffic probably wasn't even american at all at the price you bought it. Be smart and buy traffic from surfers with credit cards next time.
8. Loose the shitty attitude, you're playing in a leage where you aren't even considered a rookie yet, and no coatch will want you on their team if you act like that.
Originally posted by eurabia
I refuse to believe that only people who are SEO wizards getting free traffic + "traffic trade extraordinaires" who trade shit traffic for better traffic - direct it to sponsors and make money. There are people who buy good traffic and send send it to sponsors and make money, ok? I bet a few of them posted in this very thread and of course preferred to laugh at me rather than disclose something that may actually help me. No surprise though.
There was a lot of good advice given you so far but you're way too obnoxious to even TRY to listen to it and read between the lines. NOBODY is gonna give you their receipe to become rich (or make money), it would just cause their way of making money to become saturated and useless.
You have to find something that works for you, but commong sence is a big part of it. Buying chinese traffic and sending it to a paysite that bill via credit card is pretty fucking dumb... (Not saying you did, I don't know exactly what traffic you bought there bud, I don't use choker).
Originally posted by rayadp05
I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?
P.S. The only part where I can definitly confirm you did your job right is in your choice of a sponsor. Topbucks is definitly a kickass program, and you should ask the reps advice before you move onto doing your next bold move. They'll know better and they will help you out.
P.S. #2, when you said the only way to get sales and pay for it after is beeign a sponsor, you were totally wrong. Most big pro programs spent 100k + $ dollars before making their first sale from affiliate. It's very expensive to start a PPS program
I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?
I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?
You need 10,000 hits to a gallery to generate a sale... Not 10,000 to the sponsor... that meen a lot more sales... I am talking just hits to the gallery...
So you got 25,000 hits... To a FHG and Topbucks FHG's look like dog shit regurgitated and then shit all over again...
So to those you need about 18,000 surfers....
So you got 25,000 hits and are wondering why no sale?
Fluctuations... Had you done a better test, like say 250,000 hits, then you would be qualified to quantify the traffics ability to make sales...
With those larger numbers you would be able to say how many unqiues to a gallery to generate a sale...
Now go and make a gallery that promotes the fact that you get 18+ websites with 1 password and you can get a good indication of what is available at these HUGE sites for $4.98....
Well still people are buying traffic from Choker. So my guess is that they treat it as shit traffic and "trade" it to other webmasters for better traffic. How moral is the whole traffic trading business? Isn't the whole premise to fuck over the other guy with shit(ttier) traffic?
Either learn and understand by yourself or quit. No one will tell you their methods how to get quality traffic, you would just be one more competitor...
Uhuh, and how am I supposed to "do research"? Goto a fucking library?
you act like it all should just be handed to you, give me a break. if you can't even understand how to do research you won't get anywhere here. i never buy traffic personally, its best for jump starting a site, not making a living off of.
you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..
Well still people are buying traffic from Choker. So my guess is that they treat it as shit traffic and "trade" it to other webmasters for better traffic. How moral is the whole traffic trading business? Isn't the whole premise to fuck over the other guy with shit(ttier) traffic?
There's no magical switch at Choker's that suddenly sends you a buying surfer when you hit a particular number.
You may not make a sale out of 25k of traffic, but you could make a sale out of 26k. Or 4 sales from 100k. In other words: the sample size is too small. Spend more money (and buy a proper custom gallery design while you're at it) before drawing conclusions.
that's not what you do with crap purchased traffic. what you do with it is trade your crap traffic with someone else who may have better traffic.. keep trading until you get a good source.
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