Networking sites face data cost crisis, Web 2.0 is going to burst

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  • teomaxxx
    Confirmed User
    • May 2003
    • 2737

    #1

    Networking sites face data cost crisis, Web 2.0 is going to burst

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...st-crisis.html

    Dozens of social networking companies could fail next year as digital advertising slows and a new type of dotcom bubble threatens to burst, according to research from consultants Deloitte

    Surviving websites may be forced to supplement their revenue with pay-subscriptions, selling members' data or extra financing, the researchers said.
    The gloomy forecast comes as growth predictions for digital advertising have halved from 17.2pc to 7.2pc for next year, according to eMarketer.
    The Deloitte research shows that as revenue declines, the cost of storing electronic data has soared to more than $100m (£68m) a year for larger sites, as users increasingly want to upload memory-hungry photos and videos.
    "The book value of some social networks may be written down and some companies may fail altogether if funding dries up," said Paul Lee, Deloitte director of research for technology and telecommunications. "Average revenue per user for some of the largest new media sites is measured in just pennies per month, not pounds.
    "This compares with a typical average revenue per user of tens of dollars for a cable subscriber, a regular newspaper reader or a movie fan."
    Analysts estimate that there are more than 1,000 social networking sites on the internet, with 100 big players hosting profiles for 22pc of UK internet users. The best known, including MySpace, LinkedIn, Twitter and Facebook, are likely to be more resilient in the face of the advertising slowdown. However, many of the most popular social networks, such as Facebook and Twitter, do not yet generate large profits.
    "Neither [Facebook or Twitter] has yet demonstrated that it can make money on a scale that matches its number of users," said Madan Sheina, an analyst at Ovum. "Twitter has yet to sketch out plans to
    monetise its blogging site. Revenue has always been an issue for Facebook."
    Facebook was valued at $15bn (£10.2bn) when Microsoft took a $240m minority stake in October last year. "With the economy spiralling into a downturn that figure might seem to be exaggerated right now," Mr Sheina said.
    Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg has stressed that his focus is on growth rather than making money for another couple of years.
    There are, however, signs that the company is feeling the strain of the downturn, as it recently cancelled a plan to allow its employees to sell off shares early on account of the economic climate.
  • Barefootsies
    Choice is an Illusion
    • Feb 2005
    • 42635

    #2
    Yep, heard this a few weeks ago.

    Mainstream adrevenue is being cut back, and drying up. Even on the adsense networks.

    As more adult programs cut, and feel the crunch. You are going to see more of the big BROS cutting back. It should be interesting to see who's left at the BROventions end of next year, and the following.

    For those who've been pushing that bullshit yoke about everything on the net should be free, and advertising driven. Welcome to your crow. Eat up. Guess we'll super size our fries next time we see you eh?

    For the rest of us who've been in this game a decade. It's a flashback to late 90's, early 2000's when the net changed from free Utopian dream to a pay to play format.

    When will you 'the internet should be free' fuckheads ever learn business 101?

    Should You Email Your Members?

    Link1 | Link2 | Link3

    Enough Said.

    "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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    • DamageX
      Marketing & Strategy
      • Jun 2001
      • 14293

      #3
      Originally posted by Barefootsies
      When will you 'the internet should be free' fuckheads ever learn business 101?
      1. Build it
      2. Give it all away for free.
      3. ------------
      4. Profit
      Whitehat is for chumps

      If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

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      • tranza
        ICQ: 197-556-237
        • Jun 2003
        • 57559

        #4
        Sounds interesting, bump!
        I'm just a newbie.

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        • PornNewz
          Confirmed User
          • Jul 2008
          • 851

          #5
          We'll see how many large tube sites are left by the end of 2009, this economy may just help this industry after all.
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          • Barefootsies
            Choice is an Illusion
            • Feb 2005
            • 42635

            #6
            Originally posted by DamageX
            1. Build it
            2. Give it all away for free.
            3. ------------
            4. Profit
            3. Check out DamageX podcast.
            http://www.sin20.com/node/4634
            Should You Email Your Members?

            Link1 | Link2 | Link3

            Enough Said.

            "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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            • MRock
              Confirmed User
              • Dec 2007
              • 251

              #7
              nothing is really free ... it's just a matter of WHO is paying
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              • Barefootsies
                Choice is an Illusion
                • Feb 2005
                • 42635

                #8
                Originally posted by MRock
                nothing is really free ... it's just a matter of WHO is paying
                Exactly right.
                Should You Email Your Members?

                Link1 | Link2 | Link3

                Enough Said.

                "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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                • webmasterchecks
                  Confirmed User
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 1685

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Barefootsies

                  When will you 'the internet should be free' fuckheads ever learn business 101?
                  the flip side of that is that if you are not very discreet about making money off the surfer, you dont get much traction.
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                  • DamageX
                    Marketing & Strategy
                    • Jun 2001
                    • 14293

                    #10
                    Originally posted by webmasterchecks
                    the flip side of that is that if you are not very discreet about making money off the surfer, you dont get much traction.
                    Depends on the kind of surfers you target, really, and how you educate them. Some can be educated and learn that paying for quality far outweighs the cost of scouring the web for free crap which sucks balls most of the times. Of course, your product/service also needs to live up to your promises.
                    Whitehat is for chumps

                    If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

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                    • HorseShit
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Dec 2004
                      • 17513

                      #11
                      Originally posted by DamageX
                      Depends on the kind of surfers you target, really, and how you educate them. Some can be educated and learn that paying for quality far outweighs the cost of scouring the web for free crap which sucks balls most of the times. Of course, your product/service also needs to live up to your promises.

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                      • kane
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Aug 2001
                        • 20684

                        #12
                        Originally posted by DamageX
                        1. Build it
                        2. Give it all away for free.
                        3. ------------
                        4. Profit
                        Yep. That about sums it up.

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                        • BradM
                          Confirmed User
                          • Dec 2003
                          • 3397

                          #13
                          Originally posted by DamageX
                          1. Build it
                          2. Give it all away for free.
                          3. ------------
                          4. Profit
                          ROFL. That's exactly it.

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                          • InternetIsForPorn
                            Confirmed User
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 848

                            #14
                            Makes a lot of sense.

                            With more and more people wanting to store their media on the web and the revenues to maintain those web resources are going down, shit might start raining.

                            For example - now you can get a fully functional computer for what, $300? Those netbooks are more than enough for the average user.

                            Broadband is available for everyone.

                            And with the evolution of web services, people host EVERYTHING online. Most obvious is videos.

                            So the demand is rising, but the resources to meet that demand are becoming more and more not worth it.

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                            • DamageX
                              Marketing & Strategy
                              • Jun 2001
                              • 14293

                              #15
                              Sorry for bumping an old thread, anyone got any recent data on this?
                              Whitehat is for chumps

                              If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

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                              • Serge Litehead
                                Confirmed User
                                • Dec 2002
                                • 5190

                                #16
                                i wonder how is flicker and similar sites are doing with their paid subscriptions

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                                • Major (Tom)
                                  So Fucking Banned
                                  • Nov 2003
                                  • 32492

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                  Yep, heard this a few weeks ago.

                                  Mainstream adrevenue is being cut back, and drying up. Even on the adsense networks.

                                  As more adult programs cut, and feel the crunch. You are going to see more of the big BROS cutting back. It should be interesting to see who's left at the BROventions end of next year, and the following.

                                  For those who've been pushing that bullshit yoke about everything on the net should be free, and advertising driven. Welcome to your crow. Eat up. Guess we'll super size our fries next time we see you eh?

                                  For the rest of us who've been in this game a decade. It's a flashback to late 90's, early 2000's when the net changed from free Utopian dream to a pay to play format.

                                  When will you 'the internet should be free' fuckheads ever learn business 101?

                                  +1
                                  duke

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                                  • Davy
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Apr 2006
                                    • 4323

                                    #18
                                    So the bandwidth will become more expensive for all of us?
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                                    • DamageX
                                      Marketing & Strategy
                                      • Jun 2001
                                      • 14293

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Davy
                                      So the bandwidth will become more expensive for all of us?
                                      That's sort of the result of not having enough revenue to cover an ever-increasing bandwidth bill.
                                      Whitehat is for chumps

                                      If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

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                                      • ToplistBlog_Com
                                        So Fucking Banned
                                        • Jul 2006
                                        • 2065

                                        #20
                                        What impact do you guys think cloud computing will have on this? If any.

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                                        • EscortBiz
                                          Fuck Checks, CASH only!
                                          • May 2002
                                          • 19422

                                          #21
                                          simple math

                                          people more and more learn to ignore ads

                                          companies more and more pay attention to clicks and conversions

                                          companies notice its cash in the trash

                                          pull ads

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                                          • Gerco
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Nov 2005
                                            • 2052

                                            #22
                                            Adds? What adds? Hell, I don't even see them anymore. I seriously couldn't tell you what single banner on GFY has been or even a skinning on the last year or so. I'm use to no giving a damn or paying attention whatsoever.

                                            Add that to the fact I run my computers and this forum with signatures turned off and tools to prevent popups/popunders redirects etc. and the Internet has actually become a fun place to surf again.

                                            If I'm ANYTHING like the average surfer... those add campaigns are totally worthless.
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                                            • Agent 488
                                              Registered User
                                              • Feb 2006
                                              • 22511

                                              #23
                                              guess that was all bullshit. been almost a year now and the sites are all chugging away as usual.

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                                              • PornMD
                                                Mainstream Businessman
                                                • Jan 2007
                                                • 9291

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by budsbabes
                                                guess that was all bullshit. been almost a year now and the sites are all chugging away as usual.
                                                The clock is ticking still but yea, several months later haven't seen anything major die...unless you count something like tr.im, lol.
                                                Want to crush it in mainstream with Facebook ads? Hit me up.

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                                                • DamageX
                                                  Marketing & Strategy
                                                  • Jun 2001
                                                  • 14293

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Agent 488
                                                  guess that was all bullshit. been almost a year now and the sites are all chugging away as usual.
                                                  For now.
                                                  Whitehat is for chumps

                                                  If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

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                                                  • NetHorse
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Dec 2006
                                                    • 3526

                                                    #26
                                                    I agree that the conventional web advertising of surveys, sweepstakes, money-making products, health products, etc is dying down. However, advertising will evolve, despite clicks and conversions there will always be a reasonable demand for exposure. It's like saying companies are throwing away millions for commercials during the super bowl because they figure most are just ignoring them.

                                                    Also, as people in the business we are more aware of advertisements and a bit more critical of how successful they can be.
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                                                    • Agent 488
                                                      Registered User
                                                      • Feb 2006
                                                      • 22511

                                                      #27
                                                      they've been dying for years now lol.

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