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  • gleem
    Confirmed User
    • Jun 2001
    • 5593
    #51
    lol, there is an insane amount of stolen content there, they don't even try and hide it, threads are named for the paysite:

    thread name "Twistys Videos"
    http://www.bikinibikini.com/forum/thread47819.html

    thread name "FTV girls"
    http://www.bikinibikini.com/forum/thread55675.html

    thread name: Big Tits round asses:
    http://www.bikinibikini.com/forum/thread46014.html

    thread name: Karups hometown amateurs:
    http://www.bikinibikini.com/forum/thread39744.html


    title:Rape Asian Female Swimming Teacher, See how a female teacher raped by her 4 Students.
    http://www.bikinibikini.com/forum/thread53929.html

    thread title: Monsters Of Cock Micah , Very Hot Video Y.S.I. 234 MB
    http://www.bikinibikini.com/forum/thread52639.html


    ok, I think when a site gets that big and is basically telling us to fuck off with gigs of content per thread mixed in with illegal rape videos and god knows how much CP they prolly have, it should be shutdown permanently.

    I think we should have a voluntary team of webmaster assassins who spend 10 minutes each day shutting down one illegal site like this. 1 webmaster to contact their host, 1 to contact sponsors, 1 to look up their DNS/WHois and send off appropriate emails, 1 to inform ASCAP about CP.. etc..

    10 minutes a day, we could shut down 365 sites like this in a year!




    Contact me: \\// E: webmaster /at/ unprofessional.com

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      • andrej_NDC
        Registered User
        • May 2004
        • 7760
        #52
        Originally posted by KrisKross
        Are you retarded? If the forum offers the entire paysite ripped FOR FREE, why would the surfer signup for the website?
        Now when you see that such sites exist, does it mean surfers don't sign-up to paysites anymore? Let me check real fast...



        ...sales are good, so something is not all right.

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          • andrej_NDC
            Registered User
            • May 2004
            • 7760
            #53
            Originally posted by gleem
            I think we should have a voluntary team of webmaster assassins who spend 10 minutes each day shutting down one illegal site like this. 1 webmaster to contact their host, 1 to contact sponsors, 1 to look up their DNS/WHois and send off appropriate emails, 1 to inform ASCAP about CP.. etc..

            10 minutes a day, we could shut down 365 sites like this in a year!
            But thats not our job, others are paid for it, but they do shit. And when you shut down 1000 sales, 10k new ones will appear, it will make the business even more interresting for some people. Just don't care, it won't make sales worse, adult is growing every year, nothing will stop it.

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              • gleem
                Confirmed User
                • Jun 2001
                • 5593
                #54
                and then you also need to shutdown the places that host all the videos for these forums:
                http://efd2mswshijoxvgz5g.usercash.com/

                look at who's their #1 sponsor below the signup:, epiccams.com lol

                you think they'll shut em down? not without it's own seperate thread of course lol, gotta love the industry




                Contact me: \\// E: webmaster /at/ unprofessional.com

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                  • fastfun
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jul 2006
                    • 249
                    #55
                    Originally posted by KrisKross
                    You are retarded, aren't you? Maybe if I put it in bold and caps, you'll understand a little better?

                    IF A SURFER CAN DOWNLOAD AN ENTIRE PAYSITE FOR FREE, HOW DOES THE PAYSITE OWNER BENFIT?
                    updates - the same reason why serious webmasters make a lot of cash with revshare instead of PPS. People love to come back for updates and new stuff

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                      • gleem
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jun 2001
                        • 5593
                        #56
                        Originally posted by andrej_NDC
                        But thats not our job, others are paid for it, but they do shit. And when you shut down 1000 sales, 10k new ones will appear, it will make the business even more interresting for some people. Just don't care, it won't make sales worse, adult is growing every year, nothing will stop it.
                        I dunno, where you getting "shut down 1000 sales" from? if these sites dissapear, the surfer will either find another forum, or they will be forced to goto TGP's or join that site they were waiting for on a thread request. If the forum guys know there is a real unpaid but pro webmaster hit squad out there, maybe they won't be so quick to reopen new sites?




                        Contact me: \\// E: webmaster /at/ unprofessional.com

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                          • KrisKross
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 5025
                            #57
                            Originally posted by fastfun
                            updates - the same reason why serious webmasters make a lot of cash with revshare instead of PPS. People love to come back for updates and new stuff
                            They'll simply go back to the forum for updates.

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                              • KrisKross
                                Confirmed User
                                • Jan 2006
                                • 5025
                                #58
                                Originally posted by andrej_NDC
                                Now when you see that such sites exist, does it mean surfers don't sign-up to paysites anymore? Let me check real fast...



                                ...sales are good, so something is not all right.
                                No offence, but your sites simply aren't popular to be affected by this. I'm not saying your sites are bad, they're just simply not on the same level as sites like Next Door Nikki or Raven Riley.

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                                  • gleem
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Jun 2001
                                    • 5593
                                    #59
                                    Originally posted by fastfun
                                    updates - the same reason why serious webmasters make a lot of cash with revshare instead of PPS. People love to come back for updates and new stuff

                                    you are just soooo wrong.

                                    will the surfer say:
                                    "hey, I got 40gigs of that paysite's videos, but I'm really wondering what the next video in the series is, so I'll shell out $25 to join... "

                                    or is it more likely the surfer will say:
                                    "I got 40 gigs of videos from that site for free, it was great, wonder how many other sites I can download off this forum tommorow for free"




                                    Contact me: \\// E: webmaster /at/ unprofessional.com

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                                      • andrej_NDC
                                        Registered User
                                        • May 2004
                                        • 7760
                                        #60
                                        Originally posted by gleem
                                        I dunno, where you getting "shut down 1000 sales" from? if these sites dissapear, the surfer will either find another forum, or they will be forced to goto TGP's or join that site they were waiting for on a thread request. If the forum guys know there is a real unpaid but pro webmaster hit squad out there, maybe they won't be so quick to reopen new sites?
                                        "shut down 1000 sites" lol, not sales
                                        damn

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                                          • andrej_NDC
                                            Registered User
                                            • May 2004
                                            • 7760
                                            #61
                                            Originally posted by KrisKross
                                            No offence, but your sites simply aren't popular to be affected by this. I'm not saying your sites are bad, they're just simply not on the same level as sites like Next Door Nikki or Raven Riley.
                                            I was talking about the industry as a whole. The amount people spend in adult is growing rapidly every year.

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                                              • polish_aristocrat
                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                • Jul 2002
                                                • 40377
                                                #62
                                                Originally posted by andrej_NDC
                                                But thats not our job, others are paid for it, but they do shit. And when you shut down 1000 sales, 10k new ones will appear, it will make the business even more interresting for some people. Just don't care, it won't make sales worse, adult is growing every year, nothing will stop it.
                                                Andrej, aren't your conversions getting worse?

                                                how is f.e 2006 compared to 2003 or whenever you started?

                                                yes, I know, your program is growing sweet so you care about your bank account, but could you answer about your ratios? ( even if the traffic sources change etc, you could still see a pattern especially with big volume )

                                                just curious
                                                I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                                                  • andrej_NDC
                                                    Registered User
                                                    • May 2004
                                                    • 7760
                                                    #63
                                                    Originally posted by gleem
                                                    you are just soooo wrong.

                                                    will the surfer say:
                                                    "hey, I got 40gigs of that paysite's videos, but I'm really wondering what the next video in the series is, so I'll shell out $25 to join... "

                                                    or is it more likely the surfer will say:
                                                    "I got 40 gigs of videos from that site for free, it was great, wonder how many other sites I can download off this forum tommorow for free"
                                                    You can also buy a stolen car or steal it, but will people stop byuing cars now? There are people who will always join paysites and then there will always be freeloaders. Those will look for free content, passwords, etc...

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                                                      • fastfun
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Jul 2006
                                                        • 249
                                                        #64
                                                        Originally posted by KrisKross
                                                        They'll simply go back to the forum for updates.
                                                        There have been forums like that ever since the first pay-sites was here.
                                                        It would be easy as hell, for a pay-site owner to scan the forum-watch sites for their own keywords, call the hosts of the forums and close the whole site down. If pay-site owners were loosing money, do you think they would start doing it? do you think pay-site owners are so retarded that they didnt know what the forum was about as soon as they saw the first post?
                                                        Last edited by fastfun; 08-07-2006, 01:10 PM.

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                                                          • andrej_NDC
                                                            Registered User
                                                            • May 2004
                                                            • 7760
                                                            #65
                                                            Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                                                            Andrej, aren't your conversions getting worse?

                                                            how is f.e 2006 compared to 2003 or whenever you started?

                                                            yes, I know, your program is growing sweet so you care about your bank account, but could you answer about your ratios? ( even if the traffic sources change etc, you could still see a pattern especially with big volume )

                                                            just curious
                                                            thats the thing, they are not getting worse...Of course, if I buy 20 spots in a row on some tgp, the last ones won't convert as good as the first ones. But looking overall at it, ratios are similar to those when I started the program(also because of not much saturation probably). The password sites and sites with too much free content are nothing new, they always were here and always will be.

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                                                              • Brujah
                                                                Beer Money Baron
                                                                • Jan 2001
                                                                • 22157
                                                                #66
                                                                Andre, this is a serious question. Can I post full sites rips of yours for download? Will that help me get sales to NDC sites?

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                                                                  • SmokeyTheBear
                                                                    ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                                    • Jun 2004
                                                                    • 28609
                                                                    #67
                                                                    Originally posted by KrisKross
                                                                    IF A SURFER CAN DOWNLOAD AN ENTIRE PAYSITE FOR FREE, HOW DOES THE PAYSITE OWNER BENFIT?
                                                                    they dont and idiot realises this but he thinks by repeating himself 10 times it will make it better
                                                                    hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                                                      • SmokeyTheBear
                                                                        ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                                        • Jun 2004
                                                                        • 28609
                                                                        #68
                                                                        Originally posted by fastfun
                                                                        People love to come back for updates and new stuff
                                                                        thats funny

                                                                        a surfer will pay 30$ a month to get "updates" rather than download the entire site for free.. lol share some of that crack please
                                                                        hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                                                          • KrisKross
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Jan 2006
                                                                            • 5025
                                                                            #69
                                                                            Originally posted by andrej_NDC
                                                                            You can also buy a stolen car or steal it, but will people stop byuing cars now? There are people who will always join paysites and then there will always be freeloaders. Those will look for free content, passwords, etc...
                                                                            It's a lot easier to steal/download paysite content then it is to steal a car. People get arrested for stealing cars all the time. I don't think anyone has ever been arrested for stealing paysite content.

                                                                            I understand there will always be freeloaders. But why should we cater to them? If we're not benefitting from their freeloading, why should we make it easy for them to freeload. All it does is waste our resources and convert paying members to freeloaders too.

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                                                                              • SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                                                • Jun 2004
                                                                                • 28609
                                                                                #70
                                                                                some people are so blatantly oblivious sometimes..

                                                                                Microsoft is still makjing billions and their profits are only getting better , so thus pirated windows copies doesnt hurt the industry or miscrosoft ( its watermarked )
                                                                                hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                                                                  • Brujah
                                                                                    Beer Money Baron
                                                                                    • Jan 2001
                                                                                    • 22157
                                                                                    #71
                                                                                    Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                    thats funny

                                                                                    a surfer will pay 30$ a month to get "updates" rather than download the entire site for free.. lol share some of that crack please
                                                                                    If all the sponsors in the other thread inviting them and offering content don't mind, should we? Shouldn't we post members area full videos and site rips for those sponsors too? They're offering it.

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                                                                                      • SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                        ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                                                        • Jun 2004
                                                                                        • 28609
                                                                                        #72
                                                                                        Originally posted by Brujah
                                                                                        Andre, this is a serious question. Can I post full sites rips of yours for download? Will that help me get sales to NDC sites?
                                                                                        bump i have the same question..
                                                                                        hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                                                                          • andrej_NDC
                                                                                            Registered User
                                                                                            • May 2004
                                                                                            • 7760
                                                                                            #73
                                                                                            Originally posted by Brujah
                                                                                            Andre, this is a serious question. Can I post full sites rips of yours for download? Will that help me get sales to NDC sites?
                                                                                            It won't help, but won't hurt my sales, too.

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                                                                                              • Adult Warden
                                                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                • Jul 2006
                                                                                                • 1822
                                                                                                #74
                                                                                                ATTENTION...

                                                                                                For all those saying we can't stop free porn...That was not the point of this thread...The point is...Stop the sources of money...If they don't have money from sponsors...They can't afford to run the sites...They will have to charge for it...Then you get the merchant account shut down...Or...they will go for donations...Which you get shut down...Not to mention no one donates as they are freeloaders....

                                                                                                The main point to this post is how sponsors are fucking the industry up supporting this type of sites

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                                                                                                  • SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                                    ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                                                                    • Jun 2004
                                                                                                    • 28609
                                                                                                    #75
                                                                                                    Originally posted by andrej_NDC
                                                                                                    It won't help, but won't hurt my sales, too.
                                                                                                    cool thanks.
                                                                                                    hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                                                                                      • andrej_NDC
                                                                                                        Registered User
                                                                                                        • May 2004
                                                                                                        • 7760
                                                                                                        #76
                                                                                                        Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                                        cool thanks.
                                                                                                        my pleasure

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                                                                                                          • KrisKross
                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                            • Jan 2006
                                                                                                            • 5025
                                                                                                            #77
                                                                                                            Originally posted by andrej_NDC
                                                                                                            It won't help, but won't hurt my sales, too.
                                                                                                            I've got a couple of friends who like your sites but won't ever sign up. Can you hook them up with free passes since it won't hurt your sales?

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                                                                                                              • jayeff
                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                • May 2001
                                                                                                                • 2944
                                                                                                                #78
                                                                                                                Originally posted by Brujah
                                                                                                                If all the sponsors in the other thread inviting them and offering content don't mind, should we? Shouldn't we post members area full videos and site rips for those sponsors too? They're offering it.
                                                                                                                Why not? I wonder how much they would sell if we all gave all their content away? Let's all use member area content to sell webcams and dating sites!

                                                                                                                Watermarks and all the other kiddie talk about making a profit from these guys, is bullsh*t to make doing nothing seem like a sound business decision. Oh and of course we never hear squat from the sponsors who are actively promoted on these sites. What it comes down to is that the whole lot are showing nothing but contempt for the affiliates who sell their ID's by legitimate means.

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                                                                                                                  • andrej_NDC
                                                                                                                    Registered User
                                                                                                                    • May 2004
                                                                                                                    • 7760
                                                                                                                    #79
                                                                                                                    Originally posted by KrisKross
                                                                                                                    I've got a couple of friends who like your sites but won't ever sign up. Can you hook them up with free passes since it won't hurt your sales?
                                                                                                                    Why should I make the extra work? Shall they look them up on password sites.

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                                                                                                                      • SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                                                        ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                                                                                        • Jun 2004
                                                                                                                        • 28609
                                                                                                                        #80
                                                                                                                        Originally posted by andrej_NDC
                                                                                                                        my pleasure
                                                                                                                        i appreciate it. I'm not trying to be a dick , but if the sites that dont care if their entire members areas are downloaded and redisplayed for free with no credit would stand up and let themselves be known then we can ALL make a whole lot more money by competing against the sites that dont allow their copyrights to be violated.

                                                                                                                        Now if we can get a list together of sites who dont mind the usage of members area videos on free sites i could make a quite good system for displaying it.

                                                                                                                        The problem right now is many sites have TOS , but they dont follow them so webmasters think they actually have to follow the TOS of the sponsors. so its unclear from the webmasters perspective if they can or can't.
                                                                                                                        hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                                                                                                          • fastfun
                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                            • Jul 2006
                                                                                                                            • 249
                                                                                                                            #81
                                                                                                                            Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                                                            they dont and idiot realises this but he thinks by repeating himself 10 times it will make it better
                                                                                                                            Laugh it up, but the funny thing is you dont have any solid pay-site owners here that cry along with you. Another funny thing is you off all people talk about stolen unlicenced content on forums. You can thank spacash for not letting me open the bag on that one.

                                                                                                                            You can try this as a test. Gather information on about 20-40 forums like bikinibikini.com. Get contact information on forum-admin and hosting company. Try and see if you can sell those information to the pay-site owners for $50. Make sure the information contains links to the specific post with the copyrighted content.

                                                                                                                            If you cant sell it for $50, then the program-owners don't identify it as a problem or threat to their income.

                                                                                                                            Why do you think pay-sites PAY companies to publish their content on p2p networks?

                                                                                                                            I realice we wont ever agree on this, so im gonna stop posting on this topic. Have fun

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                                                                                                                              • Brujah
                                                                                                                                Beer Money Baron
                                                                                                                                • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                • 22157
                                                                                                                                #82
                                                                                                                                Originally posted by andrej_NDC
                                                                                                                                It won't help, but won't hurt my sales, too.
                                                                                                                                It won't help your sales. It won't hurt your sales.

                                                                                                                                It will help me get lots of traffic and they'll click on my sponsors. So I would more or less be using site rips of NDC sites and upsell adbrite, adult friend finder, guba, etc..

                                                                                                                                Honestly, if just a few sponsors were ok with this like you are.. I'm thinking a SiteRips site would be very popular and it would be 100% acceptable since sponsors like you (and all those in the other thread) have OK'd it. So why shouldn't more people just start doing it?

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                                                                                                                                  • andrej_NDC
                                                                                                                                    Registered User
                                                                                                                                    • May 2004
                                                                                                                                    • 7760
                                                                                                                                    #83
                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                                                                    i appreciate it. I'm not trying to be a dick , but if the sites that dont care if their entire members areas are downloaded and redisplayed for free with no credit would stand up and let themselves be known then we can ALL make a whole lot more money by competing against the sites that dont allow their copyrights to be violated.

                                                                                                                                    Now if we can get a list together of sites who dont mind the usage of members area videos on free sites i could make a quite good system for displaying it.

                                                                                                                                    The problem right now is many sites have TOS , but they dont follow them so webmasters think they actually have to follow the TOS of the sponsors. so its unclear from the webmasters perspective if they can or can't.
                                                                                                                                    Every paysites owner cares about it, but its not worth the time to fight it.

                                                                                                                                    And you ARE trying to be a dick.

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                                                                                                                                      • andrej_NDC
                                                                                                                                        Registered User
                                                                                                                                        • May 2004
                                                                                                                                        • 7760
                                                                                                                                        #84
                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Brujah
                                                                                                                                        It won't help your sales. It won't hurt your sales.

                                                                                                                                        It will help me get lots of traffic and they'll click on my sponsors. So I would more or less be using site rips of NDC sites and upsell adbrite, adult friend finder, guba, etc..

                                                                                                                                        Honestly, if just a few sponsors were ok with this like you are.. I'm thinking a SiteRips site would be very popular and it would be 100% acceptable since sponsors like you (and all those in the other thread) have OK'd it. So why shouldn't more people just start doing it?
                                                                                                                                        You are not getting my point, thats why I stop posting, because it leads to nowhere.

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                                                                                                                                          • Brujah
                                                                                                                                            Beer Money Baron
                                                                                                                                            • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                            • 22157
                                                                                                                                            #85
                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                                                                            Now if we can get a list together of sites who dont mind the usage of members area videos on free sites i could make a quite good system for displaying it.
                                                                                                                                            I don't think we should bother asking. Just handle business like they do, like Guba does, like AFF does, etc.. Let it all get posted without worry, and remain up until we get a removal request. Refer to the other thread where all the Reps and Owners were in favor of it.

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                                                                                                                                              • Brujah
                                                                                                                                                Beer Money Baron
                                                                                                                                                • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                                • 22157
                                                                                                                                                #86
                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by andrej_NDC
                                                                                                                                                You are not getting my point, thats why I stop posting, because it leads to nowhere.
                                                                                                                                                I'm not trying to argue with you OR change your mind either. It's not hurting your sales, so it isn't a big deal. I'm just saying if you don't mind Bikini doing it.. why can't I do it too?

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                                                                                                                                                      • andrej_NDC
                                                                                                                                                        Registered User
                                                                                                                                                        • May 2004
                                                                                                                                                        • 7760
                                                                                                                                                        #88
                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Brujah
                                                                                                                                                        I'm not trying to argue with you OR change your mind either. It's not hurting your sales, so it isn't a big deal. I'm just saying if you don't mind Bikini doing it.. why can't I do it too?
                                                                                                                                                        I don't support those sites, I don't like them, you won't find my sites beeing promoted on them. But I won't spend my day with looking them up and fighting them, its not worth it.

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                                                                                                                                                          • rezdesign
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                                                                                                                                                            • Feb 2004
                                                                                                                                                            • 1502
                                                                                                                                                            #89
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                                                                                                                                                              • joshll
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                                                                                                                                                                • Jul 2006
                                                                                                                                                                • 1534
                                                                                                                                                                #90
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                                                                                                                                                                  • jayeff
                                                                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                    • May 2001
                                                                                                                                                                    • 2944
                                                                                                                                                                    #91
                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Brujah
                                                                                                                                                                    I'm not trying to argue with you OR change your mind either. It's not hurting your sales, so it isn't a big deal. I'm just saying if you don't mind Bikini doing it.. why can't I do it too?
                                                                                                                                                                    The sponsors who (unwittingly) provide free content to these sites cannot possibly have a clue whether they make or lose money as a result. Despite the inevitable handful of cheerleaders telling us how smart they are, most sponsors obviously suspect that they lose money, otherwise by now someone would have switched to a new business model. Against that, if they said so in public, it would give rise to the obvious question as to why they aren't doing anything about it: surely one reason sponsors avoid threads like this in droves.

                                                                                                                                                                    And maybe the candle wouldn't be worth the match. Providing these sites are the exception, perhaps it would be too much trouble to do anything about them. But what I don't get, since this is supposedly such a competitive business, is why so many sponsors don't mind dating and cam sites (the ones these sites primarily promote) making money at their expense...

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                                                                                                                                                                      • SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                                                                                                        ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                                                                                                                                        • Jun 2004
                                                                                                                                                                        • 28609
                                                                                                                                                                        #92
                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by andrej_NDC
                                                                                                                                                                        Every paysites owner cares about it, but its not worth the time to fight it.

                                                                                                                                                                        And you ARE trying to be a dick.
                                                                                                                                                                        no im not trying to be a dick , im trying to find out the owners that " its not worth their time to fight it" so i can profit more fully from it myself..

                                                                                                                                                                        If i was trying to be a dick you would know..

                                                                                                                                                                        I know you think im just being technical but im not. i recently made a video search engine type script that actually gives real link credit to the sites it gains content from so this actually does pertain to me

                                                                                                                                                                        heres an example of 100 allnextdoor.com videos

                                                                                                                                                                        http://com.webspacemania.com/video/?...llnextdoor.com

                                                                                                                                                                        notice how for each video it gives credit to your site.. but if you dont need the link and it doesnt hurt sales then im assuming you dont want to be linked ?

                                                                                                                                                                        p.s. i didnt just make this page as an example , its an already existing format for every domain

                                                                                                                                                                        so no im not trying to be a dick im trying to help you and me.
                                                                                                                                                                        hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                                                                                                                                                          • Cyber Fucker
                                                                                                                                                                            Hmm
                                                                                                                                                                            • Sep 2005
                                                                                                                                                                            • 12642
                                                                                                                                                                            #93
                                                                                                                                                                            I will join the discussion... cuz they steal our money
                                                                                                                                                                            lets kill motherfuckers passwordtrade.com

                                                                                                                                                                            before I joined adult industry and when porn was still turning me on (because now it's very difficult to make my dick hard and ready watching porn) I grabbed there lots of stuff...

                                                                                                                                                                            btw. they have lots of bestiality so watch out...

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                                                                                                                                                                              • Brujah
                                                                                                                                                                                Beer Money Baron
                                                                                                                                                                                • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                • 22157
                                                                                                                                                                                #94
                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by jayeff
                                                                                                                                                                                The sponsors who (unwittingly) provide free content to these sites cannot possibly have a clue whether they make or lose money as a result. Despite the inevitable handful of cheerleaders telling us how smart they are, most sponsors obviously suspect that they lose money, otherwise by now someone would have switched to a new business model. Against that, if they said so in public, it would give rise to the obvious question as to why they aren't doing anything about it: surely one reason sponsors avoid threads like this in droves.

                                                                                                                                                                                And maybe the candle wouldn't be worth the match. Providing these sites are the exception, perhaps it would be too much trouble to do anything about them. But what I don't get, since this is supposedly such a competitive business, is why so many sponsors don't mind dating and cam sites (the ones these sites primarily promote) making money at their expense...
                                                                                                                                                                                Excellent post. Notice all the sponsors who are in the other thread? They're probably the same sponsors who throw up a TOS but never really enforce it. Scammers will probably be drawn to those same sponsors.. and they will be the same sponsors who post threads complaining about affiliates.

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                                                                                                                                                                                  • Supz
                                                                                                                                                                                    Arthur Flegenheimer
                                                                                                                                                                                    • Jul 2006
                                                                                                                                                                                    • 11057
                                                                                                                                                                                    #95
                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by KrisKross
                                                                                                                                                                                    Is that so? Alrighty then... give me the contact for your mods. I want to let them know that ALL YOUR CONTENT IS STOLEN. They're remove it immediately, right?

                                                                                                                                                                                    http://bikinibikini.com/forum/thread65136.html

                                                                                                                                                                                    I'm not so sure that girl is over 18. And even if she is, I'm 100% sure you that have the necessary documents to prove it. So I've reported your site to the appropriate authorities. I'd suggest you bone up on 2257 law in the meantime.

                                                                                                                                                                                    Shes gotta be over 18, did you see the hair on her stomach?

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                                                                                                                                                                                      • Adult Warden
                                                                                                                                                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                                        • Jul 2006
                                                                                                                                                                                        • 1822
                                                                                                                                                                                        #96
                                                                                                                                                                                        Bump for the evening crew

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                                                                                                                                                                                          • Scroto
                                                                                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                            • Nov 2005
                                                                                                                                                                                            • 2804
                                                                                                                                                                                            #97
                                                                                                                                                                                            what the fuck bang bros pws --> http://www.bikinibikini.com/forum/thread65207.html

                                                                                                                                                                                            bunch of shit

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                                                                                                                                                                                              • just a punk
                                                                                                                                                                                                So fuckin' bored
                                                                                                                                                                                                • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                                • 32385
                                                                                                                                                                                                #98
                                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by KrisKross
                                                                                                                                                                                                I'm not so sure that girl is over 18.
                                                                                                                                                                                                You should learn one major GFY rule. Never post here the links to content you consider/suspect underage! Submit it to asacp.org or fbi.gov instead. That's not a joke.
                                                                                                                                                                                                Obey the Cowgod

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • DamageX
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Marketing & Strategy
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Jun 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • 14293
                                                                                                                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by andrej_NDC
                                                                                                                                                                                                    You can also buy a stolen car or steal it, but will people stop byuing cars now? There are people who will always join paysites and then there will always be freeloaders. Those will look for free content, passwords, etc...
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Let's see how far you get driving a stolen car. The whole reason why not everyone is driving stolen cars is because THEY CAN'T GET AWAY WITH IT, like we're letting these fuckers do.
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Whitehat is for chumps

                                                                                                                                                                                                    If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • scottybuzz
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • May 2006
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • 14799
                                                                                                                                                                                                        #100
                                                                                                                                                                                                        people who know how to get porn for free will just keep on finding new ways. my suggestion is go after those who have no idea. = seo
                                                                                                                                                                                                        $$$$$ MAKE HUGE MONEY IN CAMS - CLICK HERE $$$$$

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