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  • Brujah
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    • Jan 2001
    • 22157
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    Iraqi 14 yr old rape case

    The medic said that when he entered the house he found 14-year-old Abeer Qasim Hamza al-Janabi naked with her legs spread and burnt from the waist up, with a single bullet wound beneath her left eye.
    He had found her six-year-old sister in an adjacent room with the back of her head blown out, and the bodies of both parents riddled with bullets.

    http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/arti...-MAHMUDIYA.xml
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    • joshll
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      • Jul 2006
      • 1534
      #2
      that is fucking disgracefully disgusting.
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        • ContentSHOOTER
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          #3
          I hope the pricks that did that FRY
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            • MyNameIsNobody
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              • Dec 2005
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              #4
              no comment..

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                • Webby
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                  • Oct 2002
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                  #5
                  Originally posted by ContentSHOOTER
                  I hope the pricks that did that FRY
                  When you are talking about a group of individuals - not just an isolated scumbag - particpating in the murder and rape of innocent people, this is a war crime.

                  Others who played a role in an attempted coverup by burning or partially burning bodies, are also main character players.

                  All of them need their day in court to let as much of the whole truth as possible emerge - then fuck em hard.


                  PS There are now around ten separate incidents of similar conduct. It's obvious there is a sicko fucked mentality floating around (has similarities to GFY) - the sooner they are dealt with the better.
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                    • HpicAnn
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                      • Mar 2005
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                      #6
                      Sad this happens!
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                        • CaptainWolfy
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                          • Dec 2005
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                          #7
                          no comment.. , this is so sad

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                            • Rochard
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                              • Dec 2001
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                              #8
                              Originally posted by Webby
                              When you are talking about a group of individuals - not just an isolated scumbag - particpating in the murder and rape of innocent people, this is a war crime.
                              I'm not sure if this should be considered a war crime or not. While this is evil crime, I picture war crimes to be something done in bulk on a regular basis - which was planned by those in power of military forces.

                              But yes, this group of people needs to fry to set an example of who we are.
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                                • Webby
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                                  • Oct 2002
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                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by Rochard
                                  I'm not sure if this should be considered a war crime or not. While this is evil crime, I picture war crimes to be something done in bulk on a regular basis - which was planned by those in power of military forces.

                                  But yes, this group of people needs to fry to set an example of who we are.
                                  This specific stuff is exactly what a war crime is. The numbers of those killed is irrelevant in the specification of the crime - it can be one person or three million.

                                  To give credit to the investigating/prosecution officers, - they have already defined this incident as a war crime.
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                                    • nico-t
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                                      • Aug 2004
                                      • 29901
                                      #10
                                      its a fucking mess right now in iraq.... at least saddam had them under control

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                                        • DWB
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                                          • Jul 2003
                                          • 31779
                                          #11
                                          that is fucking horrible.

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                                            • xmetrix
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                                              • Nov 2005
                                              • 37
                                              #12
                                              Woohoo! And when the ignorant soldiers of the US armed services return to the us, released back into the general population as a civilian, how do you think they're going to adjust. I say, keep them in iraq/iran/jordan/peru/tuvalu/chicago/wherever until they die in war. Yay!

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                                                • xmetrix
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                                                  #13
                                                  Seriously though, no pictures, what a crock of shit. Keeping people sheltered from reality and for what?

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                                                    • Magix
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                                                      #14
                                                      fuckd ....damn this is shit....and why do i entered this thread damn it feels so damn sad now
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                                                        • ContentSHOOTER
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                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by Webby
                                                          When you are talking about a group of individuals - not just an isolated scumbag - particpating in the murder and rape of innocent people, this is a war crime.

                                                          Others who played a role in an attempted coverup by burning or partially burning bodies, are also main character players.

                                                          All of them need their day in court to let as much of the whole truth as possible emerge - then fuck em hard.


                                                          PS There are now around ten separate incidents of similar conduct. It's obvious there is a sicko fucked mentality floating around (has similarities to GFY) - the sooner they are dealt with the better.

                                                          I was listening to CNN International, they were saying that the people involved were under a tremendous amout of stress. Hardly justification
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                                                            • Harry Red
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                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by nico-t
                                                              its a fucking mess right now in iraq.... at least saddam had them under control
                                                              Exactly my words, dude.
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                                                                • Webby
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                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                  • 14956
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by ContentSHOOTER

                                                                  I was listening to CNN International, they were saying that the people involved were under a tremendous amout of stress. Hardly justification
                                                                  True... there is going to be stress - however, agree - what kind of "stress" makes a guy rape a 14 year old girl then shoot her and burn her body?

                                                                  In fairness to the defendants and remaining victims families, this is a possible scenario which could be better dealt with by the International Criminal Court where the standards and quality of representation/advocacy is much higher in both counsel and judges. Other factor is it takes it out of the "front line" and, not criticising the military prosecution/defense, - but there are higher standards for justice at this level. Unfortunately Bush elected not to permit access to the ICC for US forces.
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                                                                    • majorbitch
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                                                                      #18
                                                                      That's horrible.. =\ ..

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                                                                        • notabook
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                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by ContentSHOOTER

                                                                          I was listening to CNN International, they were saying that the people involved were under a tremendous amout of stress. Hardly justification
                                                                          lol... I could seriously see them trying that shit in court. "You see, the CEO of Worldcom was under a tremendous amount of stress, that's why he had to steal all those millions of dollars, don't you see!?"

                                                                          "Judge: Why yes I do... your story has brought tears to everyone here, nobody in the world of anything has ever had stress before. You are free to go... STRAIGHT TO JAIL BITCH, did you mother fucking stupid asshole actually think that STRESS was going to be enough of a reason? Fucktards, all of you! Get the fuck out of my court."

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                                                                            • Installer
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                                                                              • Aug 2006
                                                                              • 11
                                                                              #20
                                                                              These guys will be fucked hard in their asses.

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                                                                                • Lazonby
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                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Remember people, that just because this was done by soldiers doesn't make it a warcrime.

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                                                                                        • psili
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                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          ...playing cards and drinking whiskey mixed with an energy drink...

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                                                                                            • Webby
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                                                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                                                              • 14956
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by Lazonby
                                                                                              Remember people, that just because this was done by soldiers doesn't make it a warcrime.
                                                                                              What you think it is? A Sunday afternoon picnic??

                                                                                              The US military prosecution have already stated they are dealing with the trial on the basis of a war crime. If convicted, that is basis of the conviction - rape and murder as crimes committed outside the "laws of war".
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                                                                                                • Vitasoy
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                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  That is just fucked up


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                                                                                                    • p1mpdogg
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                                                                                                      • Nov 2002
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                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      this country sucks

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                                                                                                        • reynold
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                                                                                                          • Oct 2002
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                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          That was so horrible. War crime or not, the important thing important is justice to be served as soon as possible.

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                                                                                                            • E$_manager
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                                                                                                              • Apr 2006
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                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              that was war crime. they cover with war to commit murders.
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                                                                                                                • sixxxthsense
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                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by reynold
                                                                                                                  That was so horrible. War crime or not, the important thing important is justice to be served as soon as possible.
                                                                                                                  how can you justify this?
                                                                                                                  are they going to gangfuck those soldiers and shoot them?

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                                                                                                                    • 12clicks
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                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Webby
                                                                                                                      Unfortunately Bush elected not to permit access to the ICC for US forces.
                                                                                                                      No law stands above that of the United States. Period.
                                                                                                                      The ICC is for you lesser nations.
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                                                                                                                        • TheLegacy
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                                                                                                                          though I have never been in the military - I wonder if soldiers are trained to not think of those they are fighting against as human... much less their families... they simply are the enemy and you.. your part of a country that has the right to stand up for whatever.. and do whatever it takes to get it done.

                                                                                                                          your not suppose to question orders.. merely fill them out. you are then desensitized to your own personal ethics of right or wrong. blowing that further along.. some soldiers feel that they are above any law.. and they don't see kids or women.. they only see holes they can fuck if needed
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                                                                                                                            • Webby
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                                                                                                                              • Oct 2002
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                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Shit - the more that comes out from this hearing, - it just gets worse.

                                                                                                                              So much for claims of being "under stress" - the assholes were enjoying a drink and practising golf strokes before deciding to go and kill a few Iraqis.

                                                                                                                              Below is a press summary of a written statement taken from Barker (one of the accused) by an investigator.

                                                                                                                              Troops 'took turns' to rape Iraqi

                                                                                                                              A US military hearing has examined testimony of how three soldiers took it in turns to try to rape an Iraqi girl aged 14 in Mahmudiya in March.

                                                                                                                              The girl and three family members were allegedly killed by four US soldiers.

                                                                                                                              The case is the latest in a series of scandals for the US army.

                                                                                                                              Graphic details of the attack at the family's home came in a sworn statement by one of the accused, James P Barker.

                                                                                                                              The preliminary hearing will decide whether to court-martial the four. The case is one of a series of atrocities blamed on US forces in Iraq.

                                                                                                                              Along with Sergeant Paul Cortez, Private Jesse Spielman, and Private Bryan Howard, Specialist Barker is charged with rape and murder.

                                                                                                                              The four are alleged to have helped a former private - Steven Green, who has since left the army - plan, carry out and cover up the attack. Mr Green has pleaded not guilty in a federal court and will be tried separately in the US.

                                                                                                                              A fifth soldier is alleged to have lied to cover up for his colleagues.

                                                                                                                              'Whisky and golf'

                                                                                                                              Investigator Benjamin Bierce interviewed Mr Barker, 23, on 30 June and took down his statement, he told the hearing at a US military base in Baghdad.

                                                                                                                              On the day of the attack the soldiers had been drinking Iraqi whisky mixed with an energy drink and practising golf strokes at a checkpoint south of Baghdad, Mr Barker's statement said.

                                                                                                                              One of the soldiers, Steven Green, said he "wanted to go to a house and kill some Iraqis," it alleged.

                                                                                                                              The four eventually went to a house about 200 metres (yards) away and put the parents and their five-year old daughter in the bedroom, but kept the older girl in the living room.

                                                                                                                              According to Mr Barker's statement, he and Mr Cortez took it in turns to rape or attempt to rape her.

                                                                                                                              Mr Barker heard shots from the bedroom, and Steven Green emerged with an AK-47 in his hand saying "They're all dead. I just killed them."

                                                                                                                              Steven Green, who has pleaded not guilty, is being tried separately

                                                                                                                              According to the testimony, Mr Green then also raped the girl and shot her dead.

                                                                                                                              Her body was doused in kerosene and set alight.

                                                                                                                              The first day of the hearing on Sunday saw an Iraqi army medic describe how he found the bodies of the four Iraqis.

                                                                                                                              He told prosecutors he was ill for weeks after witnessing the crime scene.

                                                                                                                              Proceedings are expected to continue for several days.
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                                                                                                                                • Drake
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                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  This kind of thing happens in all wars unfortunately. When some people have absolute power over others, they abuse it.

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                                                                                                                                    • Webby
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                                                                                                                                      • Oct 2002
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                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                                                                                      No law stands above that of the United States. Period.
                                                                                                                                      The ICC is for you lesser nations.
                                                                                                                                      Your crap is totally inappropriate.
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                                                                                                                                        • 12clicks
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                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Webby
                                                                                                                                          Your crap is totally inappropriate.
                                                                                                                                          nope, yours is.
                                                                                                                                          your idiot politics have no place here.
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                                                                                                                                            • Degenerate
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                                                                                                                                              That is just AWFUL.
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                                                                                                                                                • E$_manager
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                                                                                                                                                  • Apr 2006
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                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  yes, where is the justice? Does anybody knows? There is no black and white that is why you can't say that one side it good and other - bad.
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                                                                                                                                                    • 12clicks
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                                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2001
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                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Mike33
                                                                                                                                                      This kind of thing happens in all wars unfortunately. When some people have absolute power over others, they abuse it.
                                                                                                                                                      the weird thing is these hundreds and hundreds of iraqis being killed by each other without a single comment. We have a few bad eggs who'll end up in jail forever and its an outrage.
                                                                                                                                                      I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                                                                                        • Webby
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                                                                                                                                                          • Oct 2002
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                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                                                                                                          nope, yours is.
                                                                                                                                                          your idiot politics have no place here.
                                                                                                                                                          My "politics" don't have fuck all to do with trash like you.

                                                                                                                                                          This is not another fucking stupid US political thread - it's about a kid being raped, shot and set on fire and her family being killed off by other stupid scum just like you. Your attitude totally stinks.

                                                                                                                                                          Take your silly defensive bullshit and stuff it up your anal retentive ass.
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                                                                                                                                                            • reynold
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                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by sixxxthsense
                                                                                                                                                              how can you justify this?
                                                                                                                                                              are they going to gangfuck those soldiers and shoot them?

                                                                                                                                                              If it is within the bounds of law, then why not?

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                                                                                                                                                                • E$_manager
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                                                                                                                                                                  the most sad thing is that is AWFUL but this is not the only case and not the last one i guess. THis is war.
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                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Webby
                                                                                                                                                                      What you think it is? A Sunday afternoon picnic??

                                                                                                                                                                      The US military prosecution have already stated they are dealing with the trial on the basis of a war crime. If convicted, that is basis of the conviction - rape and murder as crimes committed outside the "laws of war".
                                                                                                                                                                      Asswipe, it is a simple case of murder and rape and will be tried as such under the UCMJ.

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                                                                                                                                                                        • Webby
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                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Sexxxy Sites
                                                                                                                                                                          Asswipe, it is a simple case of murder and rape and will be tried as such under the UCMJ.
                                                                                                                                                                          You have a problem - see a shrink and explain to him about "a simple case of murder and rape".
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                                                                                                                                                                              You'd have done the same thing if you were in his situation.
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                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by nico-t
                                                                                                                                                                                  its a fucking mess right now in iraq.... at least saddam had them under control
                                                                                                                                                                                  A-FUCKING-MEN!

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                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by goldrush
                                                                                                                                                                                      You'd have done the same thing if you were in his situation.
                                                                                                                                                                                      WTF are you talking about??

                                                                                                                                                                                      Who is "you" and who is "his"??
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                                                                                                                                                                                          Why do you hate America ?
                                                                                                                                                                                          I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                                                                                                                                                                          But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • Webby
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                                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by directfiesta
                                                                                                                                                                                              Why do you hate America ?
                                                                                                                                                                                              Was going to ask you the same question - damned Canadian

                                                                                                                                                                                              I hate ignorant scumbags who only have the ability to ooze utter hyprocracy (it needs to turn "political" tho) and attempt to put up pathetic spew as excuses and a "defense" for multiple murders and rape of kids. Unfortunately most of that idiocy clearly comes from a sicko element in the US - no other country would dream of defending it. Why are there so many political warped sickos around here?

                                                                                                                                                                                              Got to say the level of disgust is "substantial" - all they can think of is "self" and attempting to defend their damned country - not about the victims of their crimes while engaged in "freedom and democracy" in Iraq (add Vietnam and elsewhere).

                                                                                                                                                                                              So.. I must be a US hater living in a "third world country" then - so be it

                                                                                                                                                                                              The trash who were blessed with a mouth and an idiot brain let the US down badly and are no better than the scum who raped a kid and murdered her and her family - by choice. There is a plus side in that the idiots here do not represent the US - here's a quote from the prosecuting officer illustrating his intent:

                                                                                                                                                                                              "US soldiers must follow the laws of war... These soldiers did just the opposite," Capt Mackey said.

                                                                                                                                                                                              "For this, they are not war heroes, they are war criminals. And justice states that they face trial."
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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Matt 26z
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Apr 2002
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Day by day the war in Iraq is turning into a mirror of Vietnam.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Our guys started to snap, then we pulled out "because there is nothing more we can do" and then of course the bad guys did their thing once we left.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      History is about to repeat itself.

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