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  • Wolfy
    Confirmed User
    • Dec 2003
    • 3574

    #1

    building my first paysite!

    Help a brutha out with some tips - how can I make it look like there is more content in the members area, how can I best generate cross sales, WHO should I cross sell to... amateur niche.
  • andrej_NDC
    Registered User
    • May 2004
    • 7760

    #2
    1.) Be honest with the tour, it will pay off in the long run.
    2.) Forget about cross sales for now, get sales first.

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    • godisdead
      Confirmed User
      • Jun 2006
      • 1213

      #3
      Originally posted by Wolfy
      how can I make it look like there is more content in the members area
      Have more content in the members area. Or display the content you already have better. Improve your sales pages.

      Originally posted by Wolfy
      how can I best generate cross sales, WHO should I cross sell to... amateur niche.
      Contact other paysites in the amateur niche and ask for cross sale.

      You'd first have to make sure that you have a decent conversion rate in general. This will increase your possibility of successfully converting other paysites to joint venture with you.
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      • tony299
        lurker
        • Aug 2002
        • 57021

        #4
        worse time to get in to adult find another hobby

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        • Wolfy
          Confirmed User
          • Dec 2003
          • 3574

          #5
          I totally appreciate that, but i don't have much fear about getting sales - I have my own traffic and I know how good it is. I was telling one of my models kind of the same thing - she wanted to put her best pics up in the tour and the galleries, but I believe that will only lead to chargebacks.

          One thing I definately need, though, is more content - and my budget is running THIN.

          Any suggestions?

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          • Wolfy
            Confirmed User
            • Dec 2003
            • 3574

            #6
            Originally posted by tony404
            worse time to get in to adult find another hobby
            haha, your name just gave me another question - what's the best kind of 404 page for a new paysite?

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            • Wolfy
              Confirmed User
              • Dec 2003
              • 3574

              #7
              I mean, should I give one popup and then redirect to the main page, should I use one of them funky "open directory" looking pages....

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              • Wolfy
                Confirmed User
                • Dec 2003
                • 3574

                #8
                I <3 surfers

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                • Lykos
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Apr 2003
                  • 31027

                  #9
                  good luck with it mate!

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                  • Violetta
                    Affiliate
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 28735

                    #10
                    My budget was thin as hell when I started my site(s) over a year ago. Just buy some new content every month when the money comes in. Running and building a paysite costs your shirt. Be aware!
                    M&A Queen

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                    • Wolfy
                      Confirmed User
                      • Dec 2003
                      • 3574

                      #11
                      I figured as much, I spent $500 on content so far and after I put it together I looked at it, like... oh hell, this aint shit!

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                      • Kristian
                        Confirmed User
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 3733

                        #12
                        Originally posted by andrej_NDC
                        1.) Be honest with the tour, it will pay off in the long run.
                        2.) Forget about cross sales for now, get sales first.

                        I dont own or run a paysite, but this seems like excellent advice. And Andrej should know, if anyone does.

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                        • Wolfy
                          Confirmed User
                          • Dec 2003
                          • 3574

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Kristian
                          I dont own or run a paysite, but this seems like excellent advice. And Andrej should know, if anyone does.
                          it does sound good indeed - I've been in sales for many years, and it's always better to underpromise and overdeliver.

                          Not always possible, but always better :D

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                          • GlamourGirlContent
                            Confirmed User
                            • Feb 2006
                            • 559

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Wolfy
                            I figured as much, I spent $500 on content so far and after I put it together I looked at it, like... oh hell, this aint shit!
                            Hey Wolfy,
                            I cannot really help you with your problem and I don't kn ow where you got your content from but if you need some real good content in the future you might keep us in your mind! We can always work a good deal out, for both of us!
                            Just take a look...

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                            • Wolfy
                              Confirmed User
                              • Dec 2003
                              • 3574

                              #15
                              Originally posted by GlamourGirlContent
                              Hey Wolfy,
                              I cannot really help you with your problem and I don't kn ow where you got your content from but if you need some real good content in the future you might keep us in your mind! We can always work a good deal out, for both of us!
                              Just take a look...

                              http://www.glamourgirlcontent.com/
                              thanks buddy - bookmarked.

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                              • The Ghost
                                IslandDollars.com
                                • Oct 2004
                                • 12188

                                #16
                                Originally posted by andrej_NDC
                                1.) Be honest with the tour, it will pay off in the long run.
                                2.) Forget about cross sales for now, get sales first.
                                Agreed. Not being honest in the tour is one of the cardinal sins of having a site. Unless you want chargebacks and a huge amount of added agrevation for no reason.

                                Since you have your own traffic, the question you really need to consider is if you would truly make more money sending it to your own site. It may seem like a good idea and is, but only under the assumption that you would convert it at the same or higher rate if you sent it to a good sponsor with a similar retention rate.

                                I'm sure you know that the entire membership price is not profit. It's a gross that is reduced by processing fees, hosting, content, promo material and a hundred other things. I'm on icq if you would like to talk more. Good luck.
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                                • babymaker
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jan 2004
                                  • 4751

                                  #17
                                  good advice Ghost :D

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                                  • fallenmuffin
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Nov 2005
                                    • 8170

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Wolfy
                                    haha, your name just gave me another question - what's the best kind of 404 page for a new paysite?
                                    Back to the main tour....

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                                    • V_RocKs
                                      Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                      • Nov 2003
                                      • 32451

                                      #19
                                      Hmm... $500 for content is a VERY LOW amount...

                                      You could look for a financial backer to inflate the members area 10 fold. Often you will find people who have money but no drive... Airek runs RageCash which makes a lot of money. He doesn't own it. Someone else does. You might want to look into getting a financial backer and sharing the profit with this person.

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                                      • Wolfy
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Dec 2003
                                        • 3574

                                        #20
                                        Thanks V, good advice.

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                                        • Wolfy
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Dec 2003
                                          • 3574

                                          #21
                                          Thanks V, good advice.

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                                          • H0witzer
                                            So Fucking Banned
                                            • Aug 2006
                                            • 33

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Wolfy
                                            building my first paysite! .
                                            dont bother.. you will lose all your $ and time

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                                            • avalanche
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Feb 2005
                                              • 1922

                                              #23
                                              For $500 you'd be better at free sites, submitting....go buy some partner accounts.
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                                              • andrej_NDC
                                                Registered User
                                                • May 2004
                                                • 7760

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Kristian
                                                I dont own or run a paysite, but this seems like excellent advice. And Andrej should know, if anyone does.
                                                Hey bud, long time no see.

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                                                • andrej_NDC
                                                  Registered User
                                                  • May 2004
                                                  • 7760

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by The Ghost
                                                  Agreed. Not being honest in the tour is one of the cardinal sins of having a site. Unless you want chargebacks and a huge amount of added agrevation for no reason.

                                                  Since you have your own traffic, the question you really need to consider is if you would truly make more money sending it to your own site. It may seem like a good idea and is, but only under the assumption that you would convert it at the same or higher rate if you sent it to a good sponsor with a similar retention rate.

                                                  I'm sure you know that the entire membership price is not profit. It's a gross that is reduced by processing fees, hosting, content, promo material and a hundred other things. I'm on icq if you would like to talk more. Good luck.
                                                  Exactly, a membership of $29.95 can be easily $10 profit. Then its better to promote some good sponsor and get $15-20 from such a membership. But I say risk it, if you work clever, you will make more when you learn how to run the program properly.

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                                                  • adonthenet
                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                    • Feb 2005
                                                    • 16753

                                                    #26
                                                    y0 bro
                                                    hit me up asap. on icq : 338847113
                                                    or email me : [email protected]

                                                    I will hook you up with AMAZING CONTENT for fucking cheap
                                                    get you started mate
                                                    contact me. waiting for your email / icq.

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                                                    • Wolfy
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Dec 2003
                                                      • 3574

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by adonthenet
                                                      y0 bro
                                                      hit me up asap. on icq : 338847113
                                                      or email me : [email protected]

                                                      I will hook you up with AMAZING CONTENT for fucking cheap
                                                      get you started mate
                                                      contact me. waiting for your email / icq.
                                                      you're not on ICQ - I'll email.

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                                                      • DutchTeenCash
                                                        I like Dutch Girls
                                                        • Feb 2003
                                                        • 21684

                                                        #28
                                                        $500 is not gonna make a single surfer happy

                                                        I hope thats non exclusive, cause thatll be like 8-10 series times 50 pics then? If you wanna charge a serious amount aff like, like 24.95 or so at least have some more decent aka exclusive content

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