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  • RyuLion
    • Mar 2003
    • 32386

    #51
    yeap, this is not good at all..

    Adult Biz Consultant A tech head since 1995
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    • Martin
      "Assassins"
      • Dec 2001
      • 17274

      #52
      Originally posted by Keyser Soze

      Great idea dude.

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      • AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
        Purveyor, Fine Asian Porn
        • Jul 2004
        • 38323

        #53
        Didn't know that Paycom initiated the first suit...

        AVN needs to dig deeper.

        This is gonna be expensive $$$

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        • Well Dunn
          Confirmed User
          • Sep 2005
          • 1026

          #54
          wow this could either be huge, or end up not a big deal. I am having a hard time picking a side, because not all of the facts are out there yet.
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          • mikesouth
            Confirmed User
            • Jun 2003
            • 6340

            #55
            Gee CCBill needs to forget suing paycom and implement direct deposit


            thats my two cents...
            Mike South

            It's No wonder I took up drugs and alcohol, it's the only way I could dumb myself down enough to cope with the morons in this biz.

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            • BVF
              Black Vagina Finder
              • Jan 2002
              • 13975

              #56
              Just make sure my wire keeps coming on time...

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              • Rand
                Industry Vet
                • Jan 2002
                • 2663

                #57
                We were extremely disappointed with CCBill's mischaracterization of the facts and attempt to disparage Paycom's stellar reputation. There has been no corporate raiding. Paycom merely accomodated the requests of 2 employees looking to make a lifestyle change.

                While their former employer tried to shackle them with onerous covenants not to compete legal counsel has determined that they are clearly unenforceable both in California and Arizona as the legal proceedings will confirm. Paycom has no interest in, or need for, any trade secrets. Paycom already knows all the players in the industry and our innovative technology such as the launch of our venture with MPA3 has no use for anything that CCBill has to offer. In compliance with applicable law, Paycom believes that every employee has a right to work wherever they want and when approached by talent such as Patrick Curran and David Salonic we are not willing to let draconian restraints on a person's right to work get in our way.

                We believe that the best way to keep an employee is to have a great atmosphere, great product and a great company. We frankly cannot understand what it is that CCBill is really afraid of? Competition?

                The Epoch Family
                -- Rand


                Payment Industry - Communications - Quality Assurance

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                • Daruma
                  Confirmed User
                  • Nov 2002
                  • 3494

                  #58
                  Originally posted by Rand
                  We were extremely disappointed with CCBill's mischaracterization of the facts and attempt to disparage Paycom's stellar reputation. There has been no corporate raiding. Paycom merely accomodated the requests of 2 employees looking to make a lifestyle change.

                  While their former employer tried to shackle them with onerous covenants not to compete legal counsel has determined that they are clearly unenforceable both in California and Arizona as the legal proceedings will confirm. Paycom has no interest in, or need for, any trade secrets. Paycom already knows all the players in the industry and our innovative technology such as the launch of our venture with MPA3 has no use for anything that CCBill has to offer. In compliance with applicable law, Paycom believes that every employee has a right to work wherever they want and when approached by talent such as Patrick Curran and David Salonic we are not willing to let draconian restraints on a person's right to work get in our way.

                  We believe that the best way to keep an employee is to have a great atmosphere, great product and a great company. We frankly cannot understand what it is that CCBill is really afraid of? Competition?

                  The Epoch Family

                  you almost sound like a lawyer

                  too bad this whole thing is only going to make a few lawyers more wealthy and waste a lot of time of the good minds in both companies - it would be nice if all of this energy on both sides went to better ratios, features and developing more solid and innovative solutions for the upcoming years ahead of everyone

                  RIP TD

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                  • SteveLightspeed
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jul 2001
                    • 7940

                    #59
                    Originally posted by Rand
                    We were extremely disappointed with CCBill's mischaracterization of the facts and attempt to disparage Paycom's stellar reputation. There has been no corporate raiding. Paycom merely accomodated the requests of 2 employees looking to make a lifestyle change.

                    While their former employer tried to shackle them with onerous covenants not to compete legal counsel has determined that they are clearly unenforceable both in California and Arizona as the legal proceedings will confirm. Paycom has no interest in, or need for, any trade secrets. Paycom already knows all the players in the industry and our innovative technology such as the launch of our venture with MPA3 has no use for anything that CCBill has to offer. In compliance with applicable law, Paycom believes that every employee has a right to work wherever they want and when approached by talent such as Patrick Curran and David Salonic we are not willing to let draconian restraints on a person's right to work get in our way.

                    We believe that the best way to keep an employee is to have a great atmosphere, great product and a great company. We frankly cannot understand what it is that CCBill is really afraid of? Competition?

                    The Epoch Family

                    With all due respect Rand, I would bet that Epoch would react similarly if two of its senior managers left abruptly for CCBill.

                    Epoch and CCBill are both great companies. Both companies would be attractive places to work. If Epoch doesn't need Patrick's inside knowledge of CCBill and its operations, then why didn't Epoch choose the high ground and avoid hiring from your biggest competitor? Isn't that the ethical thing to do?

                    Surely you knew this would start a battle between companies. You must get dozens of qualified resumes weekly. So, in your own words, WHAT ARE YOU REALLY AFRAID OF?

                    Steve Lightspeed
                    Abra-cadabra!

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                    • Rochard
                      Jägermeister Test Pilot
                      • Dec 2001
                      • 75764

                      #60
                      Very interesting!

                      Herschel Savage
                      Brooklyn, NY

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                      • OG LennyT
                        Wall Street Pimp
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 14345

                        #61
                        theres more to this than stealing trade secrets.. its personal

                        just my humble observation
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                        • SteveLightspeed
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jul 2001
                          • 7940

                          #62
                          Originally posted by Rand
                          We were extremely disappointed with CCBill's mischaracterization of the facts and attempt to disparage Paycom's stellar reputation. There has been no corporate raiding. Paycom merely accomodated the requests of 2 employees looking to make a lifestyle change.

                          While their former employer tried to shackle them with onerous covenants not to compete legal counsel has determined that they are clearly unenforceable both in California and Arizona as the legal proceedings will confirm. Paycom has no interest in, or need for, any trade secrets. Paycom already knows all the players in the industry and our innovative technology such as the launch of our venture with MPA3 has no use for anything that CCBill has to offer. In compliance with applicable law, Paycom believes that every employee has a right to work wherever they want and when approached by talent such as Patrick Curran and David Salonic we are not willing to let draconian restraints on a person's right to work get in our way.

                          We believe that the best way to keep an employee is to have a great atmosphere, great product and a great company. We frankly cannot understand what it is that CCBill is really afraid of? Competition?

                          The Epoch Family
                          So is this the official "ok" for Epochs employees to seek employment at CCBill without fear of legal repercussions? Epoch won't try to enforce any non-compete contracts or restrictions? IMO, this is an ugly can of worms that you are opening here.
                          Abra-cadabra!

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                          • Tom_PM
                            Porn Meister
                            • Feb 2005
                            • 16443

                            #63
                            Well, their non-compete contracts are probably different. It's lawyers opinions and such.

                            As an affiliate who likes both parties, get it settled folks. Thanks
                            43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

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                            • Bladewire
                              StraightBro
                              • Aug 2003
                              • 56220

                              #64
                              The stability of our industry is at stake here and terms like "corporate raid" are hinting at things that we don't know are going on behind the scenes.

                              As far as processing we mainly have Epoch, CCBill and Verotel. Is there really so little money to go around that things have to go this route?

                              I can't help but to think that greed & power is involved here where it clearly isn't necessary.

                              We are a small industry and we all know that not playing well with others can ruin a companies reputation.


                              Skype: CallTomNow

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                              • V_RocKs
                                Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                • Nov 2003
                                • 32467

                                #65
                                Why does someone need Patrick to see the CCBILL info?

                                Just hire a hacker...

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                                • s9ann0
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Sep 2001
                                  • 4873

                                  #66
                                  can't we all just get along?

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                                  • xlogger
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Jul 2004
                                    • 9507

                                    #67
                                    Damn, Paycom playing dirty? LOLOL, nice. Forget all the ethical bullshit.
                                    Last edited by xlogger; 08-04-2006, 10:14 PM.

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                                    • V_RocKs
                                      Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                      • Nov 2003
                                      • 32467

                                      #68
                                      Originally posted by xlogger
                                      Damn, Paycom playing dirty? LOLOL, nice. Forget all the ethical bullshit.
                                      After all we are all in adult...

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                                      • 4Pics
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Dec 2001
                                        • 7952

                                        #69
                                        holy cow!!!

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                                        • Theo
                                          HAL 9000
                                          • May 2001
                                          • 34515

                                          #70
                                          Originally posted by SteveLightspeed
                                          So is this the official "ok" for Epochs employees to seek employment at CCBill without fear of legal repercussions? Epoch won't try to enforce any non-compete contracts or restrictions? IMO, this is an ugly can of worms that you are opening here.

                                          lol dont expect a reply on this

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                                          • Sebastian Sands
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Mar 2005
                                            • 5223

                                            #71
                                            lol.. ofcourse you know who the players are, i think everyone knows this. I was trying to set up Epoch and you had the guts to tell me at Internext in Las Vegas that if I didnt process 50K per month through you (you have no clue what I own and process) , you had no time to talk to me.. No wonder you need the pro's from CC bill to get shit done.. I am still waiting for my email that was promissed the last time I mentioned this in a thread.

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                                            • Sebastian Sands
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Mar 2005
                                              • 5223

                                              #72
                                              Originally posted by Sebastian Sands
                                              lol.. ofcourse you know who the players are, i think everyone knows this. I was trying to set up Epoch and you had the guts to tell me at Internext in Las Vegas that if I didnt process 50K per month through you (you have no clue what I own and process) , you had no time to talk to me.. No wonder you need the pro's from CC bill to get shit done.. I am still waiting for my email that was promissed the last time I mentioned this in a thread.
                                              Not to mention your rep jerked me around for 3 days and have me come back to your booth at least 8 times. It really left me with a bad taste in my mouth after this BS. Plus after seeing me 8 times the dude still couldn't say my name correctly even though he could have just taken it from my badge..

                                              Can you tell I am frustrated with you and your "Family".. ?

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                                              • xNetworx
                                                So Fucking What
                                                • Jan 2004
                                                • 14445

                                                #73
                                                I hope this can be settled out of court.

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                                                • Rui
                                                  web
                                                  • Dec 2001
                                                  • 9533

                                                  #74
                                                  Originally posted by Sebastian Sands
                                                  Not to mention your rep jerked me around for 3 days and have me come back to your booth at least 8 times. It really left me with a bad taste in my mouth after this BS. Plus after seeing me 8 times the dude still couldn't say my name correctly even though he could have just taken it from my badge..

                                                  Can you tell I am frustrated with you and your "Family".. ?
                                                  What I wonder is why did you wasted more time with them after beeing treated like shit...

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                                                  • Sebastian Sands
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Mar 2005
                                                    • 5223

                                                    #75
                                                    Originally posted by Rui
                                                    What I wonder is why did you wasted more time with them after beeing treated like shit...
                                                    Hoping for an answer on things and at first I didn't let my personal feelings get in the way of maybe a good business oportunity.

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                                                    • Lykos
                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                      • Apr 2003
                                                      • 31027

                                                      #76
                                                      thats cool,lol

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                                                      • jcsike
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Jan 2006
                                                        • 689

                                                        #77
                                                        Originally posted by Rand



                                                        While their former employer tried to shackle them with onerous covenants not to compete legal counsel has determined that they are clearly unenforceable both in California and Arizona as the legal proceedings will confirm.
                                                        You may have just set a disastrous precedence for your employees, don't they read this board?

                                                        Rand, you should consider working for CCBill, I bet they would take good care of you.

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