How 'scared' do you have to be promoting celebs?

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  • Naughty
    Confirmed User
    • Jul 2001
    • 6482

    #1

    How 'scared' do you have to be promoting celebs?

    You hear a lot of mambo jambo about celeb content. I do know AVS systems do not allow Britney Galleries for example, due to lawsuits.

    When are you in real trouble when you show pictures of celebs? I know that unless you have a licence, you're doing something that is not really allowed, but when are you at a point they close you down? Do you have to sell your content to others before you get in trouble? Or do simple galleries get you in trouble also?
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  • Trax
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    • Aug 2001
    • 14486

    #2
    well... i´m sure you already know the answer
    if you use any pics that show celebs.. nude or not and you don´t have a license...illegal..

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    • [Labret]
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      • May 2001
      • 10945

      #3

      Tell JoeE that.

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      • pr0
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        • May 2001
        • 23088

        #4
        no shit...tell everyone & their mother that.

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        • Naughty
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          • Jul 2001
          • 6482

          #5
          Originally posted by Trax:
          well... i´m sure you already know the answer
          if you use any pics that show celebs.. nude or not and you don´t have a license...illegal..
          If you read the post, that was NOT the question!

          I asked "How scared do you have to be?",
          "When are you in real trouble when you show pictures of celebs?", "When are you at a point they close you down?" and "Do simple galleries get you in trouble also?"

          None of these questions entailed the question if it was legal or not.

          Thanks anywayz
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          • codecrawler
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            • Oct 2001
            • 297

            #6
            You get in trouble(serious trouble) when:

            You use content of celebs not licensed to you
            (APIC or Webposse will have a field day)

            I know ex celeb webmasters still paying the fines for sites they ran 4 years back.

            When you use names of Celebrities on your site that are copyrighted or even trademarked.

            Good examples Alicia Milano and Britney Spears(I think they will allow this for educational means )

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            • [Labret]
              Registered User
              • May 2001
              • 10945

              #7

              Let put it this way, they will take your freehost account away and send you mean emails.

              Jail time? I would like to meet the guy who goes to jail for running a celeb site.

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              • Naughty
                Confirmed User
                • Jul 2001
                • 6482

                #8
                Originally posted by [Labret]:

                Let put it this way, they will take your freehost account away and send you mean emails.
                haha, personal experience Labret?

                By the way, CC: Did they get a warning??



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                • Dopy
                  Confirmed User
                  • Feb 2001
                  • 1572

                  #9
                  Move to Russia and get yourself a Turkish PO Box then you can just go help yourself without any worries.

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                  • onlyreal
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jun 2001
                    • 853

                    #10
                    we donot have po boxes (greece have them cheapes in Europe using it)
                    also i know alotf people in jail for using fake cc s in net ...

                    so only thing sponsors must do is just sue them in Turkey

                    Originally posted by Dopy:
                    Move to Russia and get yourself a Turkish PO Box then you can just go help yourself without any worries.

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                    • Wiredoctor
                      Confirmed User
                      • Dec 2001
                      • 1632

                      #11
                      Whay is it that you post such a stupid question?? And then get stupid answers.
                      If you know it's wrong to post the pics, then why do you do it??
                      Can't you make a living being honest?

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                      • Sleepy
                        Confirmed User
                        • Nov 2001
                        • 679

                        #12
                        High Society Magazine and Celebrity Sleuth have been
                        publishing celebrity photos for about 20 years and
                        usually with no license. Even Playboy runs a sexiest
                        celebrity feature twice per year with no license to
                        the photos.

                        Its all about how you display the site. If its a site
                        called "celebritywhores" and its full of fakes on the
                        homepage .. well, your gonna get fucked.

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                        • Dopy
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                          • Feb 2001
                          • 1572

                          #13
                          Most celeb pics on the net have come from places like Hello Magazine etc, the owner has been paid and the publication got its rewards. I have a few celeb pages still kicking around and never had anyone complain.
                          If someone did complain then I would just remove the pics without question. Celebs feed off free publicity so its all a matter of using some common sense and making sure there is a contact address on each site.

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                          • heymatty
                            Confirmed User
                            • Oct 2001
                            • 2188

                            #14
                            Why are the processors not worried by celeb sites

                            ccbill for sites like the xxxpaycheck ones
                            ibill for that babylonx site

                            Surely they would come into the frame for legal action.

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                            • Dopy
                              Confirmed User
                              • Feb 2001
                              • 1572

                              #15
                              Mail the Daily Sport UK and they have all the answers.

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                              • Trax
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                                • Aug 2001
                                • 14486

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Naughty:
                                If you read the post, that was NOT the question!

                                I asked "How scared do you have to be?",
                                "When are you in real trouble when you show pictures of celebs?", "When are you at a point they close you down?" and "Do simple galleries get you in trouble also?"

                                None of these questions entailed the question if it was legal or not.

                                Thanks anywayz
                                yes.. iknow.. i wanted to name it again...you know guys that are not scared of it don´t care that its illegal.. thats what i wanted to express

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                                • Trax
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                                  • Aug 2001
                                  • 14486

                                  #17
                                  well.. as long as there is babylon-x and call-girls there are celeb sites...

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                                  • Dopy
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Feb 2001
                                    • 1572

                                    #18
                                    Celebs are public property, its the price they pay for fame and fortune. Promoters and sponsors know all about getting a free lunch.

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                                    • Chris R
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • May 2001
                                      • 1151

                                      #19
                                      There are plenty of "illegal" things that various webmasters do - some without even knowing it.

                                      Celebrity sites may or may not be one of them.

                                      Unless you run a cild porn site or rack up charges on peoples credit cards - you will almost certainly get a cease and desist letter before any legal action is taken.

                                      If anyone can point to a single legal case where this isn't the case (someone was awarded damges without an order for cease and desist) - I would love to see it.

                                      You want to make sure you have legitimate contact information. If you are really worried - set up a link and follow the terms of the DCMA - APIC and everyone else can do whatever they want - they aren't going to be able to do shit.

                                      I don't believe there is any legal precedent on fake celebrity photos (I checked all cases at the federal appeals level and could find none). I would think you would be much more likely to get in trouble for REAL celebrity photos - as these are clearly copyrighted - and any arguments of derivitive works would be hard to make.

                                      Is it illegal? I don't know. There are tons of sponsores out there with these sites. They would go after them before you. They will send you a letter/email if they want to complain.

                                      Even if you look at cases of what appears to be blatent copyright infringement - they are usually warned first - and even if they go to court - it is usually to get an injunction. These cases are some of the most expensive to pursue. They are not going to spend the time, effort, and money if you are willing to take down the photos they don't like.

                                      If they really have a case - they will go after the dozen or so popular sites that are all over the net making money month after month. What good is it to go after you when there are not going after the source of the "problem". It would be like going after individual napster users while leaving napster alone.

                                      How scared do you have to be? As long as these sites are up - I wouldn't worry.

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                                      • Naughty
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                                        • Jul 2001
                                        • 6482

                                        #20
                                        Thanks Chris, a voice of reason
                                        I won't worry about the few pics we have and use... we even have a note that says we will remove the pics right away after an email. Never heard a thing in a year or so.
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