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  • BlockThree
    Confirmed User
    • Jan 2008
    • 121

    #1

    is Chameleon better than Advanced Submitter?

    It's been 5 years since i've submitted. Advanced Submitter was awesome. But i see more posts about Chameleon now that im looking into it again.

    What's the low down? Is Advanced Submitter still just as good?

    Thanks.
  • NiftyStats Jenna
    Confirmed User
    • Dec 2007
    • 1243

    #2
    I vote for Chameleon, it's easy software with fresh database and it's our sponsor

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    • billywatson
      Confirmed User
      • Aug 2002
      • 3281

      #3
      Is submitting even worth it anymore?

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      • Babagirls
        Text Writer
        • Feb 2001
        • 18812

        #4
        I've always used Chameleon Submitter




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        • BlockThree
          Confirmed User
          • Jan 2008
          • 121

          #5
          Originally posted by billywatson
          Is submitting even worth it anymore?
          Good question, is it?

          If you can get a good amount of partner accounts and have nice gallery designs... can any money be made any more? i have a tiny goal of only 2 sales per day.

          Thanks

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          • 96ukssob
            So Fucking Banananananas
            • Mar 2003
            • 12991

            #6
            Originally posted by BlockThree
            Good question, is it?

            If you can get a good amount of partner accounts and have nice gallery designs... can any money be made any more? i have a tiny goal of only 2 sales per day.

            Thanks
            its not the same game as it was 5 or even 2 years ago IMO. a lot of TGP onwers now only allow partner accounts because of the vast amount of cheaters. the other problems is conversion ratios are horrible now for a TGP gallery. Maybe 3 years ago it was like 1 signup per every 5k gallery views (depending on niche, etc), but now its probably like 1 signup per 20k gallery views, if not higher.

            keep in mind the goal of the TGP webmaster is to make money too, so if his sales are slipping on his/her own galleries, they will start to charge for submission passes or partner accounts to try and make up for that, so factor that cost into your submit model as well.

            finally, keep in mind that a lot of surfers are finding there is tons of free content out their (tube sites to torrent sites) so that will also influence your outcome.

            IMO, if you are going to start submitting, you better have some really unique galleries (not fancy or flashly, but unique) and find a good niche you are familiar with to push. I dont mean a niche like "mature" but maybe "fat mature anal" galleries.

            good luck
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            • BlockThree
              Confirmed User
              • Jan 2008
              • 121

              #7
              Cool thanks for the advice. Sounds like if i do it right i can still squeeze a sale or 2 a day out of it. Thats all im really after... looks like the days of 25 sales a day are long gone! hehe.

              Originally posted by bossku69
              its not the same game as it was 5 or even 2 years ago IMO. a lot of TGP onwers now only allow partner accounts because of the vast amount of cheaters. the other problems is conversion ratios are horrible now for a TGP gallery. Maybe 3 years ago it was like 1 signup per every 5k gallery views (depending on niche, etc), but now its probably like 1 signup per 20k gallery views, if not higher.

              keep in mind the goal of the TGP webmaster is to make money too, so if his sales are slipping on his/her own galleries, they will start to charge for submission passes or partner accounts to try and make up for that, so factor that cost into your submit model as well.

              finally, keep in mind that a lot of surfers are finding there is tons of free content out their (tube sites to torrent sites) so that will also influence your outcome.

              IMO, if you are going to start submitting, you better have some really unique galleries (not fancy or flashly, but unique) and find a good niche you are familiar with to push. I dont mean a niche like "mature" but maybe "fat mature anal" galleries.

              good luck

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              • 96ukssob
                So Fucking Banananananas
                • Mar 2003
                • 12991

                #8
                Originally posted by BlockThree
                Cool thanks for the advice. Sounds like if i do it right i can still squeeze a sale or 2 a day out of it. Thats all im really after... looks like the days of 25 sales a day are long gone! hehe.
                You would probably need about $200 or so to get going. That would cover Chameleon Submitter and Partner Account Requester and i would also invest the $30 for Chameleon Confirmer, cause it will save you some time.

                then id spend a few bucks and get some basic galleries done.

                I use Arylia Gallery Builder to pop out a ton of galleries quick and works great for video and image galleries.

                In all, plan on spending probably about 2 to 3 hours a day and have some money to invest and you should be able to make it back quickly. Id hold off on buying submit passes until you see what happens with Partner Account Requester because you might bet 2-3 sales a day just from that.
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                • Babagirls
                  Text Writer
                  • Feb 2001
                  • 18812

                  #9
                  Originally posted by bossku69
                  ....you better have some really unique galleries (not fancy or flashly, but unique) and find a good niche you are familiar with to push. I dont mean a niche like "mature" but maybe "fat mature anal" galleries.
                  those new to the game, listen to the above advice.




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                  • Hinc
                    Confirmed User
                    • Oct 2004
                    • 2577

                    #10
                    Yep its better, but youre still running on the profit margins.
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                    • LeRoy
                      Porn Pusher
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 13364

                      #11
                      Hey there,

                      Ive used both and I think Chameleon is a bit better IMO

                      Try the LL submitter too and you'll be sure to get the 2 sales per day.

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                      • 96ukssob
                        So Fucking Banananananas
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 12991

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Hinc
                        Yep its better, but youre still running on the profit margins.
                        yeah but for those looking to make maybe like $50 a day its still possible. obliviously you cant make your Bentley payment with gallery submitting anymore like you could in 2002, but its still possible to make a few bucks.
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                        • BlockThree
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 121

                          #13
                          Originally posted by bossku69
                          yeah but for those looking to make maybe like $50 a day its still possible. obliviously you cant make your Bentley payment with gallery submitting anymore like you could in 2002, but its still possible to make a few bucks.
                          Good to know... i just want to use it for some extra $$. I miss the good old days when every major appliance in my house was from ARS points.

                          Anyone know any good thumb making software for Mac OS X? Something where i can just tell an app where my thumbs are for a gallery and have it spit out a thumbed html page i can drop into my gallery templates? I do not want to use the photoshop gallery thing.

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                          • Barefootsies
                            Choice is an Illusion
                            • Feb 2005
                            • 42635

                            #14
                            Both are dandy, I prefer CS.

                            However, that said, in the end it will come down to...

                            1. Niche.
                            2. Consistency.
                            3. Your DB (i.e. not just relying on theirs. research and add in your own)
                            4. How you maximize your gallery submits.


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                            • BlockThree
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 121

                              #15
                              Who is good to host with these days for galleries? When i last hosted, a 30mbps server was like $4k, now it seems bandwidth is cheaper than fun dip packets.

                              webair pretty reliable?

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                              • HorseShit
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Dec 2004
                                • 17513

                                #16
                                It's completely worth it, you might see 1 or 2 sales per month if you're pushing a lot of different sites, I mean you can live off $60 a month right?

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                                • BlockThree
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jan 2008
                                  • 121

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by jdavis
                                  It's completely worth it, you might see 1 or 2 sales per month if you're pushing a lot of different sites, I mean you can live off $60 a month right?
                                  obviously you did not have luck with galleries?

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                                  • 96ukssob
                                    So Fucking Banananananas
                                    • Mar 2003
                                    • 12991

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by BlockThree
                                    Good to know... i just want to use it for some extra $$. I miss the good old days when every major appliance in my house was from ARS points.

                                    Anyone know any good thumb making software for Mac OS X? Something where i can just tell an app where my thumbs are for a gallery and have it spit out a thumbed html page i can drop into my gallery templates? I do not want to use the photoshop gallery thing.
                                    Try out that Arylia gallery builder in the link above. I think they have an xmas deal going on right now, but he posts here on GFY if you have questions about it.

                                    you just make an easy gallery and you can upload zip files or a directory and will cut it out for you... basically doing everything you need to do for a gallery in less tahn 2 minutes.
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                                    • jollyperv
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Nov 2001
                                      • 3927

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                      3. Your DB (i.e. not just relying on theirs. research and add in your own)

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                                      • hypedough
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Sep 2007
                                        • 3743

                                        #20
                                        If you have your own accounts and database, go with Advanced. If you need a quick and updated database go with Chameleon.

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                                        • BlockThree
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jan 2008
                                          • 121

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by hypedough
                                          If you have your own accounts and database, go with Advanced. If you need a quick and updated database go with Chameleon.
                                          Ahh cool so Advanced is still a good app then? I was afraid it wasnt updated in forever or something. I would be using my own database for sure so maybe thats the route since i am already familiar with it.

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                                          • asianseekerz
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                                            • Aug 2008
                                            • 1609

                                            #22
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                                              • Iron Fist
                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                • Dec 2006
                                                • 23400

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by jdavis
                                                It's completely worth it, you might see 1 or 2 sales per month if you're pushing a lot of different sites, I mean you can live off $60 a month right?
                                                If your getting 1-2 sales a day and only making $60 a month then you suck. Right?
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                                                • cybermike
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                  • 4121

                                                  #25
                                                  too bad theres not a one time payment for chameleon without the db updates
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                                                  • Klen
                                                    • Aug 2006
                                                    • 32235

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by cybermike
                                                    too bad theres not a one time payment for chameleon without the db updates
                                                    Not just db updates then program stop to work totaly.

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                                                    • Ice
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Nov 2002
                                                      • 26053

                                                      #27
                                                      I wish someone would come out with a Mac OSX version
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                                                      • BlockThree
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Jan 2008
                                                        • 121

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Ice
                                                        I wish someone would come out with a Mac OSX version
                                                        me too, but parallels will have to do the job for now... i notice more and more os x peeps on here, maybe someday

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                                                        • HomerSimpson
                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                          • Sep 2005
                                                          • 13826

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by BlockThree
                                                          Who is good to host with these days for galleries? When i last hosted, a 30mbps server was like $4k, now it seems bandwidth is cheaper than fun dip packets.

                                                          webair pretty reliable?
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                                                          • pornguy
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                                                            • Mar 2003
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                                                            #30
                                                            Going to have to vote on chameleon.
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                                                            • Kudles
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                                                              • Feb 2003
                                                              • 5477

                                                              #31
                                                              I think so
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                                                              • Matyko
                                                                PsyHead
                                                                • Aug 2005
                                                                • 8681

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by NiftyStats Jenna
                                                                I vote for Chameleon, it's easy software with fresh database and it's our sponsor

                                                                Over 1700 TGP & MGP sites ready to submit!
                                                                Fast Auto and Manual submit with auto fill forms!
                                                                Recognition and automatic filling of several code types
                                                                FTP upload tool!
                                                                Customizable database (Add/Delete/Edit TGPs/MGPs)
                                                                Powerful automatic image cropping tool!
                                                                CS now offers a selection of 239 categories!
                                                                Ranking of sites!
                                                                Automatic submit of all sample thumbnail sizes!
                                                                History of submitted galleries
                                                                Daily TGP and MGP database update!
                                                                +1 for Chameleon, also a side-vote for NiftyStats! ;)

                                                                Originally posted by billywatson
                                                                Is submitting even worth it anymore?
                                                                Yes. But only for a few.

                                                                Some nice tips for newbies in this thread.
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