Is it fair for a sponsor to move in on your turf?

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  • s2kcord
    Confirmed User
    • Mar 2006
    • 581

    #1

    Is it fair for a sponsor to move in on your turf?

    Let's say you have some adwords and they convert like crazy for the price and a sponsor can see how much money your makeing and where the traffic is coming from and then they start buying from the same source you were useing to promote their program is this fair game?
  • Hooligan
    So Fucking Banned
    • May 2001
    • 1472

    #2
    it is fair game.

    but the sponsor are assholes and i'd out them on boards.

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    • gooddomains
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Jul 2003
      • 10127

      #3
      biz as usual

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      • $5 submissions
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        • Nov 2003
        • 32189

        #4
        Bump for an interesting issue

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        • martinsc
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          • Jun 2005
          • 27043

          #5
          bump for names.
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          • Barefootsies
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            • Feb 2005
            • 42635

            #6
            bump for scandal

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            • mikeyddddd
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              • Mar 2003
              • 16557

              #7
              bump for a bump to bump the sponsor

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              • Manowar
                jellyfish  
                • Dec 2003
                • 71528

                #8
                Good point there

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                • Kimo
                  ...
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 11542

                  #9
                  i demand names!
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                  • the Shemp
                    congrats to the winners
                    • Nov 2001
                    • 10891

                    #10
                    Originally posted by s2kcord
                    Let's say you have some adwords and they convert like crazy for the price and a sponsor can see how much money your makeing and where the traffic is coming from and then they start buying from the same source you were useing to promote their program is this fair game?
                    that would be "business"
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                    • dissipate
                      The Dirty Frenchman
                      • Nov 2005
                      • 8904

                      #11
                      The last time I checked, we live in a capitalistic society - that stuff happens every day.

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                      • Pimpin_J
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jul 2006
                        • 3637

                        #12
                        this thread is useless without names

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                        • Why
                          MFBA
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 7230

                          #13
                          all is fair in love and war. business is business.

                          we would never do that. mainly because we feel the people doing it are professionals and they would do a better job then we would. as they have the time and knowledge to do it the right way.

                          running paysites is what we do. buying PPC is what they do. it works out well this way.

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                          • DaddyHalbucks
                            A freakin' legend!
                            • Feb 2004
                            • 18975

                            #14
                            It's probably fair, but perhaps ungrateful.

                            1. You can take your business elsewhere.

                            2. Maybe in the future you can get an agreement that sponsors won't compete in such ways with you.
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                            • Tdog
                              Confirmed User
                              • May 2006
                              • 2707

                              #15
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                              • youngblood
                                Confirmed User
                                • Apr 2006
                                • 681

                                #16
                                nothing new, this happens all the time in both mainstream and adult. You just got to suck it up and deal with it. I find it happening more often with sponsor programs which are small and med in size, but not so much with larger well established programs..

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                                • DEA - banned for life
                                  V.I.P.
                                  • Nov 2004
                                  • 7886

                                  #17
                                  nobody moves in on my turf suckah !

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                                  • woj
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                                    • Jul 2002
                                    • 47880

                                    #18
                                    I have no idea why you are surprised, there is no such a thing as "your turf"..
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                                    • TheJimmy
                                      ICQ- five seven 0 2 5 5 0
                                      • Jan 2001
                                      • 10747

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by the Shemp
                                      that would be "business"
                                      You took the thought right out of my head!



                                      And a business response to a situation like this, if you were thinking from a business perspective...hypothetically would be:


                                      1) Build a site, become your own sponsor.

                                      2) Cut your prices and do something unique or interesting with your site.

                                      3) Launch an affiliate program and match or beat the competition payouts. (contests, swag, the whole 9)

                                      4) Make sure to find an effective way to let other people that advertise those type of sites know about your new program.



                                      /TheJimmy shakes his head and remembers he's on GFY and wonders why he just typed all of that out!? Thinks to himself, maybe I just drank too much coffee and felt like wasting some breath (figuratively speaking of course).

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                                      • jigg
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Feb 2002
                                        • 2527

                                        #20
                                        hide your adwords, pass the adwords traffic thru your own domain first
                                        ......
                                        eight,eight,two,eight,eight,four,two
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                                        • Snake Doctor
                                          I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                          • Mar 2001
                                          • 13449

                                          #21
                                          This same thing really pisses me off. I know there's nothing you can do about it but you have sponsors contact you and hype up their new sites and tell you to send traffic to them....and then they go buy traffic from the same places you do and compete with you for the same signups.

                                          It's basically a slap in the face.

                                          It's kind of like Exxon or Shell opening up a gas station across the street from one of their most successful resellers.
                                          It's technically "fair" and "legal" but it still sucks. The original station owner took all of the risk and once the oil company saw that the market was successful they stepped in and undercut their reseller.
                                          sig too big

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                                          • BlackCrayon
                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                            • Jun 2003
                                            • 19634

                                            #22
                                            sounds like click fraud time, lol.
                                            you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                                            • woj
                                              <&(©¿©)&>
                                              • Jul 2002
                                              • 47880

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                                              sounds like click fraud time, lol.
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                                              • polish_aristocrat
                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                • Jul 2002
                                                • 40377

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by woj
                                                I have no idea why you are surprised, there is no such a thing as "your turf"..
                                                sometimes, sometimes there is.....
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                                                • Sosa
                                                  In Tushy Land
                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                  • 40149

                                                  #25
                                                  It would suck, but I can see alot of of programs doing it.

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                                                  • SomeCreep
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                                                    • Mar 2003
                                                    • 26118

                                                    #26
                                                    Slightly unethical, but yes, fair.

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                                                    • Antonio
                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                      • Oct 2001
                                                      • 14136

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                                                      sounds like click fraud time, lol.


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                                                      • TheJimmy
                                                        ICQ- five seven 0 2 5 5 0
                                                        • Jan 2001
                                                        • 10747

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                                                        sounds like click fraud time, lol.
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                                                        • teksonline
                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                          • Jan 2005
                                                          • 2904

                                                          #29
                                                          it's worse when they convert, then they just shave your ass

                                                          happened all the time back in the casino biz... i wrote software installers that made millions of signups. all copied by the program runners, who never paid me a dime... and of course they are out of business, and I am still here, just gotta be smarter then the average bear and know when to say fuck you and move on.... average lifetime of affiliate to sponsor relationship these days is about 2 months...... which is why all the sponsors now have about 60 programs each..

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                                                          • ~Ray
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                                                            • Jun 2003
                                                            • 18361

                                                            #30
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                                                              sounds like click fraud time, lol.
                                                              The funny is strong in this post

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                                                              • ez12
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Apr 2001
                                                                • 2438

                                                                #32
                                                                sounds like the bizz

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                                                                • King of Queens
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Aug 2006
                                                                  • 1288

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by jigg
                                                                  hide your adwords, pass the adwords traffic thru your own domain first
                                                                  Google is cracking down on this in a way. If your site sole purpose is to direct traffic to another site they'll eventually shut your campaigns down.

                                                                  How ever if you placed their domain name their first then you should be fine unless they use another site/domain name.

                                                                  1 of my best adwords campaigns got closed for being a "bridge" and then I couldn't use the original domain name because another affiliate was there first with it.

                                                                  Dude go study some high price per click/high volume keyword/s ad copy and try to incorporate their style/ main points in your ad copy to boost your ctr.

                                                                  Keep working on your ctr and copy and you should do fine.
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