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are you suggesting that his family are homeless, disease infested and randomly attacking people and biting them?
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Originally posted by Pleasurepaysdogs are cuter than crabs. i always try to remember the golden rule.... ugly animals with no personality have no rights.
crabs are probably a lot tastier too . . .Comment
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His 'reason' for beating a dog to death being ok "because it's only a dog" is bullshit...Originally posted by baddog
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Originally posted by Scott McD
Maybe you should learn to read. THey were not killing them just because they were dogs.Comment
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the moment we teach crabs to sit up and shake hands... or roll over... or cuddle next to us while we watch soap operas, all crab seasons will be closed due to their obvious cruel and inhumane nature. we'll be constantly driving past people picketing to stop crab cruelty... just like i have to drive by the University of Washington medical center, enduring the 18-20yr old "enlightened" kids protesting animal testing in cancer experiments.Originally posted by baddogComment
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. . . . and I hate to break it to you, but clubbing them to death makes more sense than popping caps around townComment
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Forget about why these dogs are being killed for a moment.Originally posted by baddog
Whenever a dog/cat etc abuse vid is posted on GFY, we have the same retards who say "it's only a cat, who cares??"
It's the same shit from the same people everytime. Is it tough to act like you don't give a fuck about animals, or am i missing something here ??
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poor dogs.....may they rest in peace
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no one thinks its a great thing. some think its both reasonable and forgiveable. besides, at least in china they will get made into jackets and tasty treats. here they would just be buried in landfills.Originally posted by Scott McD
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Originally posted by Pleasurepays
One of my favorite pastimes used to be to go to the LA Zoo and argue with the activists outside that protested against the use of animals for testing.
For some reason they never seemed to think that we should be using our prisons for the testing instead.
I guess we should just turn the products loose on the consumer and see what happens.Comment
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i have a few friends that work at Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center as well as University of Washington Medical Center doing similar work. did you know they use Beagles for experimenting on? all their older medical data comes from experimentes on dogs... and to build on that knowledge, they have to keep using dogs.Originally posted by baddog
Of course, i agree with animal rights activists... i think its perfectly fine that we ban this testing and experimenting on animals FIRST... THEN let millions die while the entire world wide medical community starts over. We all know its far less tragic watching little 6yr old Cindy die of a brain tumor than it is to imagine an animal being used in medical experiments to advance science. I say let the kids die... save the dogs.Comment
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Originally posted by Scott McD
Bingo, you hit the nail on the head, you are missing something.
Just because another culture does things differently than we do does not mean it is animal cruelty.
Just because you limit your meat intake to animals with cloven hooves does not mean that is the way it should be. I am pretty sure there are a few million Indians that would disagree with your consumption of a Big Mac.
I haven't seen too many "animal cruelty" vids posted, do you have some specific instances?Comment
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Originally posted by dRI-X
RIP for a dog? Do you believe in a doggie heaven?Comment
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It doesn't matter who looks at it, it IS animal cruelty.Originally posted by baddog
I don't eat meat.
There have been a few (which i have no doubts you know of), but i'm not going to bring them back up again. After the last one i watched, i promised myself never to view material like it again...
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what specifically is cruel?Originally posted by Scott McD
what is your idea of a better solution?Comment
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I understand that these dogs carry diseases and it's just a pre-emptive measure much like all the birds that were slaughtered in an attempt to halt the bird-flu from spreading. China shouldn't stop there however. They should know that by now cats are plotting to take over the world... China needs to modify their dog-smashing techniques just slightly and start destroying cats by the tens of thousands. Only then will we stand a chance from the upcoming feline armies. I never thought I'd be saying this, but good luck China: You are humanity's best chance for survival.Last edited by notabook; 08-02-2006, 04:00 PM.
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There is nothingOriginally posted by Scott McD
I don't eat meat. about being a vegetarian tree hugger, but it does explain the attitude.
So, tell me . . . do you raise your own vegetables too? If not, how do you justify the slaughter of all the rodents (rabbits, skunks, field mice, etc) that are killed with automated harvesting methods?Comment
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Dude the majority of those dogs were not stray. And the majority of them were not disease infested either.Originally posted by Pleasurepays
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My attitude ??Originally posted by baddog
To actually showing some remorse ?
Consider your own attidude before consulting others on their own...
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right. because they are just mean and cruel and do it for fun... and there is no left wing, unltra liberal, out of touch with reality agenda at work here.Originally posted by Solidarity
i get it.
shit.
fucking chinese!
damn them.Comment
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Originally posted by Scott McD
Yes, the attitude that the killing of animals for any reason is crueltyComment
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It's just a pity i never said that though. Ah well...Originally posted by baddog
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China uses cats for fur production. The latest attrocious technique is they put a whole bunch of cats in big burlap sacks and then drop them while still alive into huge vats of boiling water.Originally posted by notabook
Its just really fucked up over there for animals.
Sadly, the animals are better off dead. These fucks transport them packed solid in wire mesh cages where the dogs and cats are all squished together and can't even move. They get no food. No water. Bake out in the hot sun while the truck is delivering them to the markets. And then they just throw the cages off that are piled high on the trucks onto the concrete road. The dogs and cats get their paws sticking out all crushed in the process. Then they pull them out one by one with big metal tongs squeezing their necks in the process.
So its absolute torture.
They don't treat their people that go against the system much better either. Chinese prison camps are amongst the most abusive and worst in the world.
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KickASS! The Chinese are going to save humanity yet... it's fucking pitiful that we Americans are yet again going to have to depend on a third world nation to save our butts because of stupid fucking groups like PETA and ALF. God it makes me sick that we can't even take out a threat in America that's realer than any 'threat level' that terrorists pose to us. Cats *MUST* be eliminated in order for humanity?s future to be secured. Thank the Lord that the Chinese seem to have a grip on things, we sure the fuck don't.Originally posted by KRLComment
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Someone should go over there and breed Pitbulls and American Bulldogs.
When you hit them with a skinny stick like that they think all your doing is playing.
When they find out your not. Some body parts will fly.....
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I heard about this as well.Originally posted by KRL
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Originally posted by CTdude... we are sharing a hotel room... please let me leave the room before you decide to have your way with Mr Limpy
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I SAY WAR!!!Originally posted by KRL
WAR GOD DAMN IT!
Joshll Vs. China.WiredBall
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there is something wrong with fucking world...
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Why, because the Chinese beat up some dogs?Originally posted by ilbbthere is something wrong with fucking world...
I eat meat, red fucking meat, chicken, fish and I love animals and own dogs/cats but PETA and assholes that follow them can kiss my ass.Comment
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I am way more concerned with how the Chinese government treats the humans. As long as that doesn't work out right, I'd say: Fuck the dogs.
I mean, why should I care about saving animals, when so many humans die all day? Wouldn't saving them be the reasonable first step? Working for respect for human rights?
I also won't donate a single cent for saving some green-penised owl from extinction, when that money can be used to protect human rights.
just my
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amen.Originally posted by godisdeadI am way more concerned with how the Chinese government treats the humans. As long as that doesn't work out right, I'd say: Fuck the dogs.
I mean, why should I care about saving animals, when so many humans die all day? Wouldn't saving them be the reasonable first step? Working for respect for human rights?
I also won't donate a single cent for saving some green-penised owl from extinction, when that money can be used to protect human rights.
just my
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No doubt we will have countless GFY'ers who say they deserve it blah blah blah...Originally posted by KRL
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YourOriginally posted by godisdeadI am way more concerned with how the Chinese government treats the humans. As long as that doesn't work out right, I'd say: Fuck the dogs.
I mean, why should I care about saving animals, when so many humans die all day? Wouldn't saving them be the reasonable first step? Working for respect for human rights?
I also won't donate a single cent for saving some green-penised owl from extinction, when that money can be used to protect human rights.
just my isn't worth a fuck...
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Without a reason attached this reply isn't really helpful. So: What do you think is wrong with my view?Originally posted by Scott McDYour isn't worth a fuck...Comment
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You are basically saying that because not all humans are treated correctly, we should just say "fuck it" to animals untill they are.Originally posted by godisdead
Can't we worry about our own problems, while not being complete assholes to animals in the process ??
What gives humans any more right than animals ?
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i think what he is saying is that he has the normal priorities of a healthy, well balanced human being. he is saying that he puts human life above animal life and has no problem prioritizing his concerns. not a terribly difficult concept to grasp. while you are upset about dogs being killed for a good reason.. you are not upset for prisoners being shot in the face so their organs can be sold on the black market. some of us are in control of our emotions.Originally posted by Scott McD
what gives humans more rights than animals?? uhm... do you understand what "rights" are? rights are an idea created by man. WE give humans more rights than animals. we create rights. we decide what rights are rights. we decide who gets what rights.
the funny thing about your ranting is that NO ONE here has said "hey, its really great that chinese are clubbing dogs to death in the street" - no one thinks it is. you are just emotional and irrational and reacting in the exact way the pics were intended to make people like you react.
just because you love cute animals more than others doesn't make you "more right" about anything.
the dumbest thing about animal rights and the painfully irrational, so-called "reasoning" of animal rights supporters is you seem to only extend these "rights" to cute animals. i can use your flawed reasoning and ask equally stupid rhetorical questions.... what gives dogs more rights than spiders? why is it ok to swat a fly? blah blah blah...Last edited by Pleasurepays; 08-03-2006, 03:16 AM.Comment
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I'm not for senseless cruelty towards animals. But I think that activism should be focused on humans first.Originally posted by Scott McD
What gives animals rights to start with?Originally posted by Scott McD
Animals have no clue what a right is. And they don't respect any rights. They can't. Rights are limited to reasonable beings who can understand what a right is in the first place so they can respect that right.
If lions kill zebras there's no zebra going to court because of that.
If a dog shits on your lawn, you don't sue it for ruining your property.
Dogs also pay no taxes to support the legal system needed to enforce these rights. Neither do zebras or lions.
Animals have no idea what rights are. Rights don't apply to the animal kingdom. They are a distinctly human thing.
I know that this is a highly emotional issue.
I'm not saying that we should just treat animals like shit for no reason. But as far as I can see animals don't have rights the way humans do. That's why I think that fighting for human rights has priority over fighting for animal well-being.
There are nicer ways to deal with the dogs. But denying rights to beings where they apply is a crime. Therefore it is more important to deal with that.
Especially because the resources are limited.Comment
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Neither does a retarded person, but i'm sure they'll still have rights.Originally posted by godisdead
Anyway, you're right it is an emotional issue, and one which i can't be bothered going on about anymore. I've no doubt some on here post shit they don't actually feel anyway, it's more of a "let's see who'll take the bait" sort of thing...
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That's something called "the problem of the broken unit" in philosophy.Originally posted by Scott McD
The basic idea is that a table with a broken leg is still a table and a bird that has lost its ability to sing is still a bird. But I might have to dig that one up somewhere.
The rights of retarded people and children are, however, restricted because they lack the understanding of these issues.
But you're right. We'd better stop this before it gets emotional.
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i hope they fucked the dogs first, and filmed it... imagine that, riding a big black alsation from behind, then clubbing in it's head with a claw hammer just as you're about to blow you load up its furry ass... it'd be awesome.
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