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  • RedShoe
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    • Feb 2001
    • 14831
    #1

    what video formats are standard now?

    We've been running WMV's and MPG's for a long time in our members areas and have always just stuck to that formula.

    But, are those the standard anymore? With h.264 looking so damn good are people wanting mp4's now?

    Is quicktime a better player than wmv? Is it standard now? Is Flash the best way to go?

    What are you doing?

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    • rock-reed
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      • May 2005
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      #2
      You definitely need to give the member higher quality, better video.

      I really like wmvHD and also h.264.

      I think stick with quick time and wmv.

      Don't worry about flash just yet.


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        • munki
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          • Dec 2004
          • 13393
          #3
          WMV, Mpeg2, and Quicktime we're our old gotos...

          We started playing with psp and ipod formats about a year and half ago, and I started moving all of our current clips to dvd+ quality h264 renders around the same time.

          I've noticed through our stats on member's areas that majority of clicks are going to wmv and h264 clips now.

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            • munki
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              • Dec 2004
              • 13393
              #4
              Originally posted by rock-reed
              You definitely need to give the member higher quality, better video.

              I really like wmvHD and also h.264.

              I think stick with quick time and wmv.

              Don't worry about flash just yet.


              Your thoughts... ?
              You don't have to "worry" about flash... encode to h264, and your clip's flash ready

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                • RedShoe
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                  • Feb 2001
                  • 14831
                  #5
                  What about low WMV's? We run out a high and a low and it doesn't seem like anyone is hitting the lows anymore.

                  I'm digging h.264. Seems like my files sizes are pretty big though. I'm running out minute tests at 30 megs. I think I'm going to start backing it off just until I notice a quality change. Right now the quality is the same as the source.

                  WMV's are pretty standard for us. We run out a high wmv and a low, but I think I'm going to stop the lows.

                  Thanks for the flash info. It seems that flash takes a lot longer to run out, and I'm still not happy with the quality. Fuck that for now I guess.

                  any advice(s) on the h.264 settings?

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                    • munki
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                      • Dec 2004
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                      #6
                      Originally posted by RedShoe
                      What about low WMV's? We run out a high and a low and it doesn't seem like anyone is hitting the lows anymore.

                      I'm digging h.264. Seems like my files sizes are pretty big though. I'm running out minute tests at 30 megs. I think I'm going to start backing it off just until I notice a quality change. Right now the quality is the same as the source.

                      WMV's are pretty standard for us. We run out a high wmv and a low, but I think I'm going to stop the lows.

                      Thanks for the flash info. It seems that flash takes a lot longer to run out, and I'm still not happy with the quality. Fuck that for now I guess.

                      any advice(s) on the h.264 settings?
                      I was running Low, High, and Ultra High on WMV and all formats, and have stopped lows altogether except for psp and ipod/iphone formats. Just no clicks hitting them, and not worth the extra render times with no attention.

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                        • roxyxxx
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                          • Sep 2008
                          • 104
                          #7
                          flv is popular

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                            • RedShoe
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                              • Feb 2001
                              • 14831
                              #8
                              Originally posted by roxyxxx
                              flv is popular
                              hhmmm but for paysites though? I know it's standard for tube sites. Also, I dunno, I can't seem to get FLV to encode at the same quality as the source like I can with h264.

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                                • munki
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                                  • Dec 2004
                                  • 13393
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by RedShoe
                                  hhmmm but for paysites though? I know it's standard for tube sites. Also, I dunno, I can't seem to get FLV to encode at the same quality as the source like I can with h264.
                                  icq bitches

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                                    • Porko
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                                      • Sep 2002
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                                      #10
                                      WMV's works fine..

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                                        • kowalsky
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                                          • Oct 2003
                                          • 2494
                                          #11
                                          I offer all these formats: WMV, MGP, MP4 and FLV
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                                            • RedShoe
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                                              • Feb 2001
                                              • 14831
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by kowalsky
                                              I offer all these formats: WMV, MGP, MP4 and FLV
                                              Do you notice which ones are clicked more?

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                                                • Brad Gosse
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                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                  • 2616
                                                  #13
                                                  H.264 delivered over flash streaming is the only solution you need in my book.

                                                  Many clients still get WMV, mpg, mp4 for psp and ipod etc but the h.264 is still the best looking video for the size and plays without the need for quicktime.
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                                                    • Ravensp
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                                                      • Aug 2005
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                                                      #14
                                                      We offer WMVHD and DIVX HD downloads. We also H.264 flash streaming on hotlegsandfeet.com

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                                                        • JamesK
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                                                          • Jun 2002
                                                          • 16731
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by Brad Gosse
                                                          H.264 delivered over flash streaming is the only solution you need in my book.

                                                          Many clients still get WMV, mpg, mp4 for psp and ipod etc but the h.264 is still the best looking video for the size and plays without the need for quicktime.
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                                                            • MandyBlake
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                                                              • Nov 2002
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                                                              #16
                                                              redshoe....go with real media i heard they rock!
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                                                                • stickyfingerz
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                                                                  • Oct 2005
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                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by RedShoe
                                                                  What about low WMV's? We run out a high and a low and it doesn't seem like anyone is hitting the lows anymore.

                                                                  I'm digging h.264. Seems like my files sizes are pretty big though. I'm running out minute tests at 30 megs. I think I'm going to start backing it off just until I notice a quality change. Right now the quality is the same as the source.

                                                                  WMV's are pretty standard for us. We run out a high wmv and a low, but I think I'm going to stop the lows.

                                                                  Thanks for the flash info. It seems that flash takes a lot longer to run out, and I'm still not happy with the quality. Fuck that for now I guess.

                                                                  any advice(s) on the h.264 settings?
                                                                  h.264 takes getting used to when encoding 1500 bit rate is more than enough for upto 720p in hd. Took me a while to get used to using a low bit rate for it. Your file sizes should be smaller than .wmvs

                                                                  Btw we only do streaming 480p and streaming 720p on our solo model sites. Standard flash, and .wmv downloads on our non exclusive bulk stuff.

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                                                                    • PornAddict
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                                                                      • Feb 2002
                                                                      • 1401
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by Porko
                                                                      WMV's works fine..
                                                                      Do you encode them yourself or just use the versions that you steal from others? Stop stealing content and using it for your girlfriend site.

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                                                                        • tranza
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                                                                          • Jun 2003
                                                                          • 57559
                                                                          #19
                                                                          flv, wmv.
                                                                          I'm just a newbie.

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                                                                            • james_clickmemedia
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                                                                              • Apr 2003
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                                                                              #20
                                                                              hi & low wmv and flv.
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                                                                                    • mikesouth
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                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      H.264 is the ticket for now, but older computers with low end graphics cards can have problems with it particularly in HD resolutions
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                                                                                        • MaDalton
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                                                                                          • Feb 2004
                                                                                          • 39861
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                                                                                          h.264 takes getting used to when encoding 1500 bit rate is more than enough for upto 720p in hd. Took me a while to get used to using a low bit rate for it. Your file sizes should be smaller than .wmvs

                                                                                          Btw we only do streaming 480p and streaming 720p on our solo model sites. Standard flash, and .wmv downloads on our non exclusive bulk stuff.
                                                                                          when your bitrate is 1500 kbit/s the filesize will always be same, no matter what format (give or take a few bytes). just the quality you get with those 1500 kbit/s will vary depending on codec, 1 or 2 pass, cbr or vbr etc.

                                                                                          i like .h264 and will probably offer that soon too. the quality at the same specs compared to wmv is significantly better
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                                                                                            • stickyfingerz
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                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by MaDalton
                                                                                              when your bitrate is 1500 kbit/s the filesize will always be same, no matter what format (give or take a few bytes). just the quality you get with those 1500 kbit/s will vary depending on codec, 1 or 2 pass, cbr or vbr etc.

                                                                                              i like .h264 and will probably offer that soon too. the quality at the same specs compared to wmv is significantly better
                                                                                              Right, but to get the same quality in .wmv you need much much higher bitrates as compared to h.264 via .mp4's. So when used to having to have 5 to 8000 bitrates in .wmv to see a solid quality hd video, in h.264 1500 is equiv to 8k or so. Sorry if the way I said that was confusing.
                                                                                              Last edited by stickyfingerz; 12-15-2008, 09:41 AM.

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                                                                                                • MaDalton
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                                                                                                  • Feb 2004
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                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                                                                                                  Right, but to get the same quality in .wmv you need much much higher bitrates as compared to h.264 via .mp4's. So when used to having to have 5 to 8000 bitrates in .wmv to see a solid quality hd video, in h.264 1500 is equiv to 8k or so. Sorry if the way I said that was confusing.
                                                                                                  ok, right

                                                                                                  not sure if 1500 in mp4 is exactly the equivalent of 8000 in wmv, but in general you are right: in mp4 files can be smaller for the same quality as in wmv
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                                                                                                    • tony299
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                                                                                                      • Aug 2002
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                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      I think its better to still have the lo wmv's for the customer that isnt on state of the art and it doesnt take much effort to add them to your rendering.

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                                                                                                        • gooddomains
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                                                                                                          • Jul 2003
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                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          good thread

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                                                                                                            • RedShoe
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                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Anyone still getting hits on small clips? When I was at tripleXCash we were breaking them up into 6 even length clips (regardless of total running time)

                                                                                                              Now that I run my own we don't do clips, but now that we're sort of revamping and adding more, kinda curious as to what the standards are now.

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                                                                                                                • grumpy
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                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  depends on how big the gifs are becoming, otherwise gif is the way to go and easy to protect
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                                                                                                                    • MaDalton
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                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by RedShoe
                                                                                                                      Anyone still getting hits on small clips? When I was at tripleXCash we were breaking them up into 6 even length clips (regardless of total running time)

                                                                                                                      Now that I run my own we don't do clips, but now that we're sort of revamping and adding more, kinda curious as to what the standards are now.
                                                                                                                      i say: offer real streaming, that way people can skip around as much as they want. plus it makes it harder (not impossible though) to save the clip and re-upload it somewhere else
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