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  • woj
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    • Jul 2002
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    #51
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    • BV
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      • Sep 2001
      • 10914

      #52
      Originally posted by c-lo
      Will someone please answer this?!? It's been asked twice now, but as this thread proves, GFY's bickering & keyboard warrior drama will always take precedence over the constantly emerging threats & the clarity thereof...

      Sometimes I wonder if it's even worth it. This industry is constantly being attacked, more rapidly now than ever. And yet we still can't come together for shit. I mean, if I was all 'anti-porn' & knew how unprofessional & unorganized this biz was, I'd take a shot at you, too.

      So come together, people. Not just for this, but for every threat we are guaranteed to face for the many years to come.


      /sad part
      c-lo
      EFFECTIVE DATES

      I've read sec 502 and 503 several times and 502 doesent say when its effective starting date is. UNLESS it's assumed 90 days after being published in Federal Register. I don't know.

      Sec 502 does not clearly specify today or 90 days after entering into the Federal Register.
      (b) CONSTRUCTION.--The provisions of section 2257 shall not
      apply to any depiction of actual sexually explicit conduct as
      described in clause (v) of section 2256(2)(A) of title 18, United
      States Code, produced in whole or in part, prior to the effective
      date of this section
      unless that depiction also includes actual sexu-
      ally explicit conduct as described in clauses (i) through (iv) of
      section 2256(2)(A) of title 18, United States Code.

      Sec 503 CLEARLY states 90 days after publishing in Federal Register:

      The provisions of this section shall not become effective until
      90 days after the final regulations implementing this section are published in the Federal Register.
      Last edited by BV; 07-27-2006, 09:17 PM.

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      • tony299
        lurker
        • Aug 2002
        • 57021

        #53
        Originally posted by stickyfingerzdotnet
        You again have no idea what I do. lol Here is a hint. I have 32 dvds all with 2257 info sitting on my desk atm.
        that could mean you like to jerk off alot , it means nothing. lol Your not in our business,thats not a bad thing. You just dont understand.

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        • stickyfingerz
          Doin fine
          • Oct 2005
          • 24984

          #54
          Originally posted by tony404
          that could mean you like to jerk off alot , it means nothing. lol Your not in our business,thats not a bad thing. You just dont understand.
          Yup not in your business. What a fucktard you are. If you want to discuss what I do, Ill be in Florida next week. Be glad to discuss what I do there.

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          • tony299
            lurker
            • Aug 2002
            • 57021

            #55
            Originally posted by stickyfingerzdotnet
            Yup not in your business. What a fucktard you are. If you want to discuss what I do, Ill be in Florida next week. Be glad to discuss what I do there.
            again just because you go to conventions means nothing. Did I call you names keyboard warrior?

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            • stickyfingerz
              Doin fine
              • Oct 2005
              • 24984

              #56
              Originally posted by tony404
              again just because you go to conventions means nothing. Did I call you names keyboard warrior?
              I need to prove nothing to you. The people who know me know what I do. Im sure alot of people spend thousands of dollars to goto conventions when they are not in the business lol. Maybe 1 a year. Florida will be my 4th since March. What do you do? Is lovedollars your program?

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              • will76
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                • May 2003
                • 18037

                #57
                Thats what I am waiting to hear. How Google is exempt from this. What Google does with their 'images" is no different then TGP pages that use thumbnails. no different, except TGP's dont have stolen content on it and no CP either which google does.

                Some how, I feel the multi billion dollar company will get a pass on this one.

                No one has addressed the issue of LIVE Porn. Say I buy video feeds for my site, how do they plan on keeping track of stuff that is live and not archived ?

                Wonder if AFF will be taking down all their nudy pics from user profiles?
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                • riddler
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                  • Oct 2004
                  • 3726

                  #58
                  Where the fuck is the FSC with fighting this?

                  What happen to all the money that was donated to fight this battle?

                  We have not heard jack shit basically once everyones wallets came open and donated..

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                  • tony299
                    lurker
                    • Aug 2002
                    • 57021

                    #59
                    Originally posted by stickyfingerzdotnet
                    I need to prove nothing to you. The people who know me know what I do. Im sure alot of people spend thousands of dollars to goto conventions when they are not in the business lol. Maybe 1 a year. Florida will be my 4th since March. What do you do? Is lovedollars your program?
                    No love dollars isnt mine.My wife is Mandy Blake, we produce and run two paysites. We have no program and in light of the new law god was smiling on me on that choice.Been doing it for 6 yrs and I have only been to one show the whole time. The money going to a show is better spent creating new content. A reporter from Klixx interviewed us for their mag dont know when its coming out, it should tell our story in detail. I may disagree with you but I have never given you the disrespect of calling you names.

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                    • StickyGreen
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                      • Oct 2003
                      • 13076

                      #60
                      You guys need to shut the fuck up. Go argue on ICQ or something and leave this thread alone for 2257 discussion...
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                      • c-lo
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                        • May 2005
                        • 925

                        #61
                        Originally posted by BV
                        EFFECTIVE DATES

                        I've read sec 502 and 503 several times and 502 doesent say when its effective starting date is. UNLESS it's assumed 90 days after being published in Federal Register. I don't know.

                        Sec 502 does not clearly specify today or 90 days after entering into the Federal Register.
                        (b) CONSTRUCTION.--The provisions of section 2257 shall not
                        apply to any depiction of actual sexually explicit conduct as
                        described in clause (v) of section 2256(2)(A) of title 18, United
                        States Code, produced in whole or in part, prior to the effective
                        date of this section
                        unless that depiction also includes actual sexu-
                        ally explicit conduct as described in clauses (i) through (iv) of
                        section 2256(2)(A) of title 18, United States Code.

                        Sec 503 CLEARLY states 90 days after publishing in Federal Register:

                        The provisions of this section shall not become effective until
                        90 days after the final regulations implementing this section are published in the Federal Register.

                        Thanks for the info, BV. Any info is appreciated right now. The legal aspects of adult scare the hell out of me, and I'm sure I'm not alone.

                        On a sidenote, for the sake of this thread, will you guys (stickyfingerz & tony) just agree to meet up for a drink in FL or something? (just dont talk about legalities )

                        It'd be nice to keep this one on topic, ya know?

                        And will76, I've noticed several people asking what Google is going to have to do in this situation, as well as AFF & all the cam/live sex sites. Maybe you should make a thread for it. You'd probably get suggestions that are more on topic that way.
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                        • StickyGreen
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                          • Oct 2003
                          • 13076

                          #62
                          Originally posted by BV
                          EFFECTIVE DATES

                          I've read sec 502 and 503 several times and 502 doesent say when its effective starting date is. UNLESS it's assumed 90 days after being published in Federal Register. I don't know.

                          Sec 502 does not clearly specify today or 90 days after entering into the Federal Register.
                          (b) CONSTRUCTION.--The provisions of section 2257 shall not
                          apply to any depiction of actual sexually explicit conduct as
                          described in clause (v) of section 2256(2)(A) of title 18, United
                          States Code, produced in whole or in part, prior to the effective
                          date of this section
                          unless that depiction also includes actual sexu-
                          ally explicit conduct as described in clauses (i) through (iv) of
                          section 2256(2)(A) of title 18, United States Code.

                          Sec 503 CLEARLY states 90 days after publishing in Federal Register:

                          The provisions of this section shall not become effective until
                          90 days after the final regulations implementing this section are published in the Federal Register.
                          Can someone break this down a little more? It's kind of confusing...
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                          • spider_x
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                            • Sep 2005
                            • 481

                            #63
                            The best defense against this is to challenge these guys to hold their newly drafted bills under public scrutiny. I don't know if its possible to reverse this but in the future they obviously need to be held more accountable. Such a major thing like this happened in a short span of six days. That's hardly enough time for everyone to collaborate. Fortunately there are industry execs in Washington's think tank helping the situation but there's gotta be more so do your part, join the FSC, write to congress etc. It is possible to reach a solid resolution to an ongoing problem.
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                            • stickyfingerz
                              Doin fine
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 24984

                              #64
                              Originally posted by tony404
                              No love dollars isnt mine.My wife is Mandy Blake, we produce and run two paysites. We have no program and in light of the new law god was smiling on me on that choice.Been doing it for 6 yrs and I have only been to one show the whole time. The money going to a show is better spent creating new content. A reporter from Klixx interviewed us for their mag dont know when its coming out, it should tell our story in detail. I may disagree with you but I have never given you the disrespect of calling you names.
                              You're right, sorry I shouldnt group you in with all the others that are here simply here to argue politics. I appologize for calling you a name. Though you shouldnt underestimate me and what I do.

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                              • tony299
                                lurker
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 57021

                                #65
                                Originally posted by stickyfingerzdotnet
                                You're right, sorry I shouldnt group you in with all the others that are here simply here to argue politics. I appologize for calling you a name. Though you shouldnt underestimate me and what I do.
                                Your right and Im sorry also.

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                                • tony299
                                  lurker
                                  • Aug 2002
                                  • 57021

                                  #66
                                  As far as the law, instead of freaking out.Im sure at internext some lawyer is going to speak on this at length. The real problem with 2257 and all the changes in the words of my lawyer.Until it goes to court, its all opinions on how to handle it.

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                                  • riddler
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Oct 2004
                                    • 3726

                                    #67
                                    Originally posted by riddler
                                    Where the fuck is the FSC with fighting this?

                                    What happen to all the money that was donated to fight this battle?

                                    We have not heard jack shit basically once everyones wallets came open and donated..

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                                    • tony299
                                      lurker
                                      • Aug 2002
                                      • 57021

                                      #68
                                      What is the lobbying group the FSC hired doing up in WASH DC, is another question.

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                                      • riddler
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                                        • Oct 2004
                                        • 3726

                                        #69
                                        Originally posted by tony404
                                        What is the lobbying group the FSC hired doing up in WASH DC, is another question.
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                                        • fr0gman
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                                          #70
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                                          • JD
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                                            • Sep 2003
                                            • 22651

                                            #71
                                            back to the top

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                                            • JD
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                                              • Sep 2003
                                              • 22651

                                              #72
                                              it's nice to know that people care about the important things like hit it threads and drama more than something as unimportant as this

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                                              • CamsLord
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                                                #73
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                                                • JD
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                                                  • Sep 2003
                                                  • 22651

                                                  #74
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                                                  • twink-in-training
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                                                    #75
                                                    google isnt complying yet:

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                                                    • Jimmy The Juggernaut
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                                                      • Nov 2005
                                                      • 177

                                                      #76
                                                      does anyone else think that since Bush and his time in office and power is running out fast that he is just trying to fuck up as much stuff as possible ?
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                                                      • Webby
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                                                        • Oct 2002
                                                        • 14956

                                                        #77
                                                        Originally posted by Jimmy The Juggernaut
                                                        does anyone else think that since Bush and his time in office and power is running out fast that he is just trying to fuck up as much stuff as possible ?
                                                        Sure.. perhaps not so much fuckup (he does not even have to try to do that)... but who knows Jimmy, - I would not be the slightest surprised to see his mob in power yet again. There is nothing like prepping up for the next session

                                                        There sure is a fetish over children in this Admin and that is neither healthy or in any way in the interests of children - (OK .. I'll give em 2 marks for the little bit of good it may have had) - but at the core, it's sheer bollocks and little more overall than child abuse. And, of course, designed to fuck others up as well.

                                                        Forgetting all political crap, they sure have not served the US well - and fucked up big time outside the US. If that crap continues, there is no way other than a downwards spiral - it's not even sane.
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                                                          • 32189

                                                          #78
                                                          It's not settled yet.... it still has to be tested in and interpreted by the courts. Go get em, FSC!

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                                                          • Manowar
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                                                            • Dec 2003
                                                            • 71528

                                                            #79
                                                            Originally posted by spider_x
                                                            FBI raiding for 2257 on Diabolic Productions, Amending 2257, Prosecuting cumonherface.com, raiding max hardcore STILL HAS NOT put a dent on sex crimes. The wrong targets are STILL being fired upon. IT HAS TO STOP.
                                                            yep so true

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                                                            • HairToStay
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                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                              • 1521

                                                              #80
                                                              When 2257 had new regulations last year, they said it would effect content from that day on .... so I, too, am curious if this affects content as of today or are they grandfathering it.
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                                                              • Jack_Daniels
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                                                                • Jan 2006
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                                                                #81
                                                                Originally posted by $5 submissions
                                                                It's not settled yet.... it still has to be tested in and interpreted by the courts. Go get em, FSC!
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                                                                • Nikki_Licks
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                                                                  • May 2005
                                                                  • 6323

                                                                  #82
                                                                  What gets me is this stupid fucking bush is talking about exploitation of kids, how they are going to protect them, meanwhile Bush and his band of merry dirtbag politicians are using Adam Walshes death as the platform to sneak in a law they couldn't get passed prior, along with other laws that are totally obsurd. I call this a form of exploitation.
                                                                  This law is not going to protect children...it will only protect them after it is too late. Fucking parents need to keep an eye on their kids and maybe this crap wouldn't happen, and shame on Mr. Walsh for letting Bush and his band of merry dirtbags exploit his childs name to pass a bogus law and shame on Walsh for not watching his kid at K-Mart.
                                                                  Just my

                                                                  Maybe we should have laws that throw these fucking parents in jail for 10 years for not suprivising their fucking little rugrats. It's time for some of the responsibility to be put on the parents.

                                                                  If you were a parent wouldn't you put your smut magazines away so your kid wouldn't find them? Would you put your weapons in a safe place so your kid did not get to it? If your wife loves dildo's wouldn't you put it away so your kid couldn't see it?
                                                                  So why can't fucking parent's take responsibility and watch their fucking kid while they are on the computer? Everyone else is to blame execpt the fucking parent's and their special little offspring's.
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                                                                  • Nikki_Licks
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                                                                    • May 2005
                                                                    • 6323

                                                                    #83
                                                                    Originally posted by Jimmy The Juggernaut
                                                                    does anyone else think that since Bush and his time in office and power is running out fast that he is just trying to fuck up as much stuff as possible ?
                                                                    He can't fuck anything else up, he has ruined the country, drove the deficit through the roof. He needs to go back to being a wanna be cowboy. I can't wait to see this dirtbag out of office...
                                                                    Last edited by Nikki_Licks; 07-28-2006, 06:15 AM.
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                                                                    • Troels
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                                                                      • May 2002
                                                                      • 1035

                                                                      #84
                                                                      " Whoever knowingly uses a misleading domain name on the Internet with the intent to deceive a person into viewing material constituting obscenity shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both."

                                                                      2 years in prison... are they fucking insane. It's laughable, pathetic and totally crazy.

                                                                      Concentrate on something more important you fucking idiots.
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                                                                      • Tom_PM
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                                                                        • Feb 2005
                                                                        • 16443

                                                                        #85
                                                                        Originally posted by Troels
                                                                        " Whoever knowingly uses a misleading domain name on the Internet with the intent to deceive a person into viewing material constituting obscenity shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both."
                                                                        Thats the section that I've been looking at a bit more too. But the words "with the intent to deceive" is really key. I have a domain without "sex" or "porn" in it. It's all text, and has a clear warning page as it's root index. It's clearly not deceptive, so I'm not worried.

                                                                        How would someone PROVE "intent to deceive"? I'd think it would have to be very blatant. Like 1800flowerz.com or something, then wham a bunch of porn. Those sort of things SHOULD be stopped, so I'm not really sure that this is a bad thing in any way honestly..

                                                                        It seems the main core of 2257 is unchanged except for the part about what constitutes "sexually explicit".
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                                                                        • Troels
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                                                                          • May 2002
                                                                          • 1035

                                                                          #86
                                                                          The main core is that all these laws being implemented in effect are similar to tyrant rule where they can arrest anyone for anything. The same thing his Government are crusading worldwide againt. It's so fucking weak and hypocritical.

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                                                                          • Tom_PM
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                                                                            • Feb 2005
                                                                            • 16443

                                                                            #87
                                                                            Well yeah true. It doesnt make sense from the get-go to me either. I can understand internal record keeping, or even a requirement for the actual content shooters to maintain copies of the relevant records. But asking 100% of legit adult businesses to keep records when they didnt even produce the content is insane.
                                                                            It'd be like requiring all car dealers to maintain the same records as a car manufacturer because there is an illegal chop-shop ring operating. Retarded.
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                                                                            • MikeVega
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                                                                              • Jul 2004
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                                                                              #88
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                                                                              • DaddyHalbucks
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                                                                                • Feb 2004
                                                                                • 18975

                                                                                #89
                                                                                Originally posted by KRL
                                                                                § 2252B. Misleading domain names on the Internet
                                                                                ...
                                                                                (b) Whoever knowingly uses a misleading domain name on the Internet with the intent to deceive a minor into viewing material that is harmful to minors on the Internet shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 4 years, or both.

                                                                                (c) For the purposes of this section, a domain name that includes a word or words to indicate the sexual content of the site, such as ?sex? or ?porn?, is not misleading.
                                                                                So domain names such as these are OK?

                                                                                kids-enter-here-square-pants-porn.com
                                                                                mydisneytripsex.com
                                                                                fun-mp3-beanie-baby-porn.com
                                                                                mybabysittersexstories.com
                                                                                mommy-dickcheneytouchedmeinaprivatearea-sex.com
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                                                                                • will76
                                                                                  Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                                                                                  • May 2003
                                                                                  • 18037

                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  Originally posted by DaddyHalbucks
                                                                                  So domain names such as these are OK?

                                                                                  kids-enter-here-square-pants-porn.com
                                                                                  mydisneytripsex.com
                                                                                  fun-mp3-beanie-baby-porn.com
                                                                                  mybabysittersexstories.com
                                                                                  mommy-dickcheneytouchedmeinaprivatearea-sex.com
                                                                                  I wouldn't touch any of those domain even before this law went into effect, but you have to be down right nuts to register the two bellow. Those two are really really bad IMO and definetly meet the "deceptive url" standard.

                                                                                  kids-enter-here-square-pants-porn.com
                                                                                  fun-mp3-beanie-baby-porn.com


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                                                                                  • JD
                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                    • Sep 2003
                                                                                    • 22651

                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    Originally posted by will76
                                                                                    I wouldn't touch any of those domain even before this law went into effect, but you have to be down right nuts to register the two bellow. Those two are really really bad IMO and definetly meet the "deceptive url" standard.

                                                                                    kids-enter-here-square-pants-porn.com
                                                                                    fun-mp3-beanie-baby-porn.com


                                                                                    "kids enter here porn "? are you insaine ?
                                                                                    anyone that would really reg those would be certified bat shit insane

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