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EFFECTIVE DATESOriginally posted by c-loWill someone please answer this?!? It's been asked twice now, but as this thread proves, GFY's bickering & keyboard warrior drama will always take precedence over the constantly emerging threats & the clarity thereof...
Sometimes I wonder if it's even worth it. This industry is constantly being attacked, more rapidly now than ever. And yet we still can't come together for shit. I mean, if I was all 'anti-porn' & knew how unprofessional & unorganized this biz was, I'd take a shot at you, too.
So come together, people. Not just for this, but for every threat we are guaranteed to face for the many years to come.
/sad part
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I've read sec 502 and 503 several times and 502 doesent say when its effective starting date is. UNLESS it's assumed 90 days after being published in Federal Register. I don't know.
Sec 502 does not clearly specify today or 90 days after entering into the Federal Register.
(b) CONSTRUCTION.--The provisions of section 2257 shall not
apply to any depiction of actual sexually explicit conduct as
described in clause (v) of section 2256(2)(A) of title 18, United
States Code, produced in whole or in part, prior to the effective
date of this section unless that depiction also includes actual sexu-
ally explicit conduct as described in clauses (i) through (iv) of
section 2256(2)(A) of title 18, United States Code.
Sec 503 CLEARLY states 90 days after publishing in Federal Register:
The provisions of this section shall not become effective until
90 days after the final regulations implementing this section are published in the Federal Register.Last edited by BV; 07-27-2006, 09:17 PM.Comment
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that could mean you like to jerk off alot , it means nothing. lol Your not in our business,thats not a bad thing. You just dont understand.Originally posted by stickyfingerzdotnetYou again have no idea what I do. lol Here is a hint. I have 32 dvds all with 2257 info sitting on my desk atm.Comment
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Yup not in your business. What a fucktard you are. If you want to discuss what I do, Ill be in Florida next week. Be glad to discuss what I do there.Originally posted by tony404that could mean you like to jerk off alot , it means nothing. lol Your not in our business,thats not a bad thing. You just dont understand.
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again just because you go to conventions means nothing. Did I call you names keyboard warrior?Originally posted by stickyfingerzdotnetYup not in your business. What a fucktard you are. If you want to discuss what I do, Ill be in Florida next week. Be glad to discuss what I do there.
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I need to prove nothing to you. The people who know me know what I do. Im sure alot of people spend thousands of dollars to goto conventions when they are not in the business lol. Maybe 1 a year. Florida will be my 4th since March. What do you do? Is lovedollars your program?Originally posted by tony404again just because you go to conventions means nothing. Did I call you names keyboard warrior?Comment
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Thats what I am waiting to hear. How Google is exempt from this. What Google does with their 'images" is no different then TGP pages that use thumbnails. no different, except TGP's dont have stolen content on it and no CP either which google does.
Some how, I feel the multi billion dollar company will get a pass on this one.
No one has addressed the issue of LIVE Porn. Say I buy video feeds for my site, how do they plan on keeping track of stuff that is live and not archived ?
Wonder if AFF will be taking down all their nudy pics from user profiles?ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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No love dollars isnt mine.My wife is Mandy Blake, we produce and run two paysites. We have no program and in light of the new law god was smiling on me on that choice.Been doing it for 6 yrs and I have only been to one show the whole time. The money going to a show is better spent creating new content. A reporter from Klixx interviewed us for their mag dont know when its coming out, it should tell our story in detail. I may disagree with you but I have never given you the disrespect of calling you names.Originally posted by stickyfingerzdotnetI need to prove nothing to you. The people who know me know what I do. Im sure alot of people spend thousands of dollars to goto conventions when they are not in the business lol. Maybe 1 a year. Florida will be my 4th since March. What do you do? Is lovedollars your program?Comment
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You guys need to shut the fuck up. Go argue on ICQ or something and leave this thread alone for 2257 discussion...Comment
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Originally posted by BVEFFECTIVE DATES
I've read sec 502 and 503 several times and 502 doesent say when its effective starting date is. UNLESS it's assumed 90 days after being published in Federal Register. I don't know.
Sec 502 does not clearly specify today or 90 days after entering into the Federal Register.
(b) CONSTRUCTION.--The provisions of section 2257 shall not
apply to any depiction of actual sexually explicit conduct as
described in clause (v) of section 2256(2)(A) of title 18, United
States Code, produced in whole or in part, prior to the effective
date of this section unless that depiction also includes actual sexu-
ally explicit conduct as described in clauses (i) through (iv) of
section 2256(2)(A) of title 18, United States Code.
Sec 503 CLEARLY states 90 days after publishing in Federal Register:
The provisions of this section shall not become effective until
90 days after the final regulations implementing this section are published in the Federal Register.
Thanks for the info, BV. Any info is appreciated right now. The legal aspects of adult scare the hell out of me, and I'm sure I'm not alone.
On a sidenote, for the sake of this thread, will you guys (stickyfingerz & tony) just agree to meet up for a drink in FL or something? (just dont talk about legalities
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It'd be nice to keep this one on topic, ya know?
And will76, I've noticed several people asking what Google is going to have to do in this situation, as well as AFF & all the cam/live sex sites. Maybe you should make a thread for it. You'd probably get suggestions that are more on topic that way.
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Can someone break this down a little more? It's kind of confusing...Originally posted by BVEFFECTIVE DATES
I've read sec 502 and 503 several times and 502 doesent say when its effective starting date is. UNLESS it's assumed 90 days after being published in Federal Register. I don't know.
Sec 502 does not clearly specify today or 90 days after entering into the Federal Register.
(b) CONSTRUCTION.--The provisions of section 2257 shall not
apply to any depiction of actual sexually explicit conduct as
described in clause (v) of section 2256(2)(A) of title 18, United
States Code, produced in whole or in part, prior to the effective
date of this section unless that depiction also includes actual sexu-
ally explicit conduct as described in clauses (i) through (iv) of
section 2256(2)(A) of title 18, United States Code.
Sec 503 CLEARLY states 90 days after publishing in Federal Register:
The provisions of this section shall not become effective until
90 days after the final regulations implementing this section are published in the Federal Register.Comment
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The best defense against this is to challenge these guys to hold their newly drafted bills under public scrutiny. I don't know if its possible to reverse this but in the future they obviously need to be held more accountable. Such a major thing like this happened in a short span of six days. That's hardly enough time for everyone to collaborate. Fortunately there are industry execs in Washington's think tank helping the situation but there's gotta be more so do your part, join the FSC, write to congress etc. It is possible to reach a solid resolution to an ongoing problem.Comment
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You're right, sorry I shouldnt group you in with all the others that are here simply here to argue politics. I appologize for calling you a name. Though you shouldnt underestimate me and what I do.Originally posted by tony404No love dollars isnt mine.My wife is Mandy Blake, we produce and run two paysites. We have no program and in light of the new law god was smiling on me on that choice.Been doing it for 6 yrs and I have only been to one show the whole time. The money going to a show is better spent creating new content. A reporter from Klixx interviewed us for their mag dont know when its coming out, it should tell our story in detail. I may disagree with you but I have never given you the disrespect of calling you names.Comment
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Your right and Im sorry also.Originally posted by stickyfingerzdotnetYou're right, sorry I shouldnt group you in with all the others that are here simply here to argue politics. I appologize for calling you a name. Though you shouldnt underestimate me and what I do.Comment
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As far as the law, instead of freaking out.Im sure at internext some lawyer is going to speak on this at length. The real problem with 2257 and all the changes in the words of my lawyer.Until it goes to court, its all opinions on how to handle it.Comment
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does anyone else think that since Bush and his time in office and power is running out fast that he is just trying to fuck up as much stuff as possible ?super deluxe steak with extra steak
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Sure.. perhaps not so much fuckup (he does not even have to try to do that)... but who knows Jimmy, - I would not be the slightest surprised to see his mob in power yet again. There is nothing like prepping up for the next sessionOriginally posted by Jimmy The Juggernautdoes anyone else think that since Bush and his time in office and power is running out fast that he is just trying to fuck up as much stuff as possible ?
There sure is a fetish over children in this Admin and that is neither healthy or in any way in the interests of children - (OK .. I'll give em 2 marks for the little bit of good it may have had) - but at the core, it's sheer bollocks and little more overall than child abuse. And, of course, designed to fuck others up as well.
Forgetting all political crap, they sure have not served the US well - and fucked up big time outside the US. If that crap continues, there is no way other than a downwards spiral - it's not even sane.XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.Comment
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It's not settled yet.... it still has to be tested in and interpreted by the courts. Go get em, FSC!Comment
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yep so trueOriginally posted by spider_xFBI raiding for 2257 on Diabolic Productions, Amending 2257, Prosecuting cumonherface.com, raiding max hardcore STILL HAS NOT put a dent on sex crimes. The wrong targets are STILL being fired upon. IT HAS TO STOP.Comment
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When 2257 had new regulations last year, they said it would effect content from that day on .... so I, too, am curious if this affects content as of today or are they grandfathering it.Make bank by giving your surfers free pics every day and it costs you NOTHING! Use POTD Sponsors to find adult sponsors in more than 75 niches who offer a POTD feature!Comment
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Originally posted by $5 submissionsIt's not settled yet.... it still has to be tested in and interpreted by the courts. Go get em, FSC!
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What gets me is this stupid fucking bush is talking about exploitation of kids, how they are going to protect them, meanwhile Bush and his band of merry dirtbag politicians are using Adam Walshes death as the platform to sneak in a law they couldn't get passed prior, along with other laws that are totally obsurd. I call this a form of exploitation.
This law is not going to protect children...it will only protect them after it is too late. Fucking parents need to keep an eye on their kids and maybe this crap wouldn't happen, and shame on Mr. Walsh for letting Bush and his band of merry dirtbags exploit his childs name to pass a bogus law and shame on Walsh for not watching his kid at K-Mart.
Just my
Maybe we should have laws that throw these fucking parents in jail for 10 years for not suprivising their fucking little rugrats. It's time for some of the responsibility to be put on the parents.
If you were a parent wouldn't you put your smut magazines away so your kid wouldn't find them? Would you put your weapons in a safe place so your kid did not get to it? If your wife loves dildo's wouldn't you put it away so your kid couldn't see it?
So why can't fucking parent's take responsibility and watch their fucking kid while they are on the computer? Everyone else is to blame execpt the fucking parent's and their special little offspring's.Amateur ContentICQ: 292 356 077Comment
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He can't fuck anything else up, he has ruined the country, drove the deficit through the roof. He needs to go back to being a wanna be cowboy. I can't wait to see this dirtbag out of office...Originally posted by Jimmy The Juggernautdoes anyone else think that since Bush and his time in office and power is running out fast that he is just trying to fuck up as much stuff as possible ?
Last edited by Nikki_Licks; 07-28-2006, 06:15 AM.Amateur ContentICQ: 292 356 077Comment
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" Whoever knowingly uses a misleading domain name on the Internet with the intent to deceive a person into viewing material constituting obscenity shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both."
2 years in prison... are they fucking insane. It's laughable, pathetic and totally crazy.
Concentrate on something more important you fucking idiots.
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Thats the section that I've been looking at a bit more too. But the words "with the intent to deceive" is really key. I have a domain without "sex" or "porn" in it. It's all text, and has a clear warning page as it's root index. It's clearly not deceptive, so I'm not worried.Originally posted by Troels" Whoever knowingly uses a misleading domain name on the Internet with the intent to deceive a person into viewing material constituting obscenity shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both."
How would someone PROVE "intent to deceive"? I'd think it would have to be very blatant. Like 1800flowerz.com or something, then wham a bunch of porn. Those sort of things SHOULD be stopped, so I'm not really sure that this is a bad thing in any way honestly..
It seems the main core of 2257 is unchanged except for the part about what constitutes "sexually explicit".43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.
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The main core is that all these laws being implemented in effect are similar to tyrant rule where they can arrest anyone for anything. The same thing his Government are crusading worldwide againt. It's so fucking weak and hypocritical.
It's absolutely insane, and I for one will never ever visit again.
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Well yeah true. It doesnt make sense from the get-go to me either. I can understand internal record keeping, or even a requirement for the actual content shooters to maintain copies of the relevant records. But asking 100% of legit adult businesses to keep records when they didnt even produce the content is insane.
It'd be like requiring all car dealers to maintain the same records as a car manufacturer because there is an illegal chop-shop ring operating. Retarded.43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.
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So domain names such as these are OK?Originally posted by KRL§ 2252B. Misleading domain names on the Internet
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(b) Whoever knowingly uses a misleading domain name on the Internet with the intent to deceive a minor into viewing material that is harmful to minors on the Internet shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 4 years, or both.
(c) For the purposes of this section, a domain name that includes a word or words to indicate the sexual content of the site, such as ?sex? or ?porn?, is not misleading.
kids-enter-here-square-pants-porn.com
mydisneytripsex.com
fun-mp3-beanie-baby-porn.com
mybabysittersexstories.com
mommy-dickcheneytouchedmeinaprivatearea-sex.comComment
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I wouldn't touch any of those domain even before this law went into effect, but you have to be down right nuts to register the two bellow. Those two are really really bad IMO and definetly meet the "deceptive url" standard.Originally posted by DaddyHalbucksSo domain names such as these are OK?
kids-enter-here-square-pants-porn.com
mydisneytripsex.com
fun-mp3-beanie-baby-porn.com
mybabysittersexstories.com
mommy-dickcheneytouchedmeinaprivatearea-sex.com
kids-enter-here-square-pants-porn.com
fun-mp3-beanie-baby-porn.com
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anyone that would really reg those would be certified bat shit insaneOriginally posted by will76I wouldn't touch any of those domain even before this law went into effect, but you have to be down right nuts to register the two bellow. Those two are really really bad IMO and definetly meet the "deceptive url" standard.
kids-enter-here-square-pants-porn.com
fun-mp3-beanie-baby-porn.com
"kids enter here porn "? are you insaine ?Comment




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