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  • pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE
    So Fucking Banned
    • Oct 2005
    • 5133
    #151
    ISRAEL will gets whats coming to them for killing those children

    that is one thing NO ONE should stand for no matter what their religion is

    Isreal has made it clear they have no regard for non jewish life

    FUCK ISRAEL

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      • directfiesta
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Oct 2002
        • 30182
        #152
        Originally posted by CDSmith
        Oh goody, childish side-arguments, my favorite!


        Oh wait... no it isn't. :D

        Proving a negative is not possible ...

        If accused of murder, the crown ( hey, Canada afteall) has to prove, without a single doubt, that you commited the crime.

        But sure, it is a childish argument...
        I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

        But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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          • directfiesta
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Oct 2002
            • 30182
            #153
            Originally posted by CDSmith
            Okay, where?

            If It were me I'd move to Tahitii.
            From 1948 to know ( I think you stated that date ), they took over adjacent land. As a result, they have more than tripled their surface,
            I posted a Powerpoint animation on this ( with the massacres done also ), but who will watch that ...

            Muslims are scum, they are terrorist, they killed babies in Kuwait, they run torture chambers, bla bla bla .....

            So, now, they are going somewhere: taking Lebanon land, claiming to make a buffer, putting soldiers, then families of the soldiers, then a small kibutz , then a settlement ...

            Anyway, you are right... you are always right ... If I ever come back on earth, I want to be you ....
            I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

            But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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              • CDSmith
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • May 2001
                • 51460
                #154
                Originally posted by directfiesta
                It answered exactly your question ...
                No, it didn't. Like I said, the first strike in that example was the building of a nuclear threat to the Israelis. The destruction of it was the reaction.

                Originally posted by directfiesta
                Now, if there was measures to be taken, the UN at the time had the power, as it did in the first gulf war ...

                You can spin as much as you want, the event then and the new upcoming possible agression, it still was an agression, so an answer to your question.
                Yes, building the nuclear facility was an aggression, you're right.

                Now, can we be done playing who's the bad guy in all this and just agree that we'd all really just like it to end? It strikes me that if the rest of the world would quit bickering and stand together against what's going on over there things might just eventually change.

                Okay I'll just tell the little idealist in me to shut up now. :D
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                  • CDSmith
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                    • May 2001
                    • 51460
                    #155
                    Originally posted by pussyserver
                    ISRAEL will gets whats coming to them for killing those children

                    that is one thing NO ONE should stand for no matter what their religion is

                    Isreal has made it clear they have no regard for non jewish life

                    FUCK ISRAEL
                    Ah, and Hezbollah receives another angry recruit.

                    Somebody hand this man a rifle!
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                      • CDSmith
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                        • May 2001
                        • 51460
                        #156
                        Originally posted by directfiesta
                        From 1948 to know ( I think you stated that date ),
                        Israel, the nation as we know it today, became a nation in 1948.
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                          • directfiesta
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                            • Oct 2002
                            • 30182
                            #157
                            Originally posted by CDSmith
                            No, it didn't. Like I said, the first strike in that example was the building of a nuclear threat to the Israelis. The destruction of it was the reaction.
                            I answered... now spin ....

                            Originally posted by CDSmith
                            Yes, building the nuclear facility was an aggression, you're right.

                            Never said that ... Quote ?
                            I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                            But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                              • directfiesta
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Oct 2002
                                • 30182
                                #158
                                Originally posted by CDSmith
                                Israel, the nation as we know it today, became a nation in 1948.
                                ???

                                did I say the contrary .... then it went on a land grabbing path ... naturally, no interest in seeing that presentation, you are Mr. know-it-all ...

                                Out of here, going to educate myself ....
                                I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                  • pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                    So Fucking Banned
                                    • Oct 2005
                                    • 5133
                                    #159
                                    Originally posted by CDSmith
                                    Ah, and Hezbollah receives another angry recruit.

                                    Somebody hand this man a rifle!

                                    I think its real cowardly of israel to bomb lebanon into oblivion instead of sending soilders in to get the job done

                                    had that been the united states our boys would have had boots on the ground getting the job done instead of air bombing the shit out of children

                                    This really pisses me off

                                    so my question is this do you feel that israel is going about it the wrong way??

                                    do you think they need to man up and put boots on the ground and stop blindy air bombing those children??
                                    .
                                    the death of 37 children is sickening to me is it to you??

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                                      • CDSmith
                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                        • May 2001
                                        • 51460
                                        #160
                                        Originally posted by directfiesta
                                        I answered... now spin ....
                                        No spin at all. We just see the example in two different ways, as do a lot of other people in the world. I could just as easily accuse you of spinning the issue to suit your point


                                        [QUOTE=directfiestathen it went on a land grabbing path ... naturally, no interest in seeing that presentation, you are Mr. know-it-all ...[/QUOTE]You know, you've always had an interesting way of sneaking in the childish shots like "Mr know it all" etc.... which makes it all the easier to deal with your foolishness. Thank you.

                                        Of course those "land-grabbing paths" you mentioned (I assume you're referring to such things in the past 4 decades as Gaza and Golan Heights, stuff like that, yes?) all have extenuating circumstances that would take volumes to debate about. Aside from all that I can see that whenever I make a statement or pose a question like "when did Israel ever make an unprovoked attack?" it is always a guy like you who feels the need to dig and dig and make comments full of sarcasm in order to (at least try) to disprove it, while conveniently ignoring anything I may have said that you can actually aggree with.

                                        Now why is that?

                                        Nevermind, I already know. :D

                                        Originally posted by directfiesta
                                        Out of here, going to educate myself ....
                                        That's the best thing you've posted since you joined the board.
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                                          • jayeff
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                                            • May 2001
                                            • 2944
                                            #161
                                            Originally posted by CDSmith
                                            either someone in the regioun finds a way to adapt and move on with their lives or they continue to fight. Forever.
                                            Forever seems the most likely option, when you look around the world at the consequences of other examples of map drawing by people with no regard for local circumstances. By the standards of many places the Israeli/Palestinian dispute is still in its infancy and so far, a lot less bloody than many of these other conflicts.

                                            What you write sounds rational enough, except the only "someone" we really expect to find a way to "adapt and move on" in this case are the Palestinians. And the only thing they have to adapt to right now, is life in what are effectively giant prisons (The West Bank and Gaza), refugee camps (in Lebanon and elsewhere), or as third-class "guests" in other arab countries where they are barely tolerated.

                                            Or is the idea that one or more arab countries should offer them a real home? The problem with that is there isn't a regime in the region which is securely in power and wouldn't be sealing its own fate with such an offer.

                                            Which is exactly the problem Israel itself faces. UN resolution 194 expresses the concept that "refugees wishing to return to their homes and live at peace with their neighbors should be permitted to do so at the earliest practicable date, and that compensation should be paid for the property of those choosing not to return and for loss of or damage to property which, under principles of international law or in equity, should be made good by the Governments or authorities responsible...".

                                            But Israel would hardly be a Jewish state, the reason for its existence, if it held more arabs than jews. So they interpret "should" and "permitted" to imply a recommendation rather than a requirement and as such, choose to ignore it. Which closes that door too.

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                                              • SmokeyTheBear
                                                ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                • Jun 2004
                                                • 28609
                                                #162
                                                Originally posted by CDSmith
                                                Maybe you can show proof that shows that without a shadow of a doubt there are no Hezbollah personel at those locations or that they aren't being funded or supplied from those people.
                                                i dont doubt there werent hexbollah at those location , im not trying to claim they are bombing kids with the sole intention of killing kids..

                                                you asked fo rme to point out when israel " struck the first blow" and i pointed out israel attacked the lebanese army in lebanon not the other way around infact the lebanese ermy hasnt attacked israel.. you flipped the scenario around instead of admitting they are attacking someone first and now you're going at it from a different angle.. back to the "theres a justification for killing babies because .... there was soldiers around ... people who funded them are around . and on and on.. " why not just agree that killing babies is wrong and if theres a way around killing babies it should be done.. so far neither the idf or hezbollah are abiding by that ideology


                                                Originally posted by CDSmith
                                                And like others (like Jayeff) are starting to point out here, none of it matters. If Israelis are monsters for their missiles killed innocents, so too are those in Lebanon for doing what they've done and then hiding amongst those innocents.


                                                .
                                                of course they are ..but if your going to make that scenario equal you must also agree the IDF are cowards for shooting missiles at civilians and hiding in tel aviv.

                                                if civilians in lebanon are just "casualties of war that should have heeded warnings and left " then so are civilians in israel ..
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                                                  • CDSmith
                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                    • May 2001
                                                    • 51460
                                                    #163
                                                    Originally posted by pussyserver
                                                    I think its real cowardly of israel to bomb lebanon into oblivion instead of sending soilders in to get the job done

                                                    had that been the united states our boys would have had boots on the ground getting the job done instead of air bombing the shit out of children

                                                    This really pisses me off

                                                    so my question is this do you feel that israel is going about it the wrong way??
                                                    But who am I to second-guess their military strategy? They are defending their country as best they can from what I can tell, and in war it's sad but the end often seems to justify the means (from the standpoint of either side).

                                                    Originally posted by pussyserver
                                                    do you think they need to man up and put boots on the ground and stop blindy air bombing those children??
                                                    In instances such as these I tend to put much of the responsibility on those who are hiding their soldiers amongst the innocent civilians, because I'm sure they know what it is they are doing. It's now a quite old trick in war -- attack the enemy, use innocents as human shields, enemy kills soldiers along with innocents, then cry to the world to gain support because enemy killed our kids!

                                                    I'm quite sure those who gave the order to fire in retaliation didn't say "I hope we kill some kids with this missile, ha ha ha ha!... FIRE!!"

                                                    .
                                                    Originally posted by pussyserver
                                                    the death of 37 children is sickening to me is it to you??
                                                    You really have to see your question from where I sit, because from here it reads as completely melodramatic, idiotic, and irrational. I don't think there's a person on this board (aside from the odd mental case troll) who isn't outraged, shaken or otherwise blown away by the news and images of those kids.
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                                                      • CDSmith
                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                        • May 2001
                                                        • 51460
                                                        #164
                                                        Originally posted by jayeff
                                                        Forever seems the most likely option, when you look around the world at the consequences of other examples of map drawing by people with no regard for local circumstances. By the standards of many places the Israeli/Palestinian dispute is still in its infancy and so far, a lot less bloody than many of these other conflicts.

                                                        What you write sounds rational enough, except the only "someone" we really expect to find a way to "adapt and move on" in this case are the Palestinians. And the only thing they have to adapt to right now, is life in what are effectively giant prisons (The West Bank and Gaza), refugee camps (in Lebanon and elsewhere), or as third-class "guests" in other arab countries where they are barely tolerated.

                                                        Or is the idea that one or more arab countries should offer them a real home? The problem with that is there isn't a regime in the region which is securely in power and wouldn't be sealing its own fate with such an offer.

                                                        Which is exactly the problem Israel itself faces. UN resolution 194 expresses the concept that "refugees wishing to return to their homes and live at peace with their neighbors should be permitted to do so at the earliest practicable date, and that compensation should be paid for the property of those choosing not to return and for loss of or damage to property which, under principles of international law or in equity, should be made good by the Governments or authorities responsible...".

                                                        But Israel would hardly be a Jewish state, the reason for its existence, if it held more arabs than jews. So they interpret "should" and "permitted" to imply a recommendation rather than a requirement and as such, choose to ignore it. Which closes that door too.
                                                        Well, now, I never said there wasn't some issues of being unwilling to compromise on both sides. I know full well that there is, but I also know that the Israelis are not just going to pack up and move. I'm not sure why it's in my nature to, when faced with a conflict or problem or dilema, look first for the "givens" and process the rest of the facts from there.

                                                        This situation in the Middle East kind of resembles the old physics question of the irresistable force hitting the immovable object. I'm not sure I like the outcome my mind is projecting.

                                                        Btw, have I mentioned lately that having a debate/conversation with you is.... a pleasure?
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                                                          • directfiesta
                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                            • Oct 2002
                                                            • 30182
                                                            #165
                                                            Originally posted by CDSmith

                                                            Of course those "land-grabbing paths" you mentioned (I assume you're referring to such things in the past 4 decades as Gaza and Golan Heights, stuff like that, yes?) all have extenuating circumstances
                                                            Don't assume , get informed ! no links, no interest to see that presentation ... you know it all ....


                                                            Originally posted by CDSmith
                                                            pose a question like "when did Israel ever make an unprovoked attack?"
                                                            That is not the question you asked ... maybe you think it is ... why don`t you quote your question ...


                                                            As I said, spin and pretention.
                                                            I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                                            But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                                              • theking
                                                                Nice Kitty
                                                                • Sep 2002
                                                                • 21053
                                                                #166
                                                                Originally posted by CDSmith
                                                                Well, now, I never said there wasn't some issues of being unwilling to compromise on both sides. I know full well that there is, but I also know that the Israelis are not just going to pack up and move. I'm not sure why it's in my nature to, when faced with a conflict or problem or dilema, look first for the "givens" and process the rest of the facts from there.

                                                                This situation in the Middle East kind of resembles the old physics question of the irresistable force hitting the immovable object. I'm not sure I like the outcome my mind is projecting.

                                                                Btw, have I mentioned lately that having a debate/conversation with you is.... a pleasure?
                                                                Having read your posts in this thread, as is normal for you, once again you are level headed, have wisdom and are correct for the most part CD. As I have stated in the past this seems to be unusual for your fellow countrymen.

                                                                One in particular of course is DirectFiesta. He has the same agenda as always. Where as you do not usually appear to have an agenda other than being level headed. People with agenda's are not to be trusted.
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                                                                  • theking
                                                                    Nice Kitty
                                                                    • Sep 2002
                                                                    • 21053
                                                                    #167
                                                                    Originally posted by directfiesta
                                                                    Don't assume , get informed ! no links, no interest to see that presentation ... you know it all ....




                                                                    That is not the question you asked ... maybe you think it is ... why don`t you quote your question ...


                                                                    As I said, spin and pretention.
                                                                    Still the same agenda eh?
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                                                                      • CDSmith
                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                        • May 2001
                                                                        • 51460
                                                                        #168
                                                                        Originally posted by directfiesta
                                                                        Don't assume , get informed ! no links, no interest to see that presentation ... you know it all ....
                                                                        Have I told you lately that your brand of arguing with someone is a tad on the childish side?

                                                                        You're assuming because I didn't write an essay but instead kept my point brief that I am somehow uninformed. Where's your essay?




                                                                        Originally posted by directfiesta
                                                                        That is not the question you asked ... maybe you think it is ... why don`t you quote your question ...
                                                                        You may not know this fiesta boy, but in the English language you can use different words to say the same thing.

                                                                        Neato eh?

                                                                        Both forms of the question ask the same thing.

                                                                        Any other hairs you'd care to split?

                                                                        Originally posted by directfiesta
                                                                        :As I said, spin and pretention.
                                                                        Right back at ya Frenchie.
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                                                                          • directfiesta
                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                            • Oct 2002
                                                                            • 30182
                                                                            #169
                                                                            Originally posted by theking
                                                                            Still the same agenda eh?
                                                                            Why don't you quote is question ... once you get your nose out of his ass ...

                                                                            ' making a building ' is now an agression ...



                                                                            Happy to see that you support children murderers ...
                                                                            I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                                                            But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                                                              • directfiesta
                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                • Oct 2002
                                                                                • 30182
                                                                                #170
                                                                                Originally posted by CDSmith
                                                                                Have I told you lately that your brand of arguing with someone is a tad on the childish side?

                                                                                You're assuming because I didn't write an essay but instead kept my point brief that I am somehow uninformed. Where's your essay?




                                                                                You may not know this fiesta boy, but in the English language you can use different words to say the same thing.

                                                                                Neato eh?

                                                                                Both forms of the question ask the same thing.

                                                                                Any other hairs you'd care to split?

                                                                                Right back at ya Frenchie.

                                                                                NP, squarehead
                                                                                I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                                                                But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                                                                  • CDSmith
                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                    • May 2001
                                                                                    • 51460
                                                                                    #171
                                                                                    Whoa, theKing is back.

                                                                                    Where have YOU been?
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                                                                                      • KRL
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                                                                                        • Oct 2002
                                                                                        • 31429
                                                                                        #172
                                                                                        Holy cow, Mel Gibson really does hate Jews.

                                                                                        Man, his Hollywood career is over now for sure.

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                                                                                          • Damian_Maxcash
                                                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                                                            • Oct 2002
                                                                                            • 12745
                                                                                            #173
                                                                                            Originally posted by theking
                                                                                            Still the same agenda eh?
                                                                                            Damn, I havnt seen you for ages - I thought I could smell some blind patriotism in the air.

                                                                                            Although, as much as it hurts me to say it - we could actually agree on something here.

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                                                                                              • CDSmith
                                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                • May 2001
                                                                                                • 51460
                                                                                                #174
                                                                                                Originally posted by KRL
                                                                                                Holy cow, Mel Gibson really does hate Jews.

                                                                                                Man, his Hollywood career is over now for sure.

                                                                                                http://www.tmz.com/

                                                                                                The report says Gibson then launched into a barrage of anti-Semitic statements: "F*****g Jews... The Jews are responsible for all the wars in the world." Gibson then asked the deputy, "Are you a Jew?"
                                                                                                That must have been some killer tequila.
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                                                                                                  • theking
                                                                                                    Nice Kitty
                                                                                                    • Sep 2002
                                                                                                    • 21053
                                                                                                    #175
                                                                                                    Originally posted by directfiesta
                                                                                                    Why don't you quote is question ... once you get your nose out of his ass ...

                                                                                                    ' making a building ' is now an agression ...



                                                                                                    Happy to see that you support children murderers ...
                                                                                                    News flash people die when engaged in combat/war...including children. It has always been this way in war. War is a tragic and virtually a criminal event. It is the obligation of any military to target what it percieves to be a danger to its defense/soldiers. Israel is fighting this war in a half ass fashion... in order to avoid loss of life on both sides...which is the wrong way to conduct war. The US has done the same thing in Iraq. I am a proponent of General Patton who had the belief that the way to save lives is to end the war as soon as possible by the sacrifice of lives in the short term to save lives in the long term. In other words use overwhelming force and get it done and over with.
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                                                                                                      • KRL
                                                                                                        Entrepreneur
                                                                                                        • Oct 2002
                                                                                                        • 31429
                                                                                                        #176
                                                                                                        The problem is this is an urban war which is the hardest type to fight.

                                                                                                        Hezbollah operates and launches from civilian neighborhoods not easy to spot and target military bases. Missles and weapons are stored in people's garages and launched from civilian neighborhoods on trucks.

                                                                                                        So this type of situation will always create tragedies like what has been happening.

                                                                                                        Its very fucked up to see anyone's kids die.

                                                                                                        At the same time if a powerful group like Hezbollah is publicly stating their mission is to destroy Israel and wipe their whole country off the map, and is continuing to fire over 100 missles a day into Israel, Israel doesn't have many options as to how to respond.

                                                                                                        I hate violence. But all sides in this war are used to it and have had violent conflicts for decades. So diplomacy doesn't work well, because both sides are notorious for not honoring their agreements.

                                                                                                        Why anyone would want to live in this part of the world to begin with is beyond my comprehension. Even if I had not a single dollar I would find a way get my family the fuck out of that land. Everyone there is living on a timebomb just waiting to explode.
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                                                                                                          • CDSmith
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                                                                                                            • May 2001
                                                                                                            • 51460
                                                                                                            #177
                                                                                                            Originally posted by directfiesta
                                                                                                            Why don't you quote is question ... once you get your nose out of his ass ...

                                                                                                            ' making a building ' is now an agression ...



                                                                                                            Happy to see that you support children murderers ...
                                                                                                            1. For the "turd" time, the two forms of my "question" are, although worded differently, both the same question.

                                                                                                            2. If that building contains a nuclear reactor, it certainly can be construed as an aggression, in that it holds the potential for and/or intent of aggression. Otherwise why hit that particular building? Why didn't they destroy one of Iran's government's outdoor shitters?

                                                                                                            3. "Happy to see that you support children murderers" ---- this is without a doubt one of your dumbest statements you've ever made in your checkered posting history. Congrats on hitting another branch during your fall off the stupid tree.
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                                                                                                              • theking
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                                                                                                                • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                • 21053
                                                                                                                #178
                                                                                                                I noticed that you called him Frenchy. Question...CD...is he really French?
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                                                                                                                  • Ivana Fukalot
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                                                                                                                    • Mar 2006
                                                                                                                    • 2482
                                                                                                                    #179
                                                                                                                    I hate war and stupid people!

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                                                                                                                      • yahoo-xxx-girls.com
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                                                                                                                        • Jul 2006
                                                                                                                        • 3143
                                                                                                                        #180
                                                                                                                        Very true... SmokeyTheBear... Its very sad what is going on over there !!!

                                                                                                                        Why can't people just stop already with the killing and BS !
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                                                                                                                          • Odin
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                                                                                                                            • Jan 2004
                                                                                                                            • 2545
                                                                                                                            #181
                                                                                                                            Originally posted by KRL
                                                                                                                            Holy cow, Mel Gibson really does hate Jews.

                                                                                                                            Man, his Hollywood career is over now for sure.

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                                                                                                                            I hope Mel overcomes his alcohol problems and has the conviction to say what he knows and feels out loud and sober. You're right though, none of the big companies will hire him again, actually many of the top Jewish executives already don't wish to work with him (such as Dreamworks) because they don't like having someone in the town in who doesn't dance their dance. But hey, Mel has more than enough money now to make his own successful films, even if they try to get in his way on distribution (as they did with the Passion) there is no doubt if he puts the effort in he can make a real dent in the Jewish and Zionist powerhouse of Hollywood.
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                                                                                                                              • Webby
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                                                                                                                                • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                • 14956
                                                                                                                                #182
                                                                                                                                Originally posted by theking
                                                                                                                                I noticed that you called him Frenchy. Question...CD...is he really French?
                                                                                                                                No.. just the usual droll attempts at labelling and insulting...

                                                                                                                                He was born in the US and a US citizen - tho may have other passports, who knows?
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                                                                                                                                  • potter
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                                                                                                                                    • Dec 2004
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                                                                                                                                    #183
                                                                                                                                    And more ignorant political garbage from smokey, you are such a tool.

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                                                                                                                                      • SmokeyTheBear
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                                                                                                                                        • Jun 2004
                                                                                                                                        • 28609
                                                                                                                                        #184
                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by potter
                                                                                                                                        And more ignorant political garbage from smokey, you are such a tool.
                                                                                                                                        another gutless coward who cant argue the topics

                                                                                                                                        "say no to war .." damn that political garbage
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                                                                                                                                          • Mr. Blue
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                                                                                                                                            • Jan 2005
                                                                                                                                            • 536
                                                                                                                                            #185
                                                                                                                                            Well, I was going to stay out of this thread, but I'm surprised no one has raised the point of UN Resolution 1559.

                                                                                                                                            Basically this resolution was set forth in 2004 to disarm all the Lebanese and Non-Lebanese militias in the area. It states that foreign forces are to remove themselves from Lebanon and that, "...for the disbanding and disarmament of all Lebanese and non-Lebanese militias"

                                                                                                                                            Hezbollah is a militia, supported by Syria and Iran, and The UN should have had peacekeepers there not that long after the 2004 resolution to help the Lebanese government remove these militias, disarm these groups, and give a chance for the Lebanese to get a hold of it's government. I'm not sure what the UN is good for, they pass meaningless resolution after meaningless resolution.

                                                                                                                                            As for what happened yesterday, it's very sad what happened, and it's unfortunate. Civilian casualties in war is always tragic, but it does happen, especially when an organization like Hezbollah is attacking from civilian areas. Also, there's some questions at to why it took 7 hours for the building to collapse. I'd personally wait to pass judgement until the facts of what happened are a little clearer.

                                                                                                                                            If the UN disarmed Hezbollah in cooperation with the Lebanese government, this little conflict wouldn't be going on now...but since the UN didn't, Israel has to be allowed to defend itself.
                                                                                                                                            See Sig...oh wait.

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                                                                                                                                              • Webby
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                                                                                                                                                • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                                • 14956
                                                                                                                                                #186
                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by Mr. Blue
                                                                                                                                                Well, I was going to stay out of this thread, but I'm surprised no one has raised the point of UN Resolution 1559.

                                                                                                                                                Basically this resolution was set forth in 2004 to disarm all the Lebanese and Non-Lebanese militias in the area. It states that foreign forces are to remove themselves from Lebanon and that, "...for the disbanding and disarmament of all Lebanese and non-Lebanese militias"

                                                                                                                                                Hezbollah is a militia, supported by Syria and Iran, and The UN should have had peacekeepers there not that long after the 2004 resolution to help the Lebanese government remove these militias, disarm these groups, and give a chance for the Lebanese to get a hold of it's government. I'm not sure what the UN is good for, they pass meaningless resolution after meaningless resolution.

                                                                                                                                                As for what happened yesterday, it's very sad what happened, and it's unfortunate. Civilian casualties in war is always tragic, but it does happen, especially when an organization like Hezbollah is attacking from civilian areas. Also, there's some questions at to why it took 7 hours for the building to collapse. I'd personally wait to pass judgement until the facts of what happened are a little clearer.

                                                                                                                                                If the UN disarmed Hezbollah in cooperation with the Lebanese government, this little conflict wouldn't be going on now...but since the UN didn't, Israel has to be allowed to defend itself.
                                                                                                                                                1559 is more an issue of removing Syrian forces from Lebanon and this happened in the end.

                                                                                                                                                Try UN Resolution 242 which calls from the removal of all Israeli forces from "occupied territories". That is the core of the current problem and has been for decades. It is very doubtful organizations like Hezbollah would exist if there was compliance with 242.
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                                                                                                                                                  • xmas13
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                                                                                                                                                    • Dec 2004
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                                                                                                                                                    #187
                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                                                                                    i feel bad for israel too , but thats no reason to murder babies..

                                                                                                                                                    I feel bad for the homeless guy at the end of the block with no legs , but if he started murdering babies i wouldnt feel so bad for him.
                                                                                                                                                    They dont murder children you stupid fuck.

                                                                                                                                                    F-16 planes destroyed houses and this people were under the houses.

                                                                                                                                                    PS: All inhabitants were supposed to have left the region. Or maybe they dont understand Arabic papers falling from the sky saying "please go away or you will die". Parents are RESPONSIBLE for their kids, not militaries doing their job (bombarding Hizbullah villages).
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                                                                                                                                                      • SmokeyTheBear
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                                                                                                                                                        • Jun 2004
                                                                                                                                                        • 28609
                                                                                                                                                        #188
                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by xmas13
                                                                                                                                                        They dont murder children you stupid fuck.

                                                                                                                                                        F-16 planes destroyed houses and this people were under the houses.
                                                                                                                                                        do you have any idea how stupid that sounds .. they dont murder children , they murder houses that children are in... umm okay fine they murder houses with children in them

                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by xmas13
                                                                                                                                                        PS: All inhabitants were supposed to have left the region. Or maybe they dont understand Arabic papers falling from the sky saying "please go away or you will die". Parents are RESPONSIBLE for their kids, not militaries doing their job (bombarding Hizbullah villages).
                                                                                                                                                        P.S. all of israel was supposed to evacuate or maybe they didnt understand the arab rockets floating in around their cities saying " stop killing our babies or we will kill your babies " israeli parents are responsible for their kids not the idf or hezbollah doing their job ( bombing idf villages )

                                                                                                                                                        do you realise how stupid that sounds when its reversed . ??
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                                                                                                                                                          • directfiesta
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                                                                                                                                                            • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                                            • 30182
                                                                                                                                                            #189
                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by Mr. Blue

                                                                                                                                                            If the UN disarmed Hezbollah in cooperation with the Lebanese government, this little conflict wouldn't be going on now...but since the UN didn't, Israel has to be allowed to defend itself.
                                                                                                                                                            It is more complicated than that :

                                                                                                                                                            Lebanon Shuns Israel-Hezbollah Fight to Avert War (Update1)

                                                                                                                                                            July 28 (Bloomberg) -- Lebanon's government is keeping its army away from the battlefront between Israeli forces and Hezbollah fighters because it lacks the firepower to sway the conflict and fears it may spark a civil war by intervening.
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                                                                                                                                                            Risk of Disintegration

                                                                                                                                                            The Lebanese army would ``likely disintegrate if it clashes with Hezbollah because it is made of soldiers and officers who belong to the different communities that make up Lebanon, and to a significant extent the Shiite community,'' said Sukkarieh.

                                                                                                                                                            Ehud Olmert, Israel's prime minister, is aware of Lebanon's weakness, even as he pushes for implementation of UN Security Council Resolution 1559. The resolution, adopted in September 2004, calls for disarming Hezbollah and deploying the Lebanese army throughout the country.

                                                                                                                                                            Israel plans to hold onto a chunk of southern Lebanon, recreating a ``security zone'' it occupied for 18 years, until an international force can ``strengthen the Lebanese army'' so it can reclaim the region from Hezbollah, the government said in a statement this week.

                                                                                                                                                            http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...Ijo&refer=home
                                                                                                                                                            Now, this is not my opinion, or me repeating what Al-Jezeera prints and so on ...

                                                                                                                                                            So, why would Lebanon have to go in a civil war ( as it did 20 years ago or so ) ....
                                                                                                                                                            I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                                                                                                                                            But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                                                                                                                                              • HpicAnn
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                                                                                                                                                                • Mar 2005
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                                                                                                                                                                #190
                                                                                                                                                                That`s sad, but they are being exterminated by themselves!
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                                                                                                                                                                  • alexg
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                                                                                                                                                                    • Aug 2003
                                                                                                                                                                    • 11287
                                                                                                                                                                    #191
                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                                                                                                    the israeli children's parents belong to the idf the lebanese children killed werent all or even mostly hezbollah
                                                                                                                                                                    oh?

                                                                                                                                                                    what about the israeli children who died, got wounded, or got psychologically traumatized for the rest of their lives because of hezbollah rockets?

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                                                                                                                                                                      • seven
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                                                                                                                                                                        #192
                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Webby
                                                                                                                                                                        1559 is more an issue of removing Syrian forces from Lebanon and this happened in the end.

                                                                                                                                                                        Try UN Resolution 242 which calls from the removal of all Israeli forces from "occupied territories". That is the core of the current problem and has been for decades. It is very doubtful organizations like Hezbollah would exist if there was compliance with 242.
                                                                                                                                                                        just what i was gonna say
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                                                                                                                                                                          • seven
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                                                                                                                                                                            #193
                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by alexg
                                                                                                                                                                            oh?

                                                                                                                                                                            what about the israeli children who died, got wounded, or got psychologically traumatized for the rest of their lives because of hezbollah rockets?
                                                                                                                                                                            I thought uncle Alex was gonna be there for them as their shrink? no?
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                                                                                                                                                                              • Mr. Blue
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                                                                                                                                                                                • Jan 2005
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                                                                                                                                                                                #194
                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by Webby
                                                                                                                                                                                1559 is more an issue of removing Syrian forces from Lebanon and this happened in the end.

                                                                                                                                                                                Try UN Resolution 242 which calls from the removal of all Israeli forces from "occupied territories". That is the core of the current problem and has been for decades. It is very doubtful organizations like Hezbollah would exist if there was compliance with 242.
                                                                                                                                                                                Resolution 1559 (2004) did include Hezbollah as a militia that needed to be disbanded and disarmed. They are a militia, they weren't part of the government at the time of the agreement, and if the Lebanese people couldn't disarm them than the UN should have. Syria was also part of the problem, yes, and that was addressed in the resolution as well. Now, Lebanon played some politics regarding hezbollah, but it doesn't change the fact that the military wing of hezbollah is a militia that's in violation of 1559.

                                                                                                                                                                                Now, if Lebanon could have eliminated Hezbollah, a final peace treaty could have been signed between Lebanon and Israel. Just like the peace treaties that Israel signed with Egypt, Jordan, etc, etc, etc. When the peace treaty was signed there would have been negotiations regarding this "blue line" that the UN established.

                                                                                                                                                                                Also you're slightly wrong regarding Resolution 242 (1967)...it's big topic was "land for peace" and basically Israel isn't going to give back land until the arab nations involved quit attacking them. Now, how does this land for peace thing work? Well, it worked in 1979 when Egypt signed a peace treaty with Israel and Israel gave back Sinai Peninsula.

                                                                                                                                                                                Israel also gave back the Golan Heights to Syria in hopes for peace, but Syria bitched over 25 kilometers of land that wasn't even covered in the 1967 resolution.

                                                                                                                                                                                So, does Lebanon, Syria, etc, want their land back? Then try peace for awhile...Israel has been able to maintain peaceful relations with their neighbors that signed a peace treaty.

                                                                                                                                                                                Considering the dink from Hezbollah states, "Death To Israel" you can see that Hezbollah should have been disarmed by Lebanon and if Lebanon couldn't do it, The UN should have. Want peace? Stop fighting. Recognize Israel's right to exist and then bring it to the peace table.

                                                                                                                                                                                Instead, rockets get shot from civilian territories...gee, is there any surprise that civilians will die when they're used as human shields? It's an ugly situation, but peace will only come when people stop fighting over small bits of worthless land. Israel isn't going anywhere, so you might as well just deal with it and sign a peace treaty and work something out.
                                                                                                                                                                                See Sig...oh wait.

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                                                                                                                                                                                  • Mr. Blue
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                                                                                                                                                                                    • Jan 2005
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                                                                                                                                                                                    #195
                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by directfiesta
                                                                                                                                                                                    It is more complicated than that :



                                                                                                                                                                                    Now, this is not my opinion, or me repeating what Al-Jezeera prints and so on ...

                                                                                                                                                                                    So, why would Lebanon have to go in a civil war ( as it did 20 years ago or so ) ....
                                                                                                                                                                                    See, this is where the UN should have helped Lebanon in gaining control of it's borders, of it's military, etc. The Lebanese military probably couldn't have disarmed Hezbollah by itself, but they could have with the UN help. Lebanon could easily move towards a peace treaty with Israel and it would benefit them enormously.

                                                                                                                                                                                    Hezbollah is a distraction to that peace, they're supported by Iran and Syria, and what does Iran/Syria care about Lebanon? They don't, they want to see Israel destroyed so of course they're not thinking of what's best for the Lebanese, they're thinking of how to wage war against Israel without getting their names attached to it.

                                                                                                                                                                                    Lebanon is unfortunately a pawn to foreign powers. That's why the UN should have sent peacekeepers and kept them there until Lebanon could establish its military and government.
                                                                                                                                                                                    See Sig...oh wait.

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                                                                                                                                                                                      • SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                                                                                                                        ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                                                                                                                                                        • Jun 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                        • 28609
                                                                                                                                                                                        #196
                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by alexg
                                                                                                                                                                                        oh?

                                                                                                                                                                                        what about the israeli children who died, got wounded, or got psychologically traumatized for the rest of their lives because of hezbollah rockets?
                                                                                                                                                                                        perhaps you have trouble reading .. try reading the rest of that quote..

                                                                                                                                                                                        i feel bad for any civilians killed/traumatized or wounded , what you quoted was an EXAMPLE , i was pointing out how idiotic it sounds blaming kids for not "evacuating" the warzone.. if you feel lebanese civlians are legit targets because they didnt "evacuate" you must also feel the same way about israeli civilians killed.

                                                                                                                                                                                        its easy to read the lasp post and take it out of context , it takesd a real man to read and respond accordingly, if you had you would have realised you took what i said completely out of context
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                                                                                                                                                                                          • DOX
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                                                                                                                                                                                            • Dec 2002
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                                                                                                                                                                                            #197
                                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by tahiti
                                                                                                                                                                                            what u say is more than ugly, it's not time to know who started anymore when kids are kids. Leban has more victims, Israel is OVERexagerating the responce.

                                                                                                                                                                                            25 kids killed today how come can you dare "Blame Hezbollah. They started this violence"?

                                                                                                                                                                                            Current Figures:
                                                                                                                                                                                            Israel: 51
                                                                                                                                                                                            UN: 4
                                                                                                                                                                                            Canada: 8
                                                                                                                                                                                            Lebanon: 600


                                                                                                                                                                                            IDF can not effectively fight and at the same time care for BOTH sides Israeli & Lebanese civilians when its enemy using their their own arab citizens as live shield to fire rockets on IDF. Hezbollah does not care neither for Israelis nor Lebanese civilians.

                                                                                                                                                                                            Died lebanese child is a Victory for Hezbollah as a died israeli since they know very well about global news media and they are using it their way. These are their tactics and it's productive.

                                                                                                                                                                                            IDF is an Army to defend its citizens and it's not Police forces to care for everyone around. They are not ballerinas, it's professional Army and it can not put in high risk its soldiers.

                                                                                                                                                                                            IDF trying to do its best to avoid children's deaths, informing civilians and asking ppl to leave hours before bombing and that what IDF did last time. Hezbollah does not care about it, they put patrols and does not allow to their civilian ppl to leave the place.

                                                                                                                                                                                            IDF not interested in civilians deaths bc of the world's pressure to it. Simply understood and its deeply sorry for that mistake.

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                                                                                                                                                                                              • 12clicks
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                                                                                                                                                                                                • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                                • 19814
                                                                                                                                                                                                #198
                                                                                                                                                                                                dear anti-semites,
                                                                                                                                                                                                when arab scum declare war on israel, only israel shall determine what is best for israel. If they decide to keep conquered territory to protect itself, the muslim loving UN has no say in the matter.
                                                                                                                                                                                                If the UN had come to Israel's defense when they were attacked by the muslim scum, the UN might now matter.
                                                                                                                                                                                                As it is, Israel will do what it sees fit and with US backing, the rest of the world really doesn't matter.
                                                                                                                                                                                                now go stomp you feet. hahahahaha
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • NoComments
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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Jan 2005
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • 4957
                                                                                                                                                                                                    #199
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                                                                                                                                    sad sad sad..

                                                                                                                                                                                                    say no to war , say no to baby killing.
                                                                                                                                                                                                    I don't recall you protesting and expressing your sorrows when suicide bomber killed 46 teenages in Israeli discoteque.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Are you playing hypocrite or just uninformed?
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                                                                                                                                                                                                        #200
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                                                                                                                                                        dear anti-semites,
                                                                                                                                                                                                        when arab scum declare war on israel, only israel shall determine what is best for israel. If they decide to keep conquered territory to protect itself, the muslim loving UN has no say in the matter.
                                                                                                                                                                                                        If the UN had come to Israel's defense when they were attacked by the muslim scum, the UN might now matter.
                                                                                                                                                                                                        As it is, Israel will do what it sees fit and with US backing, the rest of the world really doesn't matter.
                                                                                                                                                                                                        now go stomp you feet. hahahahaha
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Ron,
                                                                                                                                                                                                        there is something gotta be wrong with the pussies all those morons have come from.

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