To Clarify difference between Model Release and 2257 information.

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  • amacontent
    STANLEY CUP CHAMPION !
    • Feb 2003
    • 13034

    #1

    To Clarify difference between Model Release and 2257 information.

    When inspections are done 2 things are going to be looked for as the law states now and as Ive been told by LArry Walters.

    1 - GOVERNMENT ISSUED IDs
    2- 2257 information.

    The law requires to show both. No where does it show that you need to show model release, We have a seperate form for all required 2257 info that has all government required criteria and date of production on it. We then have seperate forms which is the model release which the model gives all the legal righst to us.

    We DO NOT have to give out model releases to people buying content. We will give out non blocked IDs..even tho the law requires 1 form of government acceptable id on file.. and will giove out 2257 information form.

    In my opinion people asking for releases dont know the law or are intending to rip you off and resell your content as SOBE did to me years ago.

    So if you are looking to buy content from us, we will not give out model release but will giive out 2257 docs and ids.
    Joe Loughlin
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  • DEA - banned for life
    V.I.P.
    • Nov 2004
    • 7886

    #2
    another 2257 thread ....ho hum

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    • amacontent
      STANLEY CUP CHAMPION !
      • Feb 2003
      • 13034

      #3
      Originally posted by DEA
      another 2257 thread ....ho hum

      i know its a pain in the ass.. but i just lost a sale and wasted time pulling sets as some people think 2257 docs means model releases and it does not.

      2257 is extremely specific as to what is to be supplied and has NOTHING to do with a model release.

      2257 is PROOF OF AGE not RIGHT TO SELL or USE which model release is.
      Joe Loughlin
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      • CaptainHowdy
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Dec 2004
        • 94137

        #4
        Outstanding info, Thanks!

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        • DutchTeenCash
          I like Dutch Girls
          • Feb 2003
          • 21684

          #5
          most content providers supply 2257 IDs and model releases if you order exclusives and blanked out if non, I dont see the point in witholding them

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          • Tom_PM
            Porn Meister
            • Feb 2005
            • 16443

            #6
            The main thing is non-blacked out government issued ID's cross referenced to the images.
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            • amacontent
              STANLEY CUP CHAMPION !
              • Feb 2003
              • 13034

              #7
              shall create and maintain individually identifiable records pertaining to every performer portrayed in such a visual depiction.

              (b) Any person to whom subsection (a) applies shall, with respect to every performer portrayed in a visual depiction of actual sexually explicit conduct?

              (1) ascertain, by examination of an identification document containing such information, the performer?s name and date of birth, and require the performer to provide such other indicia of his or her identity as may be prescribed by regulations;

              (2) ascertain any name, other than the performer?s present and correct name, ever used by the performer including maiden name, alias, nickname, stage, or professional name; and

              (3) record in the records required by subsection (a) the information required by paragraphs (1) and (2) of this subsection and such other identifying information as may be prescribed by regulation.

              if you look at par (1) - it says IDENTIFICATION DOCUMENT..not documents which means 1 ID. and in detail it gives list of acceptable primary documents

              State Issue identification card or drivers license
              US Passport
              Military ID card
              Joe Loughlin
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              • fubar00
                Registered User
                • Jan 2004
                • 61

                #8
                Originally posted by amacontent
                i know its a pain in the ass.. but i just lost a sale and wasted time pulling sets as some people think 2257 docs means model releases and it does not.

                2257 is extremely specific as to what is to be supplied and has NOTHING to do with a model release.

                2257 is PROOF OF AGE not RIGHT TO SELL or USE which model release is.

                That sucks. your are corrrect.
                That said, Before last July when a model walked for a shoot common pratice was to simply scan her id. Perhaps take a picture of her holding said id's. and have her fill out a release. Most production companies were not forward thinking enough to have the model fill out a separate signed legal form listing what is now required by 2257. It wasn't an issue back then.

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                • amacontent
                  STANLEY CUP CHAMPION !
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 13034

                  #9
                  Originally posted by thinkx
                  most content providers supply 2257 IDs and model releases if you order exclusives and blanked out if non, I dont see the point in witholding them

                  Correct when we sell EXCLUSIVE we give 2257 doc, model releases, and IDs

                  when we sell non exclusive we give out 2257 doc and ID, non blacked out
                  Joe Loughlin
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                  • DatingGold
                    $6 PER EMAIL JOiN
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 13185

                    #10
                    I still need your personal government issued ID since you are in the content. please email it to me bro!
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                    • DutchTeenCash
                      I like Dutch Girls
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 21684

                      #11
                      Originally posted by amacontent
                      Correct when we sell EXCLUSIVE we give 2257 doc, model releases, and IDs

                      when we sell non exclusive we give out 2257 doc and ID, non blacked out
                      thats perfect

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                      • amacontent
                        STANLEY CUP CHAMPION !
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 13034

                        #12
                        Originally posted by fubar00
                        That sucks. your are corrrect.
                        That said, Before last July when a model walked for a shoot common pratice was to simply scan her id. Perhaps take a picture of her holding said id's. and have her fill out a release. Most production companies were not forward thinking enough to have the model fill out a separate signed legal form listing what is now required by 2257. It wasn't an issue back then.
                        yes , im glad i wasnt far in the biz before I met Larry Walters and since then ive had a seperate model release and 2257 because as provider i will not give out releases unless its exclusive
                        Joe Loughlin
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                        • amacontent
                          STANLEY CUP CHAMPION !
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 13034

                          #13
                          Originally posted by DatingGold
                          I still need your personal government issued ID since you are in the content. please email it to me bro!
                          i just sent it on ICQ
                          Joe Loughlin
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                          • fitzmulti
                            I Like Depth Of Field!
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 14861

                            #14
                            Originally posted by DEA
                            another 2257 thread ....ho hum
                            Uhm, this isn't a "2257" post, it is a "you don't need or get the model release" post - and I totally agree with Joe. I had a similar event happen, where the dude bought some content as website members area filler - and then all of a sudden, he's reselling it - making DVD's out of it - and had it up on AEBN & HOTMOVIES, etc...Fuck that!

                            The model releases aren't involved at all with 2257, etc...

                            Good post, Joe

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                            • tony299
                              lurker
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 57021

                              #15
                              the man is correct most dont know that

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                              • MandyBlake
                                The one and only!
                                • Nov 2002
                                • 17761

                                #16
                                that's right. a lot of people think the two are related but really they're not.
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                                • MandyBlake
                                  The one and only!
                                  • Nov 2002
                                  • 17761

                                  #17
                                  that's right. a lot of people think the two are related but really they're not.
                                  Mandy's Playhouse
                                  Her First Fat Girl
                                  If you're interested in promoting my sites, ICQ me! 178411921

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                                  • amacontent
                                    STANLEY CUP CHAMPION !
                                    • Feb 2003
                                    • 13034

                                    #18
                                    As long as the 2257 criteria is covered and the date of production is on the same sheet, youre covered. Check with your attorney for the correct criteria or hit me up and ill show you.
                                    Joe Loughlin
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                                    • Webby
                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                      • Oct 2002
                                      • 14956

                                      #19
                                      Shooter Biz 101

                                      Can see why you may be better stating the obvious here amacontent
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