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  • testpie
    Mostly retired
    • Apr 2006
    • 3231
    #51
    What started off as a "post decent hosts thread" has turned into a "my datacenter cock is bigger than yours" thread.

    Yes, you get what you pay for, and yes (before you take pains to point it out) my signature does advocate DreamHost - what's your problem with that? If you really are "tired of trying to compete with el-cheapo hosts", then what is your beef?

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      • SplitInfinity
        Confirmed User
        • Dec 2002
        • 3047
        #52
        Beef Stew, UMMMMM (Benchwarmers) hhehehehe

        testpie... no beef, just tired of the garage based hosts bsing customers.
        :-)

        We have L3, Sprint and Cogent Direct, the others are aggreagted via DBO and ADNC

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          • SplitInfinity
            Confirmed User
            • Dec 2002
            • 3047
            #53
            Still only 1 other host stepped up? :-)

            Anyways....

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              • Sparks
                Confirmed User
                • Nov 2004
                • 2466
                #54
                Small hosts left aside, your fucking billing department has been calling me for a month straight now about $600 I owe them. No matter HOW many times I tell them you refunded me because the server was setup wrong they are still calling me back.

                Hasn't happened to me at any of the "small time hosts." I've never heard any of the "small time hosts" sellout any of their resellers just to try to gain business.

                No hard feelings, I just don't have any tolerance for arrogance.

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                  • Ycaza
                    Confirmed User
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 4290
                    #55
                    Originally posted by SplitInfinity
                    Still only 1 other host stepped up? :-)

                    Anyways....
                    we have 3 but here is one. and hey chris whats up?

                    OrgName: OC3 Networks & Web Solutions, LLC
                    OrgID: ONWSL
                    Address: 530 West 6th Street
                    Address: Suite 504
                    City: Los Angeles
                    StateProv: CA
                    PostalCode: 90014
                    Country: US

                    ASNumber: 29761
                    ASName: OC3-NETWORKS-AS-NUMBER
                    ASHandle: AS29761

                    Oh yeah we have two of our own data centers too.
                    Caz Thrush
                    Head Honcho
                    [email protected]
                    http://thrushtech.com
                    ICQ: 304883574
                    do people still icq?

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                      • SplitInfinity
                        Confirmed User
                        • Dec 2002
                        • 3047
                        #56
                        Funny how you post that flying the sig of another host.
                        Selling out resellers? Bah. I would respond differently had you posted as an individual :-)

                        If they are bugging you about 600.00 you owe, then you should talk to them.
                        Dont you think if you said to them "I was refunded because...."
                        they would find out from you who authorized the refund and etc?
                        And how was your server setup wrong eh?

                        If you were refunded, hit me up in ICQ and I will investigate that with you.
                        Being that I dont know who you are from your handle, I cant tell much from here. Regardless, you can always open a ticket at [email protected] or speak with our online people to take care of this.

                        Ill take care of you if its legit. If not, then I cant do much.

                        Peace out.

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                          • SplitInfinity
                            Confirmed User
                            • Dec 2002
                            • 3047
                            #57
                            Ycaza - Nice! Glad to see you step into the thread.

                            This thread is like opening a can of worms, but what the heck, my intentions are good and all I care about is providing good customer service and networking.

                            In the end, sure, everyone can poke at me for starting this thread, but hell, any negative remarks simply help me teach my staff better things to do with situations. All companies have situations. We havent had any that would hurt us any more than any other hosting company.

                            So for your comments above everyone, appreciated even if I bitch back. :-)
                            This is GFY after all.

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                              • Ycaza
                                Confirmed User
                                • Feb 2005
                                • 4290
                                #58
                                no worries brother, i never thought the thread was meant for me, i just figured I would lend you a little extra legitimacy. A lot of non entity hosts postin here, no ip's, no AS, no real bandwidth, but most of the time the people who choose them get what they pay for and come back thinking they won't go that route again.
                                Caz Thrush
                                Head Honcho
                                [email protected]
                                http://thrushtech.com
                                ICQ: 304883574
                                do people still icq?

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                                  • fris
                                    I have to go potty
                                    • Aug 2002
                                    • 55795
                                    #59
                                    the place i am hosted at hosts many affil programs and still i only pay 250$ a month for 20mbps, but then again i manage my own box
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                                      • XSV
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Sep 2001
                                        • 1214
                                        #60
                                        Originally posted by SplitInfinity
                                        Still only 1 other host stepped up? :-)

                                        Anyways....

                                        Feel free to look it up at ARIN... been paying for them for several years.

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                                          • SplitInfinity
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Dec 2002
                                            • 3047
                                            #61
                                            "Which Data Center in San Diego is it that you own again?"

                                            Otay Mesa, where I sit right now, on the border.

                                            66.11.112.131 trace me. :-)

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                                              • SplitInfinity
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Dec 2002
                                                • 3047
                                                #62
                                                Fell free to look it up at ARIN... been paying for them for several years.

                                                Org ID PHATS or A1COL


                                                Never said you didnt have them bro. Im referring to the small cats.

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                                                  • Lace
                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                    • Mar 2004
                                                    • 16116
                                                    #63
                                                    Originally posted by AliGbone
                                                    i iz no ignoramus but whats you mean? downs is downs if it could happens to dem it could happens to me geeza! when it comes to me bankroll playa anythin not 100 percentiles and im out!

                                                    Ill trys you when you gots directs to some propa carriers Level3,gblx,mci,att,teleglobe,telia,savvis or any other tier1 network. till den im stickin wit what i gots.
                                                    Jesus christ, learn to speak english....And if you're trying to pull off an Ali G persona, he sucks flat out.
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                                                      • Sebastian Sands
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Mar 2005
                                                        • 5223
                                                        #64
                                                        I am with a few smaller hosts but my main stuff runs with CaveCreek and their support is superb, Maybe a bit expensive. But they really have their shit together unlike others I have tried.

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                                                          • Madcatz
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Jun 2006
                                                            • 204
                                                            #65
                                                            why the fuck should a host step up to your fucking little call out game. you guys suck cock, you overcharge your customers and fuck them over. you aint shit and no respectable hosting company would ever do a public post as childish as this one. as for you calling out the "little guys". who the fuck cares if these little guys cant afford thier own AS yet.... you were small once too, dickhead.

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                                                              • babsy
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Mar 2006
                                                                • 282
                                                                #66
                                                                I just announce ASN 0 and drop any packets outside my address range. That's the way REAL gangsters BGP.

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                                                                  • Kimo
                                                                    ...
                                                                    • Jan 2006
                                                                    • 11542
                                                                    #67
                                                                    what the hell is an asn
                                                                    ...

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                                                                      • split_joel
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Jan 2005
                                                                        • 2270
                                                                        #68
                                                                        Those pictures bring back scary memorys... I hate heights there lame, i almost pissed my pants. Chris has it on video to, he always has me at my worst LOL. nice post chris
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                                                                          • gooddomains
                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                            • Jul 2003
                                                                            • 10127
                                                                            #69
                                                                            Originally posted by SplitInfinity
                                                                            You want something to poke fun at AliG? :-) heheheh

                                                                            Here is our security guard for one of the mexican towers...



                                                                            LoL

                                                                            The top of the hills are rat infested there, kinda gross.
                                                                            We had to hire a company to kill them all and seal the soil around the concrete bunker so they cannot dig in again.

                                                                            so cute little rat

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                                                                              • Kimo
                                                                                ...
                                                                                • Jan 2006
                                                                                • 11542
                                                                                #70
                                                                                i still dont know what an asn is
                                                                                ...

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                                                                                  • 3M TA3
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Aug 2005
                                                                                    • 2972
                                                                                    #71
                                                                                    Originally posted by Kimo
                                                                                    i still dont know what an asn is
                                                                                    I thought it was quite clear.

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                                                                                      • darksoul
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Apr 2002
                                                                                        • 4997
                                                                                        #72
                                                                                        my asn is 31337
                                                                                        1337 5y54|)m1n: 157717888
                                                                                        BM-2cUBw4B2fgiYAfjkE7JvWaJMiUXD96n9tN
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                                                                                          • milan
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • May 2005
                                                                                            • 800
                                                                                            #73
                                                                                            Chris to support Ycazza here is one more ASN for this great Thread.

                                                                                            ASN22298

                                                                                            Look it up!

                                                                                            maybe in a few hours I will bump this thread with our 3rd ASN...
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                                                                                              • SinisterStudios
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Nov 2003
                                                                                                • 3087
                                                                                                #74
                                                                                                One of our ASN is 33066 , and i agree and disagree with alot in this thread. Owning and running your own DC is overrated, too many headaches, too expensive, too much to go wrong. Im much happier buying a few cages at Equinix and letting them deal with the chillers, generators, security, power conditioning, etc.. Maybe if you are a huge player in the business, it makes financial sense to have your own DC.

                                                                                                I agree with split and ycaza, there are alot of fly by night guys who have no idea what they are talking about. I remember some guys saying they just bought cisco 3750's and were going to do bgp on them.
                                                                                                Things like that make you go .

                                                                                                Real business people know that hosting costs $$$, your not going to run a paysite or equivalent on one of these cheap hosts. Thats why there is the Techie Media's, NatNets, Splits, Clickman's, etc.. out there when low pingtimes and uptime count more than price. Latency costs $$$ people, and so does downtime. And they usually cost alot more than you saved on that bargin hosts deal.

                                                                                                Sorry for the rant but i agree with Split, these el cheapo hosts do kill the business, all to make a quick buck.
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                                                                                                  • Jimmy The Juggernaut
                                                                                                    Spam me with dialer programs
                                                                                                    • Nov 2005
                                                                                                    • 177
                                                                                                    #75
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                                                                                                      • Manowar
                                                                                                        jellyfish  
                                                                                                        • Dec 2003
                                                                                                        • 71528
                                                                                                        #76
                                                                                                        Originally posted by SplitInfinity
                                                                                                        You want something to poke fun at AliG? :-) heheheh

                                                                                                        Here is our security guard for one of the mexican towers...



                                                                                                        LoL

                                                                                                        The top of the hills are rat infested there, kinda gross.
                                                                                                        We had to hire a company to kill them all and seal the soil around the concrete bunker so they cannot dig in again.

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                                                                                                          • Herb Kornfield
                                                                                                            Is on the 1
                                                                                                            • Sep 2002
                                                                                                            • 4996
                                                                                                            #77
                                                                                                            www.fixedorbit.com - Just place your hosts name into there and you can see their upstream bandwidth providers, their ASN and how many peers their upstreams really have.

                                                                                                            Personally, I prefer having my gear in a carrier neutral facility so I can get whatever upstreams I want.

                                                                                                            For instance, I have 2 racks at 1 wilshire in the Meet me room in LA. All connecting into Tier1 ISP's that are out there ... something on the order of 10connections currently..... No I am not a host, just a guy that has mission critical apps that my customers use 24-7................

                                                                                                            As far as hosting - To me it comes down to support since you are depending on the host for your connection as a middleman to the net.

                                                                                                            Get your own racks, power and IP's. The IPs are free mostly and support your own boxes if you want to truly ball.

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                                                                                                              • nico-t
                                                                                                                emperor of my world
                                                                                                                • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                • 29901
                                                                                                                #78
                                                                                                                huge split infinity ad here

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                                                                                                                  • Juicy D. Links
                                                                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                    • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                    • 122992
                                                                                                                    #79
                                                                                                                    Asnjdl6969696

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                                                                                                                      • Marshal
                                                                                                                        Biz Dev and SEO
                                                                                                                        • Jun 2005
                                                                                                                        • 15226
                                                                                                                        #80
                                                                                                                        i've been changing hosting companies for a while, and must admit that splitinfinity has the best support out there... flamers, look at the sig...
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                                                                                                                          • Spudstr
                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                            • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                            • 2321
                                                                                                                            #81
                                                                                                                            AS40015

                                                                                                                            here yeahhh babyyyyyyyy

                                                                                                                            i wont show up on lookingglass since ijust started broadcasting my /20 a few days ago.

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                                                                                                                              • HizAzPhun
                                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                • Jun 2004
                                                                                                                                • 470
                                                                                                                                #82
                                                                                                                                Originally posted by Ycaza
                                                                                                                                we have 3 but here is one. and hey chris whats up?

                                                                                                                                OrgName: OC3 Networks & Web Solutions, LLC
                                                                                                                                OrgID: ONWSL
                                                                                                                                Address: 530 West 6th Street
                                                                                                                                Address: Suite 504
                                                                                                                                City: Los Angeles
                                                                                                                                StateProv: CA
                                                                                                                                PostalCode: 90014
                                                                                                                                Country: US

                                                                                                                                ASNumber: 29761
                                                                                                                                ASName: OC3-NETWORKS-AS-NUMBER
                                                                                                                                ASHandle: AS29761

                                                                                                                                Oh yeah we have two of our own data centers too.

                                                                                                                                nice caz... oc3 is the network of choice for our server farm!

                                                                                                                                see sig.

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                                                                                                                                  • mrkris
                                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                    • May 2005
                                                                                                                                    • 2737
                                                                                                                                    #83
                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by AliGbone
                                                                                                                                    wells yous goin to need to enlighten us then geeza. thats all i sees when i do da harsh lookup. who else do you have DIRECT bgp connections to, and why dont we see dem in your braggage spew?

                                                                                                                                    And dat adnc is tier 1 or 2 ? dey dont seem that biggy to me...more like biggy smalls type a thinkin?

                                                                                                                                    alls i sees is only 2 connections to non-tier1 / tier2 companies, you were best off when yous were using da cogent bandwidth back in the days is da way im thinkin
                                                                                                                                    Normally I am not like this, but welcome to the internet, learn to speak some fucking english.

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                                                                                                                                      • tony299
                                                                                                                                        lurker
                                                                                                                                        • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                                        • 57021
                                                                                                                                        #84
                                                                                                                                        im a big fan of webair

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                                                                                                                                          • R.Benoit
                                                                                                                                            Registered User
                                                                                                                                            • Jul 2006
                                                                                                                                            • 34
                                                                                                                                            #85
                                                                                                                                            I'm thinking about setting up... What are the main issues people are having with BS webhosting services? Besides owners/resellers who can't get things right with their customer service?

                                                                                                                                            Besides calling people out... what is the function of this post?

                                                                                                                                            Thanks for your time everyone,

                                                                                                                                            Webmaster
                                                                                                                                            R. Benoit

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                                                                                                                                              • R.Benoit
                                                                                                                                                Registered User
                                                                                                                                                • Jul 2006
                                                                                                                                                • 34
                                                                                                                                                #86
                                                                                                                                                I'm thinking about setting up... What are the main issues people are having with BS webhosting services? Besides owners/resellers who can't get things right with their customer service?

                                                                                                                                                Besides calling people out... what is the function of this post?

                                                                                                                                                Thanks for your time everyone,

                                                                                                                                                Webmaster
                                                                                                                                                R. Benoit

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                                                                                                                                                  • Kre8t0r
                                                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                    • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                                                    • 1304
                                                                                                                                                    #87
                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by SplitInfinity
                                                                                                                                                    Ycaza - Nice! Glad to see you step into the thread.

                                                                                                                                                    This thread is like opening a can of worms, but what the heck, my intentions are good and all I care about is providing good customer service and networking.

                                                                                                                                                    In the end, sure, everyone can poke at me for starting this thread, but hell, any negative remarks simply help me teach my staff better things to do with situations. All companies have situations. We havent had any that would hurt us any more than any other hosting company.

                                                                                                                                                    So for your comments above everyone, appreciated even if I bitch back. :-)
                                                                                                                                                    This is GFY after all.
                                                                                                                                                    Fuck what anyone else says about this thread. Thread of the month award material for sure Chris!


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                                                                                                                                                      • BruceM
                                                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                        • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                                        • 4084
                                                                                                                                                        #88
                                                                                                                                                        Fuck I came into this thread hoping to see some AZN pics.
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                                                                                                                                                          • SplitInfinity
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                                                                                                                                                            • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                                                            • 3047
                                                                                                                                                            #89
                                                                                                                                                            Spudstr - Congrats on your ARIN assignment! Clap! Clap! Hard to beat he beaurocracies. (spelled right? lol) To succeed is to win for real with ARIN.

                                                                                                                                                            Kre8t0r - Thread of the month, radical! Im happy now. I needed one of those in my GFY life-time. :-) I am happy some hosts posted their ASN's. Those who didnt want to respond to the "call-out" well... there is no reason they shouldnt post their ASN's if they have them. Hell, there was a time even I didnt have my own... maturity kicked in though. :-)

                                                                                                                                                            New key? Old farts have ASN's? lol

                                                                                                                                                            The purpose of this post R.Benoit is that web hosting companies should
                                                                                                                                                            really BE multi-homed if they claim to be and if they REALLY are multi-homed, then they should show that by publicly showing thier ASN.
                                                                                                                                                            I see alot of banner ads claming multi-homed however most are not "themselves" multi-homed and carrier neutral. Being carrier neutral is very important and provides mobility of ip space should one tier one go Enron on you.

                                                                                                                                                            Scenario....

                                                                                                                                                            Host A does not own his own IP's OR has IP's that are lent to him by a carrier, but are not routed with his own BGP. Should the provider he borrowed his ip's from drop off the face of the earth, EVERY SINGLE customer of his has to move to new ip's change DNS, reprogram systems dependant on IP's and etc. A very costly risk. Ask me, I have been through that before!!!

                                                                                                                                                            Now, on the contrary, host B owns his own IP's, Runs his own BGP sessions with multiple providers, has his own entries in RADb routing arbriter databases and generally does things the right way. Should one of his pipes
                                                                                                                                                            go Enron on him (die/bankrupt/otherwise dead) then he has NO downtime.
                                                                                                                                                            No one has to move DNS, renumber or otherwise have downtime.
                                                                                                                                                            In this scenario.... even if a car crashed into the meet me room in his colo or self owned datacenter... all he needs to do is pick up the servers, move them to another physical location without the crashed car of course, and turn the servers back on.. All that has to be done on Host B's part is to assure the ip netrange is announced on the internet at the new location...

                                                                                                                                                            Portability, thats the key to this thread. Amen.

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                                                                                                                                                              • split_joel
                                                                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                • Jan 2005
                                                                                                                                                                • 2270
                                                                                                                                                                #90
                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by SplitInfinity
                                                                                                                                                                Host A does not own his own IP's OR has IP's that are lent to him by a carrier, but are not routed with his own BGP. Should the provider he borrowed his ip's from drop off the face of the earth, EVERY SINGLE customer of his has to move to new ip's change DNS, reprogram systems dependant on IP's and etc. A very costly risk. Ask me, I have been through that before!!!

                                                                                                                                                                Now, on the contrary, host B owns his own IP's, Runs his own BGP sessions with multiple providers, has his own entries in RADb routing arbriter databases and generally does things the right way. Should one of his pipes
                                                                                                                                                                go Enron on him (die/bankrupt/otherwise dead) then he has NO downtime.
                                                                                                                                                                No one has to move DNS, renumber or otherwise have downtime.
                                                                                                                                                                In this scenario.... even if a car crashed into the meet me room in his colo or self owned datacenter... all he needs to do is pick up the servers, move them to another physical location without the crashed car of course, and turn the servers back on.. All that has to be done on Host B's part is to assure the ip netrange is announced on the internet at the new location...

                                                                                                                                                                Portability, thats the key to this thread. Amen.
                                                                                                                                                                Fucking classic, thats great. LOL who else will step up.
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                                                                                                                                                                  • Sparks
                                                                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                    • Nov 2004
                                                                                                                                                                    • 2466
                                                                                                                                                                    #91
                                                                                                                                                                    If you are such a great host and are making such great money why are you wasting your time with a thread like this? You sound a little threatened to me...

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                                                                                                                                                                      • SplitInfinity
                                                                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                        • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                                                                        • 3047
                                                                                                                                                                        #92
                                                                                                                                                                        Nah, not threatened.... its not about the "threat", its about the integrity.
                                                                                                                                                                        In my heart, I believe this has educated some people who would not have known about this. Call it business insurance to go with a host that is
                                                                                                                                                                        carrier neutral. I posted this after I had a long discussion with a customer
                                                                                                                                                                        who was being constantly bombarded with "we can do better" offers that were nothing more than complete B.S. from the person selling these so called better services. Rather than beat around the bush, I chose to *show* the customer precisely the difference in our network topologies and, well
                                                                                                                                                                        the proof is in the pudding. I wanted to share this because my customer said it was the most enlightining conversation he has had in recent times with any host. I felt at that point, it was important to address, regardless of the bs people would post here about it, me and otherwise. In the end, now you know, if you already did, well good for you, this post was for those who didnt. :-)

                                                                                                                                                                        Much Love,

                                                                                                                                                                        Me.

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                                                                                                                                                                          • justsexxx
                                                                                                                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                            • Aug 2001
                                                                                                                                                                            • 13723
                                                                                                                                                                            #93
                                                                                                                                                                            edit: never mind
                                                                                                                                                                            Questions?

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                                                                                                                                                                              • CIVMatt
                                                                                                                                                                                Amateur Pimpin
                                                                                                                                                                                • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                • 13075
                                                                                                                                                                                #94
                                                                                                                                                                                Whats an ASN
                                                                                                                                                                                Make easy money with Webcams

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                                                                                                                                                                                  • HorseShit
                                                                                                                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                    • Dec 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                    • 17513
                                                                                                                                                                                    #95
                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by SinisterStudios

                                                                                                                                                                                    I agree with split and ycaza, there are alot of fly by night guys who have no idea what they are talking about. I remember some guys saying they just bought cisco 3750's and were going to do bgp on them.
                                                                                                                                                                                    Things like that make you go .
                                                                                                                                                                                    I know what company that is

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                                                                                                                                                                                      • MasteR EvE
                                                                                                                                                                                        Registered User
                                                                                                                                                                                        • May 2006
                                                                                                                                                                                        • 95
                                                                                                                                                                                        #96
                                                                                                                                                                                        i like this thread.... LOL

                                                                                                                                                                                        no comment...

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                                                                                                                                                                                          • bknoob
                                                                                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                            • Apr 2006
                                                                                                                                                                                            • 1610
                                                                                                                                                                                            #97
                                                                                                                                                                                            You need to chill man.
                                                                                                                                                                                            Just because you are a big player doesn't give you the right to call other hosts "shit." You have probably started out small and worked your way up to where you are today.

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                                                                                                                                                                                              • GrouchyAdmin
                                                                                                                                                                                                Now choke yourself!
                                                                                                                                                                                                • Apr 2006
                                                                                                                                                                                                • 12085
                                                                                                                                                                                                #98
                                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by SplitInfinity
                                                                                                                                                                                                I would love to see if they have a 6509 of their own for example, a 60k investment just for core switching.
                                                                                                                                                                                                Yeah, in 199x, again, when I was Concentric/XO. For a colo site with about 100 boxes and a few ISDNs.. oh how I hated the Pipes. ASN2828. 6509 isn't as impressive as it used to be. It's a big underpowered, overvolted fridge. Might as well be a fucking VAX. Who cares? Stop trying to impress the idiots with shit virtually anyone who's at a colo has managed for them.

                                                                                                                                                                                                Disclaimer: No, I don't believe Tear2 handles their own routing, they "outsource" that. It's much cheaper than having staff on call. I know, I used to be one. Then again, I'm just a single host wonder right now, what the fuck do I care that you manage your own copy of IOS. Woop-de-doodle fuck. Stop with the 'ignorance is more' advertising.. Fuck, that's twice in two days.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • bknoob
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Apr 2006
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • 1610
                                                                                                                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by toonpornblog
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Yeah, in 199x, again, when I was Concentric/XO. For a colo site with about 100 boxes and a few ISDNs.. oh how I hated the Pipes. ASN2828. 6509 isn't as impressive as it used to be. It's a big underpowered, overvolted fridge. Might as well be a fucking VAX. Who cares? Stop trying to impress the idiots with shit virtually anyone who's at a colo has managed for them.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Disclaimer: No, I don't believe Tear2 handles their own routing, they "outsource" that. It's much cheaper than having staff on call. I know, I used to be one. Then again, I'm just a single host wonder right now, what the fuck do I care that you manage your own copy of IOS. Woop-de-doodle fuck. Stop with the 'ignorance is more' advertising.. Fuck, that's twice in two days.
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Couldn't have said it any better

                                                                                                                                                                                                    By the way, you ran concentric? Concentric was my isp back in the days! I also used to use the EFnet irc server quite frequently

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Good times...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • jeffrey
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • Jul 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • 1864
                                                                                                                                                                                                        #100
                                                                                                                                                                                                        I am with colo-cation.com not sure on there asn number, but they have been great for me.
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