Any host worth a shit, post your ASN.

What's your A/S/L?

36/M/San Diego

U?

27/M/Helsinki, Finland.
*roar*
This thread is getting hot.

18/f/nyc

But back to the topic, I'm sure most people who have any understanding of business will rather pay a bit extra and go with the good guys, than save a few bucks and worry 24/7.

It's the same thing with designers, you can either pay $1500 for a good design, or $300 for a bad one... a lot of people go for the $300 one, until they realize it's pure shit and cough up the money.

I'm sure there's not much you really need to worry about. Venting's good though.

change hands gain a stroke
2/1

Suavemente, INC. ??

i dont even know what an ASN is but .. i did a look up ?

what happend to the split.com deal?

Suavemente, INC. is the parent company of SplitInfinity. ( http://www.suavemente.net ) (I own Suavemente, INC.)

Split.com was bought back. The domain proved to be more valuable to someone else and Cameron made me an offer I couldnt refuse. :-)
That dude is pretty heavy, lots of cash they pay for domains. Insane how
well he does with them. He has perfected the art.
:-)

"But back to the topic, I'm sure most people who have any understanding of business will rather pay a bit extra and go with the good guys, than save a few bucks and worry 24/7."

The problem here is that those cheapo hosts actually convince the customers that they can provide the SAME type of service and connectivity and etc.
Which they cant. But the unknowing customer falls victim to it.

ASN is your Autonoumous System Number, which is something you have if you are multi-homed and use BGP. It is also something you have when you are on your own IP space. Having your own IP space is VERY important. It means you are truly carrier neutral.

I'll admit we still have some old legacy ips borrowed from providers in the past, however they only stay because the customers dont want to renumber.
Sorta their choice.

I just needed to point that out so that these small guys with no routers of their own and etc can be put in their place in the scale of things.

I would love to see if they have a 6509 of their own for example, a 60k investment just for core switching.

ASN is your Autonoumous System Number, which is something you have if you are multi-homed and use BGP. It is also something you have when you are on your own IP space. Having your own IP space is VERY important. It means you are truly carrier neutral.

I'll admit we still have some old legacy ips borrowed from providers in the past, however they only stay because the customers dont want to renumber.
Sorta their choice.

I just needed to point that out so that these small guys with no routers of their own and etc can be put in their place in the scale of things.

I would love to see if they have a 6509 of their own for example, a 60k investment just for core switching.

Oh, just so you know:
http://www.suavemente.net/management.shtml

LoL - Mainstream hehe

Even without that number. SplitInfinity has been in business since 1994. Thats 100 years for a non online business.

Needs some updating *cough Cough* lol

To 18/f/nyc from 36/M/San Diego - Wanna hook up? :-)

lol

Wow. Nobody else is stepping up to this post? I better get someone on this thread.

Yeah, odd eh?

Yeah, odd eh?

hey Split.. ICQ me.. I want to ask a hosting question.

Tried, your ICQ number 3431124 is not coming up as correct...???

Damn the double posts, sorry. GFY is sticking on me.

What is an Autonomous System?

An Autonomous System (AS) is a group of IP networks operated by one or more network operator/s which has a single and clearly defined external routing policy. Exterior routing protocols are used to exchange routing information between Autonomous Systems.

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When should an Autonomous System be created?

An AS needs to be created if a network connects to more than one AS with different routing policies. Some common examples of Autonomous Systems are networks connected to two or more upstream service providers or exchange points, networks peering locally at exchange points.

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What is an Autonomous System Number?

A public AS has a globally unique number, an Autonomous System number (ASN), associated with it; this number is used in both the exchange of exterior routing information (between neighboring Autonomous Systems), and as an identifier of the AS itself.

There are two types of Autonomous System numbers; Public AS numbers and Private AS numbers.

More information regarding AS numbers is detailed in RFC1930.

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When is a Public Autonomous System number required?

A Public AS number is required only when an AS is exchanging routing information with other Autonomous Systems on the public Internet. That is, all routes originating from an AS is visible on the Internet.

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Am I eligible for a Public Autonomous System Number?

An organisation is eligible for an ASN assignment if it:

* is multihomed (this includes organisations connected to a public Internet Exchange Point); and
* has a single, clearly defined routing policy that is different from its providers' routing policies.

An organisation will also be eligible if it can demonstrate that it will meet the above criteria upon receiving an ASN (or within a reasonably short time thereafter).

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When can I use a Private Autonomous System number?

A Private AS number should be used if an AS is only required to communicate via BGP with a single provider. As the routing policy between the AS and the provider will not be visible in the Internet, a Private AS Number can be used for this purpose.

The IANA has reserved AS64512 through to AS65535 to be used as private ASNs.

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I plan to change my upstream providers - can I take my ASN with me?

This depends on how you received that ASN. If you got it directly from APNIC or an NIR, then it is portable and you can take it with you to whichever providers you choose (subject to the agreement you signed with APNIC or the NIR).

However if got your ASN from an LIR, you can only use it while you continue to receive connectivity from the LIR. In other words, if you decide to no longer use that LIR as one of your upstream providers, then you will have to return the ASN. (Note, this condition only applies to ASNs assigned after 1 December 2002.)

Chris,

calm down buddy you ok? =) Breathe in breathe out...i know the "instant hosts" are annoying but usually it reflects in their performance at one point or another...

IMHO

Hey mike

ASN 13477 North Tone Systems, LLC http://www.northtone.com I own it.
We run under http://www.hosthead.com

LOL

Mike, ASN?

LOL

wasssssup sticky!

Looking Glass - show ip bgp 66.11.112.0

Router: U of Oregon Internet Exchange
Command: show ip bgp 66.11.112.0


BGP routing table entry for 66.11.112.0/20, version 61045116
Paths: (50 available, best #35, table Default-IP-Routing-Table)
Not advertised to any peer
2905 701 6130 14572
196.7.106.245 from 196.7.106.245 (196.7.106.245)
Origin IGP, metric 0, localpref 100, valid, external
11608 174 36025 14572
207.246.129.13 from 207.246.129.13 (207.246.129.15)
Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
Community: 11608:444 11608:801 11608:1008 11608:6601
1299 3356 6130 14572
213.248.83.252 from 213.248.83.252 (213.248.83.252)
Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
3277 3267 3343 2603 174 36025 14572
194.85.4.55 from 194.85.4.55 (194.85.4.55)
Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
Community: 3277:3267 3277:65321 3277:65323
8001 174 36025 14572
209.123.12.51 from 209.123.12.51 (209.123.12.51)
Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
Community: 8001:3000 (Private Peering: All Private Peers Standard Community) 8001:3002 (Private Peering: << Deprecated >> Standard Community) 8001:3021
2914 174 36025 14572
129.250.0.11 from 129.250.0.11 (129.250.0.88)
Origin IGP, metric 2, localpref 100, valid, external
Community: 2914:420 (Peer routes) 2914:2000 2914:3000
4513 174 36025 14572
195.66.224.82 from 195.66.224.82 (209.10.12.222)
Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
5459 174 36025 14572
195.66.232.239 from 195.66.232.239 (195.66.232.239)
Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
Community: 5459:3 5459:60
5650 701 6130 14572
74.40.7.36 from 74.40.7.36 (74.40.0.11)
Origin IGP, metric 0, localpref 100, valid, external
3292 174 36025 14572
195.215.109.252 from 195.215.109.252 (83.88.48.14)
Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
Community: 3292:1105 3292:1904
6939 6130 14572
216.218.252.145 from 216.218.252.145 (216.218.255.241)
Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
12956 174 36025 14572
213.140.32.146 from 213.140.32.146 (213.140.32.146)
Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
Community: 12956:18500 12956:28090 12956:28092
5650 174 36025 14572
74.40.7.35 from 74.40.7.35 (207.173.112.63)
Origin IGP, metric 0, localpref 100, valid, external
16150 174 36025 14572
217.75.96.60 from 217.75.96.60 (217.75.96.60)
Origin IGP, metric 0, localpref 100, valid, external
Community: 16150:63392 16150:65213 16150:65320
6395 3356 6130 14572
216.140.8.59 from 216.140.8.59 (216.140.8.59)
Origin IGP, metric 20, localpref 100, valid, external
Community: 6395:200
286 174 36025 14572
134.222.85.45 from 134.222.85.45 (134.222.85.45)
Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
Community: 286:18 (Don't announce to European in-country peer) 286:19 (Do not announce to European peer) 286:29 (Do not announce to US transit partners) 286:800 286:888 (European or US peer routes) 286:3044 (Route is received from United Kingdom / Jersey / Isle of Man / Guernsey) 286:4019
3333 3356 6130 14572
193.0.0.56 from 193.0.0.56 (193.0.0.56)
Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
7018 22773 6130 14572
12.0.1.63 from 12.0.1.63 (12.0.1.63)
Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
Community: 7018:2000
6539 22773 6130 14572
216.18.63.137 from 216.18.63.137 (216.18.63.137)
Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
2828 209 6130 14572
65.106.7.139 from 65.106.7.139 (66.239.189.139)
Origin IGP, metric 3, localpref 100, valid, external
1668 3356 6130 14572
66.185.128.48 from 66.185.128.48 (66.185.128.48)
Origin IGP, metric 504, localpref 100, valid, external
6461 3356 6130 14572
64.125.0.137 from 64.125.0.137 (64.125.0.137)
Origin IGP, metric 125, localpref 100, valid, external
Community: 6461:5997
3356 6130 14572
4.68.1.166 from 4.68.1.166 (4.68.1.166)
Origin IGP, metric 0, localpref 100, valid, external
Community: 3356:3 (North America) 3356:100 3356:123 (Customer route) 3356:575 (USA) 3356:2002 (SDG - San Diego)
6079 174 36025 14572
207.172.6.227 from 207.172.6.227 (207.172.6.227)
Origin IGP, metric 22, localpref 100, valid, external
4513 701 6130 14572
209.10.12.28 from 209.10.12.28 (209.10.12.31)
Origin IGP, metric 3, localpref 100, valid, external
7500 2516 22773 6130 14572
202.249.2.86 from 202.249.2.86 (203.178.133.115)
Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
6079 174 36025 14572
207.172.6.162 from 207.172.6.162 (207.172.6.162)
Origin IGP, metric 6, localpref 100, valid, external
852 174 36025 14572
154.11.11.113 from 154.11.11.113 (154.11.11.113)
Origin IGP, metric 0, localpref 100, valid, external
Community: 852:180
852 174 36025 14572
154.11.98.225 from 154.11.98.225 (154.11.98.225)
Origin IGP, metric 0, localpref 100, valid, external
Community: 852:180
4513 174 36025 14572
209.10.12.125 from 209.10.12.125 (209.10.12.125)
Origin IGP, metric 3, localpref 100, valid, external
5056 701 6130 14572
167.142.3.6 from 167.142.3.6 (167.142.225.101)
Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
4513 701 6130 14572
209.10.12.156 from 209.10.12.156 (209.10.12.156)
Origin IGP, metric 0, localpref 100, valid, external
8075 22773 6130 14572
207.46.32.32 from 207.46.32.32 (207.46.32.32)
Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
2914 174 36025 14572
129.250.0.85 from 129.250.0.85 (129.250.0.85)
Origin IGP, metric 7, localpref 100, valid, external
Community: 2914:420 (Peer routes) 2914:2000 2914:3000
701 6130 14572
157.130.10.233 from 157.130.10.233 (137.39.3.60)
Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external, best
293 209 6130 14572
134.55.200.1 from 134.55.200.1 (134.55.200.1)
Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
Community: 293:14 293:41
6395 22773 6130 14572
216.140.2.59 from 216.140.2.59 (216.140.2.59)
Origin IGP, metric 0, localpref 100, valid, external
Community: 6395:10
3257 174 36025 14572
213.200.87.254 from 213.200.87.254 (213.200.87.40)
Origin IGP, metric 10, localpref 100, valid, external
11608 174 36025 14572
207.246.129.6 from 207.246.129.6 (207.246.155.208)
Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
Community: 11608:444 11608:801 11608:1008 11608:6601
3303 174 36025 14572
164.128.32.11 from 164.128.32.11 (164.128.32.11)
Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
Community: 3303:1004 3303:1005
7660 2516 22773 6130 14572
203.181.248.233 from 203.181.248.233 (203.181.248.13)
Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
3549 6517 6517 6517 6517 6130 14572
208.51.134.254 from 208.51.134.254 (67.17.81.162)
Origin IGP, metric 2550, localpref 100, valid, external
Community: 3549:4102 (customer) 3549:30840 (UNITED STATES - N. America (and all non-continental islands from GMT through GMT-12))
1221 4637 3356 6130 14572
203.62.252.26 from 203.62.252.26 (203.62.252.26)
Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
14608 19029 174 36025 14572
209.161.175.4 from 209.161.175.4 (209.161.175.4)
Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
Community: no-export
6453 3356 6130 14572
195.219.96.239 from 195.219.96.239 (195.219.96.239)
Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
1239 701 6130 14572
144.228.241.81 from 144.228.241.81 (144.228.241.81)
Origin IGP, metric 4294967294, localpref 100, valid, external
Community: 1239:321 1239:1000 1239:1011
2497 209 6130 14572
202.232.0.2 from 202.232.0.2 (202.232.0.2)
Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
5511 3356 6130 14572
193.251.245.6 from 193.251.245.6 (193.251.245.6)
Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
6453 209 6130 14572
207.45.223.244 from 207.45.223.244 (207.45.223.244)
Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
2493 3602 174 36025 14572
206.186.255.223 from 206.186.255.223 (206.186.255.223)
Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
Community: 174:2 3602:65011 3602:65535

Mike - Im just mad about some of the "competitors" out there who BS their way into sales. Ya know?

100000000000% if you got like half the "new" hosts out there they have "own and operate our own datacenter" ya ok =)) I know of 2 hosts that have their own datacenters webair and nat net, forgive me chris i dont know that much about your setup.

TwinTone, good for stepping up:

OrgName: North Tone Systems, LLC
OrgID: NTS-56
Address: 709 Green Meadow Dr
City: Verona
StateProv: WI
PostalCode: 53593
Country: US

ASNumber: 13477
ASName: NORTHTONESYSTEMS
ASHandle: AS13477
Comment:
RegDate: 2005-03-21
Updated: 2005-03-21

OrgTechHandle: EKA17-ARIN
OrgTechName: Katzenmeyer, Eli
OrgTechPhone: +1-608-237-1694
OrgTechEmail: [email protected]

Tech support emai is hosthead. Thumbs up!

You can join my club now!
:-) Email me: [email protected]

Making a round-table consortium of adult hosts.
:-)

Cheers.

I host with: Oxeo, Split, Jupiter and ISPrime.

All great hosts but ISPrime is in the league of their own

Were in a few situations.... we have some big big colospace, but dont use the colocations bandwidth, we bring in our own. As well, we own our own datacenter in San Diego as well in Otay Mesa. :-) We also own a huge microwave network with 32 pops in Mexico. Our Otay Mesa facility (ours) shoots internet connectivity across the border into mexico providing internet to thousands and thousands of customers.

Heres some photos when I gave a tour of our Mexican side.

http://38.96.4.16/ian/ian.html






My tech Ariel Taranto is wearing pink? Il have to talk to him about that color.


Rosarito view from our LaGloria pop:

Hey Chris,

Bet you wish you would have owned your own IP's a few months ago before the move... would have saved you some headaches.

I can understand some of your clients not wanting to switch, but now that you own your own IP's you should at least switch splitinfinity.com of of it's Cogent IP... same for suavemente.net

Address lookup

canonical name splitinfinity.com.
aliases
addresses 38.96.4.11

Network Whois record

Queried whois.arin.net with "38.96.4.11"...

OrgName: Performance Systems International Inc.
OrgID: PSI
Address: 1015 31st St NW
City: Washington
StateProv: DC
PostalCode: 20007
Country: US

NetRange: 38.0.0.0 - 38.255.255.255
CIDR: 38.0.0.0/8
NetName: PSINETA
NetHandle: NET-38-0-0-0-1
Parent:
NetType: Direct Allocation
NameServer: NS.PSI.NET
NameServer: NS2.PSI.NET
Comment: Reassignment information for this block can be found at
Comment: rwhois.cogentco.com 4321
RegDate: 1991-04-16
Updated: 2005-10-05

RTechHandle: PSI-NISC-ARIN
RTechName: IP Allocation
RTechPhone: +1-877-875-4311
RTechEmail: [email protected]

OrgAbuseHandle: COGEN-ARIN
OrgAbuseName: Cogent Abuse
OrgAbusePhone: +1-877-875-4311
OrgAbuseEmail: [email protected]

OrgNOCHandle: ZC108-ARIN
OrgNOCName: Cogent Communications
OrgNOCPhone: +1-877-875-4311
OrgNOCEmail: [email protected]

OrgTechHandle: IPALL-ARIN
OrgTechName: IP Allocation
OrgTechPhone: +1-877-875-4311
OrgTechEmail: [email protected]

# ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2006-07-26 19:10
# Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database.

Cheers,
Matt

ok me fello mackers I likes when the techs try to gets techy here is whats i foundz on da split crew:

ok nows i looked at your AS, I see yous gots 2 upstream providers that are aggregating your IP space:

AS 36025, who is da discountbandwidthoptions.com

and a 2nd connection to a smackin small mini ISP.

Yous gots no direct connections to any tier1 providers proper im missing somtin? what is there to brag about?

I gots dis here info from route-views btw mackerz

wherez da beefs?

LoL

XSV:

Been doing that. :-)

One of our colos from the past would not allow us to bring in our own connections. Then they sold to another company, which sucked.

We have had our own ips for a while and those are some of the legacy IP's you refer to.

Customers come first, so we have been moving the sites to new ips (our sites that is) time permitting.

Moving our main site over seems easy, but there is billing software and etc that needs to be re-licensed and etc. Which takes some time to move and all that.

So like I said, customers first. ;-)


Our infrastructure is solid and like phatservers and webair were here to stay.

and a 2nd connection to a smackin small mini ISP?

Your route views must be showing your own routers connections buddy.

Looking Glass - show ip bgp 66.11.112.0

does yous own yer own IPS yet? was dat da reasoning when everyon hostin wit you was down for 3 days? bets dem geezas was pissed proper for dat

And adnc is no mini ISP. LOL

UUNet, Qwest, Level 3, XO, Yipes/Wiltel or Verio

I am not Asian

3 days out of 11 years makes you, what, about 1 year old?

"does yous own yer own IPS yet?"
Um yes, thus the subject of this thread.
Just because you point out that our web site is on a legacy ip doesnt mean much. Thats our site, if its down an hour or so, then so be it... but our customers come first.

Oh and one comment, they were not down for three days solid, it was just a handfull of people.

No guy wires on those towers down in Mexico? What's up with that?



Looks pretty tall to have no guy wires on it.

wells yous goin to need to enlighten us then geeza. thats all i sees when i do da harsh lookup. who else do you have DIRECT bgp connections to, and why dont we see dem in your braggage spew?

And dat adnc is tier 1 or 2 ? dey dont seem that biggy to me...more like biggy smalls type a thinkin?

alls i sees is only 2 connections to non-tier1 / tier2 companies, you were best off when yous were using da cogent bandwidth back in the days is da way im thinkin

Im going to have to get that Mexico tour soon.

Simplenet Yahoo (10487)
DBO (36025)
Pacnet (AS20228)
ADNC (6130)

All are network meet-me centers.
We have our own backhaul networks running between our networks.

"Looks pretty tall to have no guy wires on it."

Engineers built that, its waaaay too tall to have guy wires and does not require them the way its built. Not all towers need those. This is constructed to bear hurricane strength winds.

You want something to poke fun at AliG? :-) heheheh

Here is our security guard for one of the mexican towers...



LoL

The top of the hills are rat infested there, kinda gross.
We had to hire a company to kill them all and seal the soil around the concrete bunker so they cannot dig in again.

i iz no ignoramus but whats you mean? downs is downs if it could happens to dem it could happens to me geeza! when it comes to me bankroll playa anythin not 100 percentiles and im out!

Ill trys you when you gots directs to some propa carriers Level3,gblx,mci,att,teleglobe,telia,savvis or any other tier1 network. till den im stickin wit what i gots.