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Hey it helped him get elected. lol
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I hope he plans on finding jobs for the reserves that are over there and come back to news that their previous employeer is in the process of downsizing.Useful adult webmaster links -
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When did Obama take over the country? Did I miss the inauguration?Comment
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"The decision followed months of difficult negotiations and, pending parliamentary approval, will remove a major point of contention between the two allies."
Was Obama negotiating this as a senator?Comment
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Obama knew that these negotiations were going to happen while he was campaigning. And if he was a rational thinker he would have known that they Iraqis and US would come to a pact that would have troops staying more than 16 months. But that would not have gotten him elected so he lied and is just going to blame Bush.Comment
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ever fuck up with a woman so bad that however logical, rational and feasible your solutions seem to be, no matter what you say, no matter what you do, no matter how hard you try and for no matter how long, everything you say and do and every attempt to clean it up only fucks things up that much worse and digs you into a deeper and deeper hole until you finally come to your senses and accept the fact that the single and solitary option that you're left with, in hope of saving yourself, salvaging your dignity and moving on with your life is to cut bait? That's Iraq. Glad to see him doing the smart thing.Comment
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Obama has not yet been sworn into office so this is not his policy.
He said just the other night that he is sticking to his plan of getting troops out within 16 months. All this mandate does is allow them to stay up to another three years if needed, but he has nothing to do with this nor does he have any say in it. Just because they are going to allow the US troops to stay that long, doesn't mean they will.
I'm going to let the guy actually take office before I decide he is already reneging on his promises.Comment
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How is Obama a liar where do you see anything about Obama being involved in this? He's not acting president yet. He wont be in office until Jan and this was done with out his involvement by the Bush admin whom was trying to keep our troops there as long as possible.
You don't find it just a tad bit ironic that all this time the Bush admin couldn't come up with a date to pull the troops out.. Now weeks before Bush is to leave office a deal is suddenly struck now that they know McCain wont be in office.Last edited by crockett; 11-18-2008, 06:50 PM.In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.Comment
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AP Interview: US military can meet Obama demands
WASHINGTON (AP) - The top U.S. military officer said Tuesday the Pentagon is developing plans to get troops quickly out of Iraq and into Afghanistan to battle a more confident and successful Taliban.
Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told The Associated Press in an interview that the military can make the changes President-elect Barack Obama wants in both wars.
"I've been listening to the campaign, and I understand," Mullen said. "And he has certainly reinforced that since the election, so from a planning standpoint, we are looking at that as well."
Mullen, once a critic of Obama's plan to pull combat forces from Iraq in 16 months, said the Pentagon has already identified and practiced travel routes out of Iraq along exit routes through Turkey and Jordan.
The governments in those two bordering countries are U.S. allies, and Mullen said they support the withdrawal planning effort.
Mullen, who is halfway through a two-year term, said he expects to stay on next year as the new administration takes office, adding, "We all serve at the pleasure of the president. I'll serve as long as he wants me to."
Obama has said he wants to assemble a national security team quickly. He has not yet named a candidate for defense secretary _ the top civilian leader at the Pentagon.
The current defense secretary, Robert Gates, is often mentioned as an option for Obama. If Gates stayed it would provide the continuity and stability Obama has said he wants in his national security operations, but neither man has discussed the possibility publicly.
Pentagon officials, including Mullen, have consistently rejected timelines for pulling troops out of Iraq, saying that any withdrawal must be based on security conditions in Iraq. At the same time, military leaders have said they need 15,000 to 20,000 more troops in Afghanistan _ including four more combat brigades.
Obama, who has called Afghanistan an "urgent crisis," said in a speech Oct. 22 that "it's time to heed the call" from U.S. Gen. David McKiernan, the commander of NATO forces in Afghanistan, for more U.S. troops. Obama said he would send at least two or three additional combat brigades. One combat brigade typically has 3,500-4,000 soldiers.
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i guess it help him win the electionComment
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time will show, but i do not have great hopes for any of them
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Anyone who thought Obama was going to be able to follow a 16 month military withdrawal of the troops has no clue about military operations and quite frankly is as dumb as a brink. It was just to get votes and he knew that as well.Comment
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We still have a military presence in: Germany, Japan, South Korea, South East Asia
We aren't leaving Iraq any time soon.Comment
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Does anyone here actually think our military imperialism is going to suddenly end?
Troops might be coming out of Iraq, but they ain't coming home... the international bankers have more countries to conquer over there...
Maybe you guys missed Biden's and Powell's comments about how Obama will be tested for sure right away during his presidency. We will be attacked, most likely in January or February, and they will blame the country that they want to invade, and most of you will probably support the invasion just like most clueless Americans thought Iraq had something to do with 9/11...Comment
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Why are we leaving Iraq?
Have we left Germany?
Have we left Japan?
Have we left Korea?
Any land that American blood is shed over we should remain there until the end of time.Herschel Savage
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I really think we are better off now than we were a few years after 9/11, as far as more people waking up to the bullshit the Government spews at us... I think we are better prepared now and I think more of us will tell our fellow ignorant man to stfu and get facts before they start blaming other countries, etc.
I hope so, at least.
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The troops were supposed to be out years ago. Every year it's the same matra - "the troops will be out next year".
McCain was closer to the truth when he suggested we could have troops there for 100 years. We still have troops in Korea 50+ years later.
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It has to do with who has Rothschild-controlled banks...
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just hope that less people die before they pull out.Comment
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16 months? what a joke just get them home now. What the hell are they gonna do in the next 16 months that they have not been able to in the past 60 months.
Wake up people, when the day comes to bring the troops home there will be designed events that lead to keeping the troops in Iraq. They just keep lying and lying and you swallow it hook, line and sinker.Skype Horusmaia
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I think Obama will pull troops out asap. starting the process in JanComment
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its all a bloody game of big bucks, i feel sorry for the soldiers who fall for this scam or are just desperate for a job and dont know better.... joining the army is being a pawn for the elite, you give your LIFE for their pockets. It aint got shit to do with 'freedom', 'patriotism', or whatever. Those are the words they brainwash you with.Comment
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He'll only pull them out when it's time to move them to Venezuela.Palin/Bigotry '12Comment
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Actually he will pull them out. The same person who warned us via the right channels that oil would drop to $50 a barrel said that they were going to pull out and let the Middle east region go to hell in a hand basket. Let the natives be restless more or less. The same person said that they are now working with Russia (anyone notice that Russian war ship off our coast?) and Indonesia.
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