FINALLY! Kremen VS ARIN! Antitrust and etc... w00t

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  • SplitInfinity
    Confirmed User
    • Dec 2002
    • 3047

    #1

    FINALLY! Kremen VS ARIN! Antitrust and etc... w00t

    Finally someone stands up for the "net". Gary Kremen filed this
    lawsuit against ARIN, nice shit!! Goooood JOB Gary!

    Steve Cohen: Still in Jail.
    ARIN: On the chopping block.

    Read this PDF and shit! ARIN wont be able to fight it.

    http://www.splitinfinity.com/misc/kremenVSarin.pdf
  • ne0
    Confirmed User
    • May 2006
    • 781

    #2
    bump for the justice
    hai2u

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    • media
      Confirmed Moneymaker
      • Apr 2002
      • 9853

      #3
      Damn... thats some interesting news... reading the pdf...
      I'm here for the violence!

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      • stickyfingerz
        Doin fine
        • Oct 2005
        • 24984

        #4
        Reading it good stuff!!

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        • JFK
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          • Jan 2002
          • 67369

          #5
          Originally posted by stickyfingerzdotnet
          Reading it good stuff!!
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          • Chris
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • May 2003
            • 27880

            #6
            hmm
            i never really understood antitrust suits but this gives me a good view on it

            on page 10 now or so

            i think i can pretty well brief it :

            kerman is sueing arin because when kerman won his judgement aginst cohen and all his assests or whatever and in that judgement he got he was awared the netblock with arin had .... arin didnt give it - kerman feels he would of gotten more traffic to his site and would of been able to host more sites if he had this netblock he should of be given ....If he had the netblocks he feels that he would of had better rankings in google lol

            yes he said that :P
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            • joshuawk
              Confirmed User
              • Jun 2003
              • 1092

              #7
              how many IP addresses is he trying to sue for?

              200 million or something? how many class c's is that
              i love GW

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              • Los
                Confirmed User
                • Jul 2001
                • 427

                #8
                where i see bullshit is on page 19 - 20

                1) if your having to hide your info i dont think 99% of the members that own ip blocks would want to do anything with you.

                2) anyone that has gone thru the process of getting ips would know that arin does give very good guidlines of justification.

                note: arin does not make it easy to obtain netblocks but in good reasoning to keep the scum at bay. if you have gone thru the process you know it's a lot of work. and from reading this thing it dosnt look like arin was asking them for anymore info then they would ask the next person.

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                • seeric
                  ..........
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 41917

                  #9
                  reading now.

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                  • Manowar
                    jellyfish  
                    • Dec 2003
                    • 71528

                    #10
                    hah, this will get interesting

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                    • Drake
                      Hello world!
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 12508

                      #11
                      hmmm interesting

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                      • MsWild
                        Confirmed User
                        • Apr 2006
                        • 2803

                        #12
                        very interesting...
                        Always the biggest checks:

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                        • joshuawk
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 1092

                          #13
                          how many ip addresses is he trying to get
                          i love GW

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                          • pocketkangaroo
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jan 2005
                            • 8452

                            #14
                            http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=...ghlight=kremen
                            http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=...ghlight=kremen

                            Seems he owes people money. Nothing against the guy, I just don't like guys who try to make money by suing people left and right.

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                            • XPays
                              Team Player
                              • May 2004
                              • 13002

                              #15
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                              • Pleasurepays
                                BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 11913

                                #16
                                too lazy to read this. is it about gary suing because they allowed him to turn sex.com into a basket case?

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                                • s9ann0
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Sep 2001
                                  • 4873

                                  #17
                                  ARIN needs to understand IP addresses were invented so webmasters can spam google

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                                  • Techie Media
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Jan 2001
                                    • 3092

                                    #18
                                    Interresting reading for sure.


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                                    • SplitInfinity
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Dec 2002
                                      • 3047

                                      #19
                                      "hey chris - how do gary's balls taste"

                                      I was hoping you would tell me before I took a bite myself.

                                      LOL

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                                      • SplitInfinity
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Dec 2002
                                        • 3047

                                        #20
                                        So the deal is basically that Gary won the IP space in a court ruling....
                                        Then ARIN said "No way, were not going to give them to you even though you now own the business and all its assets according to the court".
                                        So Gary's suit is right on track. They are playing BS with him to try to get those IP's out of "historical" arin. Meaning they were assigned during a time
                                        when ARIN had different rules and so are grandfathered in.
                                        Gary has a legit case and will most likely win. And I'll tell you, if he does, it will change the face of IP space as we know it today.

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