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  • Juilan
    Sultan of Swing
    • Feb 2004
    • 15141

    #1

    Photographers - LCD monitor good enough?

    I do quite a bit of photo editing and retouching on a sony CRT, considering the Dell 19 in. LCD ultrasharp monitor. Is LCD good enough?
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  • Grapesoda
    So Fucking Banned
    • Jul 2003
    • 46234

    #2
    in one word: yes

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    • chupachups
      Confirmed User
      • Dec 2002
      • 6576

      #3
      Yes they are good enough. If you are really concerned about quality, I wouldnt buy Dell though.

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      • Juilan
        Sultan of Swing
        • Feb 2004
        • 15141

        #4
        Originally posted by chupachups
        Yes they are good enough. If you are really concerned about quality, I wouldnt buy Dell though.
        Recommendations?
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        • FelixFlow
          Confirmed User
          • Nov 2004
          • 2779

          #5
          Originally posted by chupachups
          Yes they are good enough. If you are really concerned about quality, I wouldnt buy Dell though.



          what do u suggest...apple monitors ???


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          • RawAlex
            So Fucking Banned
            • Oct 2003
            • 9465

            #6
            LCDs are fine, make sure you get the right driver / gamma correction for it to start with. If you really want to go all out, you can get one of those color checking bots to check out your screen and adjust the colors.

            Just remember, your LCD will almost always show black a long time before you get there.

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            • chupachups
              Confirmed User
              • Dec 2002
              • 6576

              #7
              Originally posted by Juilan
              Recommendations?
              I am not 100% sure about Dells (dont have one myself) but its said they all have backlight problems (black isnt really black). If you want quality I would say Eizo is the way to go.

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              • Kimo
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                • Jan 2006
                • 11542

                #8
                nec dude, nec
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                • The Ghost
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                  • Oct 2004
                  • 12188

                  #9
                  LG has some nice monitors
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                  • tony299
                    lurker
                    • Aug 2002
                    • 57021

                    #10
                    http://www.eizo.com/products/lcd/index.asp
                    these are the ulimate for photographers

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                    • L-Pink
                      working on my tan
                      • Mar 2005
                      • 39151

                      #11
                      I use a 21" Sony Artesian and an Apple Cinema Display (lcd)

                      The Sony has a intergrated color management system that is second to none, but could be overkill unless you are also doing print work. (does your yellow match the yellow at the clients ad agency, which matches the yellow at a printer about to run his presses?)

                      The new Apple stuff is great for web work.

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                      • kytec
                        Confirmed User
                        • May 2003
                        • 126

                        #12
                        viewsonic 191b

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                        • MyNameIsNobody
                          Confirmed User
                          • Dec 2005
                          • 2947

                          #13
                          black is never black with LCD monitors.. a high contrast ratio is to prefer when you buy a LCD..

                          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contrast_ratio

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                          • latinasojourn
                            Confirmed User
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 3191

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Juilan
                            I do quite a bit of photo editing and retouching on a sony CRT, considering the Dell 19 in. LCD ultrasharp monitor. Is LCD good enough?

                            yes, good enough.

                            but for accurate color work match up the monitor to your camera output.

                            what i mean is, shoot in raw then when editing if you want output in sRGB (or RGB) you must set your monitor to one or the other so you can properly judge white balance.

                            also set your density level correctly so you can tweak exposure settings properly.

                            usually for web work you will want to use sRGB because that is what most surfers will be viewing your images in.

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                            • Magix
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                              • Jun 2006
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                              #15
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                              • KRL
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                                • Oct 2002
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                                #16
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                                • Ketchup
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jul 2006
                                  • 563

                                  #17
                                  Hey sorry to bring this back from the dead

                                  I do a lot of editing and photography work and have been using a samsung 15 or 16" crt monitor for the past 3 or 4 years.

                                  Today I picked up an LG L1919S Is this model any good? I guess i should have asked that before I bought it lol.

                                  Heres some tech

                                  Display Type: LCD
                                  Resolution: 1280 x 1024
                                  Brightness: 300 cd/m2
                                  High Contrast Ratio: 1400:1
                                  Response Time: 8ms
                                  Viewing Angle: H:160, V:160


                                  Now that I have it in front of me at home it's almost bigger then I want with me having to move my head around to look at differnt icons at the top or bottom. Do you guys really feel comfotable with 19 does anyone use 17's?

                                  Also latinasojourn said I should use sRGB the monitors setting says it is at 6500K so you recomend I would put it down to sRGB?

                                  anyways now that I got it home I'm not sure if i should return it and try a 17 or stick it out tillI get used to it lol arrgh I hate buying computer stuff
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                                  • tony299
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                                    • Aug 2002
                                    • 57021

                                    #18
                                    I wonder what Dean uses?

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                                    • DeanCapture
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                                      • Dec 2002
                                      • 9275

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by tony404
                                      I wonder what Dean uses?
                                      I use a Samsung 213T 21" LCD Flat Panel Monitor. I also calibrate the monitor 'once a month' using the GretagMacbeth Eye-One Display Calibration Tool. Interesting how much a monitor can drift in a months time. By calibrating, I can keep a handle on drifting and know that my work is more consistant in color and contrast.
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                                      • Fizzgig
                                        Registered User
                                        • Feb 2004
                                        • 9649

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Ketchup
                                        Hey sorry to bring this back from the dead

                                        I do a lot of editing and photography work and have been using a samsung 15 or 16" crt monitor for the past 3 or 4 years.

                                        Today I picked up an LG L1919S Is this model any good? I guess i should have asked that before I bought it lol.

                                        Heres some tech

                                        Display Type: LCD
                                        Resolution: 1280 x 1024
                                        Brightness: 300 cd/m2
                                        High Contrast Ratio: 1400:1
                                        Response Time: 8ms
                                        Viewing Angle: H:160, V:160


                                        Now that I have it in front of me at home it's almost bigger then I want with me having to move my head around to look at differnt icons at the top or bottom. Do you guys really feel comfotable with 19 does anyone use 17's?

                                        Also latinasojourn said I should use sRGB the monitors setting says it is at 6500K so you recomend I would put it down to sRGB?

                                        anyways now that I got it home I'm not sure if i should return it and try a 17 or stick it out tillI get used to it lol arrgh I hate buying computer stuff

                                        You get used to it. I've got a 20" CRT right now.
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                                        • Juilan
                                          Sultan of Swing
                                          • Feb 2004
                                          • 15141

                                          #21
                                          I ended up spending $500 on the Gateway 21" widescreen LCD. It tilts to portrait orientation and does hi def input as well. The black point can not be calibrated to absolute black so to me it's "marginal" for photos but good for other daily uses. Dean I will be running dual monitors so I'll have to pick up the Samsung 213T 21 you use and calibrate it. I could never do print softproofing on this thing though I have to rely on a sony trinitron crt for that.
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                                          • DeanCapture
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                                            • Dec 2002
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Juilan
                                            Dean I will be running dual monitors so I'll have to pick up the Samsung 213T 21 you use and calibrate it. I could never do print softproofing on this thing though I have to rely on a sony trinitron crt for that.
                                            I'm not sure if the 213T is still in production but you might be able to find one somewhere. I recently picked up a Samsung 215TW for my regular "surfing" computer but I think it would work fine for color correcting/retouching. I also calibrate it once a month and it seems very easy to calibrate and the skin tones of my pics look great on it.
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                                            • cess
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Sep 2006
                                              • 2921

                                              #23
                                              Brands don't really matter. Every company uses different kinds of panels that most of them don't even make. You should research LCDs a bit before you go out and buy one. tony404 is right about the eizo though, those are really good. I would hate doing any kind of work on a TN panel...

                                              This nec is good and uses a AS-IPS panel...
                                              NEC MultiSync 20WMGX2
                                              Size 20.1" Widescreen
                                              Panel Type TFT/AS-IPS
                                              Native Resolution 1680x1050
                                              Pixel Pitch 0.258 mm.
                                              Color Depth 16.7 mil (8-bit)
                                              Response Time (g2g) 6 ms.
                                              Luminance 470 cd/m²
                                              Contrast Ratio 1600:1
                                              Viewing Angle 89U/89D/89R/89L
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                                              Here's small bit of info about LCD panels...
                                              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TFT_LCD

                                              There's some other good info but most of it is on forums at hardocp.com and anandtech.com, they are even stickied, I'm sure you can find it if you want.

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                                              • spermpie
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Mar 2004
                                                • 85

                                                #24
                                                NEC MultiSync LCD1980FXi - 19in LCD monitor
                                                perfect for photographers ;)

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                                                • Juilan
                                                  Sultan of Swing
                                                  • Feb 2004
                                                  • 15141

                                                  #25
                                                  Thanks for the future reccomendations guys.
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                                                  • LadyMischief
                                                    Orgasms N Such!
                                                    • Sep 2002
                                                    • 18135

                                                    #26
                                                    LCD can be great as long as it's configured correctly for color. I would suggest using a ColorVision Monitor Spyder to calibrate your LCD to the truest color you can get... It can calibrate LCD or CRT.

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                                                    You should be able to find them locally at any camera store. Good luck!

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                                                    • tony299
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                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                      • 57021

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by LadyMischief
                                                      LCD can be great as long as it's configured correctly for color. I would suggest using a ColorVision Monitor Spyder to calibrate your LCD to the truest color you can get... It can calibrate LCD or CRT.

                                                      http://productivityapps.itbusinessne...e.jsp?id=25981

                                                      You should be able to find them locally at any camera store. Good luck!
                                                      I tired the cheaper colorvision one and it was terrible had to return it and that was a nightmare because at microcenter its considered software.

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                                                      • abyss_al
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                                                        • Oct 2003
                                                        • 15605

                                                        #28
                                                        dell ultrasharp and apple monitors are the same... same manuf makes them....

                                                        lcd still does come anywhere near the colors/depth a crt produces.... i'd stick to crt... have you checked out Lacie brand yet? great monitors!
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                                                        • Cyber Fucker
                                                          Hmm
                                                          • Sep 2005
                                                          • 12642

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Juilan
                                                          Recommendations?
                                                          EIZO http://www.eizo.com/products/graphics/index.asp

                                                          I love them

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                                                          • L-Pink
                                                            working on my tan
                                                            • Mar 2005
                                                            • 39151

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by abyss_al
                                                            dell ultrasharp and apple monitors are the same... same manuf makes them....

                                                            lcd still does come anywhere near the colors/depth a crt produces.... i'd stick to crt... have you checked out Lacie brand yet? great monitors!

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                                                            • ronbotx
                                                              Registered User
                                                              • Jan 2002
                                                              • 1634

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by MyNameIsNobody
                                                              black is never black with LCD monitors.. a high contrast ratio is to prefer when you buy a LCD..

                                                              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contrast_ratio
                                                              Actually this is a good article. There are several different types of LCD panels and technologies. Black can be black if you choose the right kind of panel.

                                                              I have an LCD in transit which is a relatively new one from Samsung called the 971P. It utilizes S-PVA which provides a higher contrast ratio (1500:1) and a much wider field of view than the standard TN + film panels.

                                                              I wanted to use it for gaming too, and Samsung claims a 6ms (gtg) response time. Guess we'll see. I still have my 56lb Samsung professional CRT, 900NF, if this turns out to be a bust....

                                                              Here's a review. I will end up paying a little over $300 with my buy.com coupon and mail-in rebate. SRP on this monitor is above average for 19" at $499.

                                                              http://www.overclockersonline.com/in...ticles&num=581

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                                                              • lakroze
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Dec 2004
                                                                • 3527

                                                                #32
                                                                eizo.com - for quality and accurate colors EIZO is one of the few manifacturers which make good LCDs

                                                                (Actually my 2 lcds are HP and samsung, but its coz of the price)

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                                                                • lakroze
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Dec 2004
                                                                  • 3527

                                                                  #33
                                                                  and almost every company is cheating with the info - contrast and so and so - just coz there are too much ways to measure it ...

                                                                  the only proper way to choose is to go to a shop and choose your model by yourself (ofcourse after that u will order it online) but if you want good lcd - theres no option just looking the info on the sites ...
                                                                  and yes - Eizo are the crazy

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                                                                  • RSS
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                                                                    • May 2006
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    I would go with the samsung


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                                                                    • madawgz
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                                                                      • Mar 2006
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      LCD's are great
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