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  • woj
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    • Jul 2002
    • 47880
    #101
    100......,...
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      • bogo
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        • Jun 2002
        • 1982
        #102
        101.......

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          • notabook
            Confirmed User
            • Apr 2006
            • 9748
            #103
            102....... threads about jimthefiend today

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              • GoodGuy
                So Fucking Banned
                • Aug 2003
                • 881
                #104
                Who the fuck is jimthefiend? or the friend?

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                  • woj
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                    • Jul 2002
                    • 47880
                    #105
                    Originally posted by DirtyDees
                    Also, is it true that in some banks they give you a weapon if you open a bank account? WTF?



                    thats funny .. where the hell did you hear that
                    That's actually partially true, somewhat misleading though. There was a bank in texas I think, that ran a promotion where if you opened an account with them you got a gun for free....
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                      • dynastoned
                        mmm yeah!
                        • Feb 2005
                        • 5061
                        #106
                        Originally posted by GoodGuy
                        I still think you are sick...

                        And If you were handling your guns in front of me, I would just insert the guns in your ass.
                        lol i don't even know why i was arguing with you last night. i was piss drunk and speaking to an idiot who has probably never even held a gun in his life...

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                          • 12clicks
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Jan 2001
                            • 19814
                            #107
                            Originally posted by Webby
                            First sentence does not contain any substance of truth. They were never "disarmed" and generally have no need for guns as a means of "self defense" - if anyone "needs" a gun, - buy one, - no biggie.

                            Since the first sentence is a false assumption - the rest does not warrant comment.
                            I love children who spout off and pretend its fact.
                            Son, most of the world don't own guns because its against the law.
                            Oh, and "generally" they don't have a need for guns but when they did, they "generally" died.
                            I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                              • Webby
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Oct 2002
                                • 14956
                                #108
                                Originally posted by 12clicks
                                I love children who spout off and pretend its fact.
                                Son, most of the world don't own guns because its against the law.
                                Oh, and "generally" they don't have a need for guns but when they did, they "generally" died.
                                The subject never was about children and fact - it's about guns.

                                Most of the world don't own guns because they have no use for them.

                                Most of the world have never even thought about being in possession of a gun in their daily life.

                                Please don't make gross assumptions about other nations that guns are "against the law". You never were an international jurist - and never will be.

                                This type of fact is not dependent of your nations beliefs, but reality.

                                Instead of nitpicking - try addressing the problem you already have and not attempt to have some expertise over other nations:


                                Gun facts:

                                In one year, firearms killed no children in Japan, 19 in Great Britain, 57 in Germany, 109 in France, 153 in Canada, and 5,285 in the United States.!!

                                * Every day, more than 80 Americans die from gun violence. (Coalition to Stop Gun Violence)
                                * The rate of firearm deaths among kids under age 15 is almost 12 times higher in the United States than in 25 other industrialized countries combined. (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention)
                                * American kids are 16 times more likely to be murdered with a gun, 11 times more likely to commit suicide with a gun, and nine times more likely to die from a firearm accident than children in 25 other industrialized countries combined. (Centers for Disease Control)
                                XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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                                  • dynastoned
                                    mmm yeah!
                                    • Feb 2005
                                    • 5061
                                    #109
                                    Originally posted by Webby
                                    The subject never was about children and fact - it's about guns.

                                    Most of the world don't own guns because they have no use for them.

                                    Most of the world have never even thought about being in possession of a gun in their daily life.

                                    Please don't make gross assumptions about other nations that guns are "against the law". You never were an international jurist - and never will be.

                                    This type of fact is not dependent of your nations beliefs, but reality.

                                    Instead of nitpicking - try addressing the problem you already have and not attempt to have some expertise over other nations:
                                    shut the fuck up. you make it sound like everyone who owns a gun walks around with it in there waistline. i bet if you looked deeper into those statistics that 95% of those killings come from low income housing areas. where the only way they know how to survive is from selling drugs or ass. that in itself is a whole different can of beans that probably should be addressed first.

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                                      • imfuckinmyself
                                        Registered User
                                        • Jul 2006
                                        • 48
                                        #110
                                        Originally posted by notabook
                                        Uh? it?s because America has black people. Seriously. Go to a peaceful country like Canada if you want civility, the worst they have to worry about there is frostbite.
                                        uhhhh...u fag...america dosent have guns because of Black people, america got fuking guns, because of white people, cause if Black people would have had some fuking guns, there would have never been any fuking slavery, u fuking idiot, and speaking of canada, all they know is finger fukking a farm animal, they think that prevents frostbite

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                                          • Webby
                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                            • Oct 2002
                                            • 14956
                                            #111
                                            Originally posted by dynastoned
                                            shut the fuck up. you make it sound like everyone who owns a gun walks around with it in there waistline. i bet if you looked deeper into those statistics that 95% of those killings come from low income housing areas. where the only way they know how to survive is from selling drugs or ass. that in itself is a whole different can of beans that probably should be addressed first.
                                            Why don't you shut the fuck up??? There is good reason to.

                                            It never was about anyone owning a gun and assuming they walked around with this in their wastline.

                                            It also was never about the "social status" the killings come. This also, applies across the board in other nations.

                                            The facts speak for themselves - it's a pathetic story.

                                            If we take your assumption to be correct - it's an even worse story.

                                            It's also clearly evident some folks don't just "walk around with it in there waistline" - they kill people instead.
                                            XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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                                              • dynastoned
                                                mmm yeah!
                                                • Feb 2005
                                                • 5061
                                                #112
                                                Originally posted by Webby
                                                Why don't you shut the fuck up??? There is good reason to.

                                                It never was about anyone owning a gun and assuming they walked around with this in their wastline.

                                                It also was never about the "social status" the killings come. This also, applies across the board in other nations.

                                                The facts speak for themselves - it's a pathetic story.

                                                If we take your assumption to be correct - it's an even worse story.

                                                It's also clearly evident some folks don't just "walk around with it in there waistline" - they kill people instead.
                                                have you ever heard of this thing called a "paragraph"? use one...

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                                                  • Webby
                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                    • 14956
                                                    #113
                                                    Originally posted by dynastoned
                                                    have you ever heard of this thing called a "paragraph"? use one...
                                                    Try starting a sentence with a capital letter.

                                                    The usual pointless dribble...
                                                    XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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                                                      • notabook
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Apr 2006
                                                        • 9748
                                                        #114
                                                        Originally posted by imfuckinmyself
                                                        uhhhh...u fag...america dosent have guns because of Black people, america got fuking guns, because of white people, cause if Black people would have had some fuking guns, there would have never been any fuking slavery, u fuking idiot, and speaking of canada, all they know is finger fukking a farm animal, they think that prevents frostbite

                                                        Look bud, I?m just a realist and I tell it like it is.. Compare Canada to America bud, what is the massive difference between our two nations? Population for sure, but hardly diversity. They have a great ethnic mix of peoples yet they don't seem to be blowing off people's heads left and right like us colorful American folk... so why exactly is the reason for that? It's quite simple really, it's because we have black people I wish we didn?t have to own firearms to protect ourselves from the shaven gorillas, but it?s something that we deal with everyday. You get used to it after a while? it becomes second nature.

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                                                          • dynastoned
                                                            mmm yeah!
                                                            • Feb 2005
                                                            • 5061
                                                            #115
                                                            Originally posted by Webby.
                                                            In one year, firearms killed no children in Japan, 19 in Great Britain, 57 in Germany, 109 in France, 153 in Canada, and 5,285 in the United States.!!
                                                            i love your stats too. most of which are pointed out to make the US look much worse then it actually is. when in actuality every country you posted above has far less the population then that of the United States. which obviously wasn't pointed out and wouldn't have made a couple of those numbers quite so drastic had it been done per 100,000 people.

                                                            not to mention that according to the international death rate (deaths/1,000 population) that every country you posted above has a higher death rate then that of the US. more then ONE FOURTH (25% for you fucking idiots) more likely to die in one of those countries then the US which is a close second behind canada. which only comes out to be 5.4% more likely to die in the US then in Canada. a far cry from those piece of shit countries you already posted above.

                                                            stats are fun shall we continue? now like i said shut the fuck up. and go crawl back in that hole under that rock from which you came out of.

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                                                              • notabook
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Apr 2006
                                                                • 9748
                                                                #116
                                                                Originally posted by dynastoned
                                                                not to mention that according to the international death rate (deaths/1,000 population) that every country you posted above has a higher death rate then that of the US. more then ONE FOURTH (25% for you fucking idiots) more likely to die in one of those countries then the US which is a close second behind canada. which only comes out to be 5.4% more likely to die in the US then in Canada. a far cry from those piece of shit countries you already posted above.
                                                                USA compared to Germany, France, Canada, and the UK on murder:

                                                                USA: Around 4.2802 per 100k are murdered.
                                                                Germany: Around 1.16461 per 100k are murdered.
                                                                France: Around 1.73272 per 100k are murdered.
                                                                UK: Around 1.40633 per 100k are murdered.
                                                                Canada: Around 1.49063 per 100k are murdered.

                                                                Hmmmmm.... you are only 2.7x more likely to be murdered in America than you are in Canada. =(
                                                                Last edited by notabook; 07-22-2006, 03:45 PM.

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                                                                  • Webby
                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                                    • 14956
                                                                    #117
                                                                    Originally posted by dynastoned
                                                                    i love your stats too. most of which are pointed out to make the US look much worse then it actually is. when in actuality every country you posted above has far less the population then that of the United States. which obviously wasn't pointed out and wouldn't have made a couple of those numbers quite so drastic had it been done per 100,000 people.
                                                                    Sheesh... is this some kind of defense??

                                                                    You now wish to nitpick "my" stats?? They are not my stats but from your own govt orgs - specifically the Centers for Disease Control. Gimme a break.

                                                                    Read already posted stuff - that did account for pro rata population.

                                                                    Sample...

                                                                    US popluation is around 4.5 times that of the UK. On a pro rata population basis you are then comparing 85 UK deaths to 5285 US deaths. DUH???

                                                                    What exactly are you trying to say??? Tell me the US has no firearms offenses next.
                                                                    XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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                                                                      • Webby
                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                        • Oct 2002
                                                                        • 14956
                                                                        #118
                                                                        Screw this.. some people just can't read or have a denial of any facts...

                                                                        If you have some problem with the figures - contact the CDC - not me.

                                                                        American children are more at risk from firearms than the children of any other industrialized nation. In one year, firearms killed no children in Japan, 19 in Great Britain, 57 in Germany, 109 in France, 153 in Canada, and 5,285 in the United States. (Centers for Disease Control)

                                                                        In a single year, 3,012 children and teens were killed by gunfire in the United States, according to the latest national data released in 2002. That is one child every three hours; eight children every day; and more than 50 children every week. And every year, at least 4 to 5 times as many kids and teens suffer from non-fatal firearm injuries. (Children's Defense Fund and National Center for Health Statistics)

                                                                        American children are more at risk from firearms than the children of any other industrialized nation. In one year, firearms killed no children in Japan, 19 in Great Britain, 57 in Germany, 109 in France, 153 in Canada, and 5,285 in the United States. (Centers for Disease Control)
                                                                        School Safety

                                                                        * Between 1994 and 1999, there were 220 school associated violent events resulting in 253 deaths - - 74.5% of these involved firearms. Handguns caused almost 60% of these deaths. (Journal of American Medical Association, December 2001)
                                                                        * In 1998-99 academic year, 3,523 students were expelled for bringing a firearm to school. This is a decrease from the 5,724 students expelled in 1996-97 for bringing a firearm to school. (U.S. Department of Education, October 2000)
                                                                        * Nearly 8% of adolescents in urban junior and senior high schools miss at least one day of school each month because they are afraid to attend. (National Mental Health & Education Center for Children & Families, National Association of School Psychologists 1998)
                                                                        * The National School Boards Association estimates that more than 135,000 guns are brought into U.S. schools each day. (NSBA, 1993)

                                                                        Children and Gun Violence

                                                                        * America is losing too many children to gun violence. Between 1979 and 2001, gunfire killed 90,000 children and teens in America. (Children's Defense Fund and National Center for Health Statistics)
                                                                        * In one year, more children and teens died from gunfire than from cancer, pneumonia, influenza, asthma, and HIV/AIDS combined. (Children's Defense Fund)
                                                                        * The rate of firearm deaths among kids under age 15 is almost 12 times higher in the United States than in 25 other industrialized countries combined. (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention)

                                                                        America and Gun Violence

                                                                        * Every day, more than 80 Americans die from gun violence. (Coalition to Stop Gun Violence)
                                                                        * The rate of firearm deaths among kids under age 15 is almost 12 times higher in the United States than in 25 other industrialized countries combined. (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention)
                                                                        * American kids are 16 times more likely to be murdered with a gun, 11 times more likely to commit suicide with a gun, and nine times more likely to die from a firearm accident than children in 25 other industrialized countries combined. (Centers for Disease Control)
                                                                        XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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                                                                          • clicker
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Jun 2006
                                                                            • 1113
                                                                            #119

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                                                                              • 12clicks
                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                • Jan 2001
                                                                                • 19814
                                                                                #120
                                                                                Originally posted by Webby
                                                                                Screw this.. some people just can't read or have a denial of any facts...
                                                                                Yes, and sadly, its the one who never shuts up. You.

                                                                                Your facts are bullshit.
                                                                                you want to cite Japan? you can't own a gun in japan. Their fucking olympic shooting team has to practice outside the country because of their gun laws.
                                                                                yeah, comparing them to a country where everyone has a gun is brilliant.

                                                                                you know, not many people are killed by cars in antarctica either. What is that shit hole you live in going to do about its death by auto rate when its so much lower in antarctica?

                                                                                Debby, at the end of the day, it all comes down to you being an American hater. You're so insecure about the decision you made about where you should live that you've constatly have to make up stories proving you did the right thing.
                                                                                I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                  • Webby
                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                                                    • 14956
                                                                                    #121
                                                                                    Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                                    Debby, at the end of the day, it all comes down to you being an American hater. You're so insecure about the decision you made about where you should live that you've constatly have to make up stories proving you did the right thing.
                                                                                    Of course it does - that's the only thing you can feed off and something that is of great relevance to you. Personally - I don't give a shit.

                                                                                    Just pay your taxes and check up Bush's ass for some ray of sunshine - and don't forget to shoot some kids as a quaint national custom
                                                                                    Last edited by Webby; 07-22-2006, 08:33 PM.
                                                                                    XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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                                                                                      • 12clicks
                                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                        • Jan 2001
                                                                                        • 19814
                                                                                        #122
                                                                                        Originally posted by Webby
                                                                                        Of course it does - that's the only thing you can feed off and something that is of great relevance to you. Personally - I don't give a shit.
                                                                                        your countless anti-American posts say different.

                                                                                        Once you stop hating yourself for your life's bad decisions, it will be easier to not hate Americans for their good decisions.
                                                                                        I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                          • minusonebit
                                                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                                                            • Feb 2006
                                                                                            • 7391
                                                                                            #123
                                                                                            Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                                            your countless anti-American posts say different.

                                                                                            Once you stop hating yourself for your life's bad decisions, it will be easier to not hate Americans for their good decisions.
                                                                                            I havent seen many Anti-American posts by him. I have seen posts that dont praise America. So does that make one Anti-American?

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                                                                                              • Mr. Romance
                                                                                                The Face of Romance and the Symbol of Freedom
                                                                                                • Mar 2005
                                                                                                • 7821
                                                                                                #124
                                                                                                good question....i am American and when I lived there I always had a gun...most of my freinds had 2 or more...no idea..

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                                                                                                  • Dirty Dane
                                                                                                    Sick Fuck
                                                                                                    • Feb 2004
                                                                                                    • 9491
                                                                                                    #125
                                                                                                    Because its easier to shoot than talk

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                                                                                                      • 12clicks
                                                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                        • Jan 2001
                                                                                                        • 19814
                                                                                                        #126
                                                                                                        Originally posted by minusonebit
                                                                                                        I havent seen many Anti-American posts by him. I have seen posts that dont praise America. So does that make one Anti-American?
                                                                                                        get lost, halfwit. defending one of your own kind won't work here.
                                                                                                        I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                                          • 12clicks
                                                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                            • Jan 2001
                                                                                                            • 19814
                                                                                                            #127
                                                                                                            Originally posted by Dirty Dane
                                                                                                            Because its easier to shoot than talk
                                                                                                            how'd that talking work out for you in WWII?
                                                                                                            I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                                              • american pervert
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                                                                                                                • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                • 6840
                                                                                                                #128
                                                                                                                We have guns because our fore fathers who founded this country knew the importance to citizens to protect themselves from a tyrantical goverment. When only the police have guns, its a police state.
                                                                                                                I can resist everything except temptation

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                                                                                                                  • Pandemos
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                                                                                                                    • Jun 2005
                                                                                                                    • 956
                                                                                                                    #129
                                                                                                                    Most americans seems to have guns because so many other americans hae guns, a situation of monumental absurdity.
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                                                                                                                      • american pervert
                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                        • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                        • 6840
                                                                                                                        #130
                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Pandemos
                                                                                                                        Most americans seems to have guns because so many other americans hae guns, a situation of monumental absurdity.

                                                                                                                        kinda like how british have horrible teeth b/c so many other british have horrible teeth
                                                                                                                        I can resist everything except temptation

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                                                                                                                          • 12clicks
                                                                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                            • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                            • 19814
                                                                                                                            #131
                                                                                                                            Originally posted by american pervert
                                                                                                                            kinda like how british have horrible teeth b/c so many other british have horrible teeth
                                                                                                                            no, I think your's even made more sense than his.
                                                                                                                            I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                                                              • Z
                                                                                                                                Vidi Vici Veni
                                                                                                                                • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                                • 6308
                                                                                                                                #132
                                                                                                                                If I thought for one minute that it was possible to have an intelligent conversation about guns in this forum, I'd be more than happy to engage in it. But, I don't.

                                                                                                                                So I'll simply say that when I lived in the US, I had an extensive gun collection and carried every day, everywhere. Usually I carried a sidearm and a back-up pistol.

                                                                                                                                In four years in the Marine Corps, all spent as a police officer and criminal investigator, my sidearm saved my life, other lives and prevented crimes more times than I'd care to remember. In 6 years of carrying a personal protection sidearm, my pistol saved my life twice, my girlfriend's once and protected my business once too. I used my weapons for target shooting, competition shooting and hunting too.

                                                                                                                                If that's not enough justification for you to shut the fuck up about something you have no concept of and simply agree to disagree, then talking to you about it is a waste of time anyway. Go back to whatever entertains you and leave the subject alone.

                                                                                                                                If you want to know more, I'll be happy to take whoever wants to go shooting at Internext in Florida. Just hit me up and let's go put little holes in paper targets. After that, we'll see where you stand.

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                                                                                                                                  • pocketkangaroo
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                                                                                                                                    • Jan 2005
                                                                                                                                    • 8452
                                                                                                                                    #133
                                                                                                                                    http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cr...ers-per-capita

                                                                                                                                    The US is 24th on that list of murder per capita. Why aren't you calling out the other 23 countries ahead of them?

                                                                                                                                    You also have to take into account that a very small part of our population does the murdering. 1% of our population is responsible for half the murders in the US. 99% of the places in our country are very safe to live and have no problems with murder. We just have very small areas that are bad. Stay out of there and away from those people, and who cares?

                                                                                                                                    Having freedoms have consequences. Our country lets us defend ourselves against our government. Most other countries don't.

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                                                                                                                                      • Webby
                                                                                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                        • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                        • 14956
                                                                                                                                        #134
                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by pocketkangaroo
                                                                                                                                        The US is 24th on that list of murder per capita. Why aren't you calling out the other 23 countries ahead of them?
                                                                                                                                        Reason being the thread is about firearms - not murder rates. Murders are committed by more than just firearms.
                                                                                                                                        XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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                                                                                                                                          • Mr. Blue
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                                                                                                                                            • Jan 2005
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                                                                                                                                            #135
                                                                                                                                            Hmm, I have a feeling this is one of those topics that I should waste my time on. It's too easy to stereotype the American gun ownership and too easy to point to statistics that can have a certain skewed aspect to them.

                                                                                                                                            Each state has it's own rules on gun ownership, some states are very easy to possess and own guns, while other states have pretty stringent regulations on the topic. Now you would think that the statistics in the states that have loose gun regulations would be the states that had the most violent crime, but it's just not the case.

                                                                                                                                            Vermont has one of the most liberal gunlaws out of all 50 states. Anyone can carry a concealed weapon, there's very loose regulations on the topic, yet it's one of the safest states to live in with one of the lowest crime rates. Also if you look at the low crime states, they all have fairly relaxed gun laws.

                                                                                                                                            Also, there are countries with very loose gun regulations, Switzerland, Israel, Finland, etc, and they all have relatively low crime rates (there's some other countries in the mix as well, but I can't remember them off the top of my head). So, gun ownership doesn't necessarily mean an increase in violence and jumping to that conclusion is essentially flawed.

                                                                                                                                            As with anything though, stupid people, do stupid things. Every year 40,000 people are killed in car accidents here, 3.2 million are injured...maybe we should ban cars as well? lol.

                                                                                                                                            Why do Americans have weapons? We're a country born from revolution, it's in our Bill of Rights, and part of our history / heritage. When the government for whatever reason can't protect us, we protect ourselves, and it's a tradition more or less that's followed since the revolution, the expansion westward, etc.

                                                                                                                                            Also, there is a thing regarding marksmanship as a sport. Personally I like old weapons, so I do have a recursive bow I like to use for target practice, and I do also throw knives for target practice as well (basically like darts only with a knife, lol).

                                                                                                                                            One final thing, I don't own a gun, so my view on this topic isn't because of a vested self interest.
                                                                                                                                            See Sig...oh wait.

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                                                                                                                                              • Sly
                                                                                                                                                Let's do some business!
                                                                                                                                                • Sep 2004
                                                                                                                                                • 31379
                                                                                                                                                #136
                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by Webby
                                                                                                                                                Reason being the thread is about firearms - not murder rates. Murders are committed by more than just firearms.
                                                                                                                                                Yes, it is. However the most common argument or complaint about firearms is murder. In this very thread, YOU stated many stats and facts regarding guns and their kill factor, if you will. Murder and guns often go hand and hand in these arguments, and you know it
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                                                                                                                                                  • Dirty Dane
                                                                                                                                                    Sick Fuck
                                                                                                                                                    • Feb 2004
                                                                                                                                                    • 9491
                                                                                                                                                    #137
                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                                                                                                    how'd that talking work out for you in WWII?
                                                                                                                                                    What has american carry guns to do with WWII?

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                                                                                                                                                      • detoxed
                                                                                                                                                        vip member
                                                                                                                                                        • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                                                        • 17798
                                                                                                                                                        #138
                                                                                                                                                        Its because 100 years ago and as recently as 50 years ago in some parts of the US, a gun was a daily part of life for protecting your farm and hunting for food.

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                                                                                                                                                          • pocketkangaroo
                                                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                            • Jan 2005
                                                                                                                                                            • 8452
                                                                                                                                                            #139
                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by Webby
                                                                                                                                                            Reason being the thread is about firearms - not murder rates. Murders are committed by more than just firearms.
                                                                                                                                                            So what is your problem with firearms if it has nothing to do with murder rates?

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                                                                                                                                                              • GoodGuy
                                                                                                                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                • Aug 2003
                                                                                                                                                                • 881
                                                                                                                                                                #140
                                                                                                                                                                Why do so many Americans say "because we can"

                                                                                                                                                                What do they mean exactly with "because they can" ?

                                                                                                                                                                If they referring to "gov and money" that allow them to buy one, then it's a ridicolous excuse...

                                                                                                                                                                If the gov allows you to kill illegal inmigrants you don't like, would you do it?

                                                                                                                                                                Pretty retard for a 1st world country..

                                                                                                                                                                I think USA is stil a 3rd world society, but wiht money...

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                                                                                                                                                                  • pocketkangaroo
                                                                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                    • Jan 2005
                                                                                                                                                                    • 8452
                                                                                                                                                                    #141
                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by GoodGuy
                                                                                                                                                                    Why do so many Americans say "because we can"

                                                                                                                                                                    What do they mean exactly with "because they can" ?

                                                                                                                                                                    If they referring to "gov and money" that allow them to buy one, then it's a ridicolous excuse...

                                                                                                                                                                    If the gov allows you to kill illegal inmigrants you don't like, would you do it?

                                                                                                                                                                    Pretty retard for a 1st world country..

                                                                                                                                                                    I think USA is stil a 3rd world society, but wiht money...
                                                                                                                                                                    Might I ask what you have against firearms? Is it the death rate? Do you propose a ban on guns because it causes murder?
                                                                                                                                                                    Last edited by pocketkangaroo; 07-23-2006, 01:49 PM.

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                                                                                                                                                                      • GoodGuy
                                                                                                                                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                        • Aug 2003
                                                                                                                                                                        • 881
                                                                                                                                                                        #142
                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by pocketkangaroo
                                                                                                                                                                        Might I ask what you have against firearms? Is it the death rate? Do you propose a ban on guns because it causes murder?
                                                                                                                                                                        I can't believe you are asking those questions. Seriously.

                                                                                                                                                                        It's probably hard to understand because we live in totally different cultures.

                                                                                                                                                                        Here, even Gun toys for children are banned now..

                                                                                                                                                                        And I think it's normal to associate guns with a bad thing (In a normal and decent country)

                                                                                                                                                                        Correct me if im wonrg, but I think in USA you grow up with the gun culture in your head, and that's why you consider guns just as if they were like having a car or having a TV. Very sad.

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                                                                                                                                                                          • Mr. Blue
                                                                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                            • Jan 2005
                                                                                                                                                                            • 536
                                                                                                                                                                            #143
                                                                                                                                                                            Can I ask where you're from GoodGuy? I'm just curious
                                                                                                                                                                            See Sig...oh wait.

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                                                                                                                                                                              • Evil1
                                                                                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                • Mar 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                • 3893
                                                                                                                                                                                #144
                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by GoodGuy
                                                                                                                                                                                Correct me if im wonrg, but I think in USA you grow up with the gun culture in your head, and that's why you consider guns just as if they were like having a car or having a TV. Very sad.
                                                                                                                                                                                I think ill go out tommorow and snag a .45 just cause all this gun talk got me excited.

                                                                                                                                                                                Too bad you cant do a fucking thing about it huh?

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                                                                                                                                                                                  • american pervert
                                                                                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                    • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                    • 6840
                                                                                                                                                                                    #145
                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by GoodGuy
                                                                                                                                                                                    Why do so many Americans say "because we can"

                                                                                                                                                                                    What do they mean exactly with "because they can" ?

                                                                                                                                                                                    If they referring to "gov and money" that allow them to buy one, then it's a ridicolous excuse...

                                                                                                                                                                                    If the gov allows you to kill illegal inmigrants you don't like, would you do it?

                                                                                                                                                                                    Pretty retard for a 1st world country..

                                                                                                                                                                                    I think USA is stil a 3rd world society, but wiht money...

                                                                                                                                                                                    people have replied with educated answers and you not only do not reply but also use bad grammer and spelling errors. and you have the nerve to call us uneducated. what country are you trolling for?
                                                                                                                                                                                    I can resist everything except temptation

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                                                                                                                                                                                      • Cyber Fucker
                                                                                                                                                                                        Hmm
                                                                                                                                                                                        • Sep 2005
                                                                                                                                                                                        • 12642
                                                                                                                                                                                        #146
                                                                                                                                                                                        because they are afraid of other americans who have it too... lol

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                                                                                                                                                                                          • GoodGuy
                                                                                                                                                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                                            • Aug 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                            • 881
                                                                                                                                                                                            #147
                                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by Evil1
                                                                                                                                                                                            I think ill go out tommorow and snag a .45 just cause all this gun talk got me excited.

                                                                                                                                                                                            Too bad you cant do a fucking thing about it huh?

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                                                                                                                                                                                              • GoodGuy
                                                                                                                                                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                                                • Aug 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                                • 881
                                                                                                                                                                                                #148
                                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by american pervert
                                                                                                                                                                                                people have replied with educated answers and you not only do not reply but also use bad grammer and spelling errors. and you have the nerve to call us uneducated. what country are you trolling for?
                                                                                                                                                                                                English is not my first language, American Pervert.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • american pervert
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • 6840
                                                                                                                                                                                                    #149
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by GoodGuy
                                                                                                                                                                                                    English is not my first language, American Pervert.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    then tell us what is so we can judge your country as are judging ours.
                                                                                                                                                                                                    I can resist everything except temptation

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Evil1
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • Mar 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • 3893
                                                                                                                                                                                                        #150
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by GoodGuy
                                                                                                                                                                                                        whys the french chick holding an american flag?

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