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Why do so many Americans have weapons?

07-21-2006, 05:45 PM

And I am not talking about gangsters, Harlem people, Queens people, Latino neighbors like the one from Training Day with Denzel Washington, etc...

I am talking about white USA families or guys who have weapons in their cars or in their houses. (Of course, I don't include Militars or cops)

Anyway, why do they have so many guns there? I heard something like 1 gun every 3 families somewhere. It's insane! In other normal countries you maybe have 1 gun every 20 families..

Also, is it true that in some banks they give you a weapon if you open a bank account? WTF?

Is "having a gun" part of the American Culture? (Like McDonalds or Hollywood).

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07-21-2006, 05:48 PM

You watch too many movies.

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07-21-2006, 05:48 PM

Um the bank thing is well nevermind, yes they do assuming if a roll of quarters count as a weapon.

We have weapons because we can. We have them for protection, and we have them for hunting.

The gangs and other groups would much rather us not have weapons. Specially the gangs and criminals.

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07-21-2006, 05:48 PM

Uh? it?s because America has black people. Seriously. Go to a peaceful country like Canada if you want civility, the worst they have to worry about there is frostbite.
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07-21-2006, 05:49 PM

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We have weapons because we can. We have them for protection, and we have them for hunting.

You forgot entertainment.

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07-21-2006, 05:51 PM

I'm american.. I have several guns
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07-21-2006, 05:52 PM

Originally posted by GoodGuy

And I am not talking about gangsters, Harlem people, Queens people, Latino neighbors like the one from Training Day with Denzel Washington, etc...

I am talking about white USA families or guys who have weapons in their cars or in their houses. (Of course, I don't include Militars or cops)

Anyway, why do they have so many guns there? I heard something like 1 gun every 3 families somewhere. It's insane! In other normal countries you maybe have 1 gun every 20 families..

Also, is it true that in some banks they give you a weapon if you open a bank account? WTF?

Is "having a gun" part of the American Culture? (Like McDonalds or Hollywood).

Assuming you are outside the US GoodGuy - you are prob at more of an advantage.

Looking inwards can say volumes about any culture/society.

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07-21-2006, 05:53 PM

Originally posted by Sly

You forgot entertainment.

heh...

are you sure I watch to many movies?
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07-21-2006, 05:53 PM

Originally posted by Webby

Assuming you are outside the US GoodGuy - you are prob at more of an advantage.

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07-21-2006, 05:55 PM

I heard that in Switzerland that every household has a gun, but there is virtually no crime at all, & no gun related violence
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07-21-2006, 05:57 PM

Originally posted by GoodGuy

heh...

are you sure I watch to many movies?

Some people buy guns because they enjoy shooting them. Its fun. Its a stress reliever.

That doesn't mean they march around the streets with a gun on their hip.

I was talking to a guy from Australia once. He came to the States on a vacation. He was pretty disappointed when he realized everyone isn't walking around with a gun in their back pocket.

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07-21-2006, 05:57 PM

I dont gots one

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07-21-2006, 05:57 PM

Because we can, simple as that.

I love guns, I even have a russian sniper rifle and got me two boxes of armor piercing rounds. Why do I have this shit? Because I can, thats why. I enjoy shooting targets. Its alot of fun.

What is it with you foreigners having a problem with guns? Is it because you're deprived of the fun or something?

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07-21-2006, 06:00 PM

Because there are so many people in desperate need of being shot to death.
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07-21-2006, 06:03 PM

Originally posted by spacedog

I heard that in Switzerland that every household has a gun, but there is virtually no crime at all, & no gun related violence

The population of Switzerland is around 6 mill and there are estimated to be around 2 mill weapons in public hands spacedog.

Part of that stems from centuries of having an odd form of national defence - and where all males of military age are given training in the use of firearms and expected to keep an M-57 and 24 rounds at home etc.

Sure.. you are correct - the crime rate from firearms offenses is too low to even consider keeping records and gun control is simply not an issue.

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07-21-2006, 06:06 PM

Why not have guns? Some people use them for hunting, some like to go to the shooting range, some people like to have them as protection, etc. Why do so many people in other countries care about what we do some much in the states?
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07-21-2006, 06:07 PM

90% of the people in my state have guns because they are hunters...
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07-21-2006, 06:08 PM

Originally posted by notabook

Uh? it?s because America has black people. Seriously. Go to a peaceful country like Canada if you want civility, the worst they have to worry about there is frostbite.

That's not true..many weapons are smuggled in the country and you can get them easily..It was also almost 100 here today as well

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07-21-2006, 06:11 PM

Originally posted by bigmack

Because we can, simple as that.

LOL... are you serious?

I know a lot of people who literally can buy and have a weapon, and they don't have one. Here and in other countries. (except the extraordinary case of united states of northamerica).

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07-21-2006, 06:12 PM

Originally posted by JaneB

Why not have guns? Some people use them for hunting, some like to go to the shooting range, some people like to have them as protection, etc. Why do so many people in other countries care about what we do some much in the states?

Other countries also have similar uses of guns - used for hunting and sports activity. Rarely is there any need to have them for personal protection.

The reason for this thread and presumably why the question was asked - is that the US has a gun culture which is unusual in any other civilized countries.

Example.. who needs sniper rifles with armor piercing rounds?? To shoot rabbits or is it a personality deficiency?

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07-21-2006, 06:13 PM

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Why do so many people in other countries care about what we do some much in the states?

Because you guys are really strange specimens of humans and we like stuying them.
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07-21-2006, 06:15 PM

Originally posted by GoodGuy

Because you guys are really strange specimens of humans and we like stuying them.

Watching humans doing and saying predictable things can be funny

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07-21-2006, 06:18 PM

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Example.. who needs sniper rifles with armor piercing rounds?? To shoot rabbits or is it a personality deficiency?

Who needs $500 jeans? Who needs a $100k vehicle? Who needs a $3 million house?

It isn't a matter of needing. Its a matter of wanting. For whatever reason. Boys with toys.

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07-21-2006, 06:23 PM

Originally posted by Webby

Watching humans doing and saying predictable things can be funny
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07-21-2006, 06:35 PM

just in case another country invades, the citzens can protect themselves.
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07-21-2006, 06:37 PM

because it's legal

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07-21-2006, 06:38 PM

The real question should be why do so many so called civillized countries disarm their populations and forbid them a means of self defense?
I mean really, what prolonged period of history has ever seen peace?
none, yet most countries disarm their people and make them nothing more than sheep at the mercy of the next group of wolves.

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07-21-2006, 06:38 PM

why is this a global stereotype?

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07-21-2006, 06:38 PM

Because of the fear culture.
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07-21-2006, 06:39 PM

because we can

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07-21-2006, 06:47 PM

Originally posted by 12clicks

The real question should be why do so many so called civillized countries disarm their populations and forbid them a means of self defense?
I mean really, what prolonged period of history has ever seen peace?
none, yet most countries disarm their people and make them nothing more than sheep at the mercy of the next group of wolves.

This needs to repeated. Won't do any good for the gun loathers, but worth the repeat anyway.
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07-21-2006, 06:50 PM

Originally posted by Quickdraw

This needs to repeated. Won't do any good for the gun loathers, but worth the repeat anyway.

yeah, its a thread killer.

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07-21-2006, 06:57 PM

Originally posted by 12clicks

The real question should be why do so many so called civillized countries disarm their populations and forbid them a means of self defense?
I mean really, what prolonged period of history has ever seen peace?
none, yet most countries disarm their people and make them nothing more than sheep at the mercy of the next group of wolves.

First sentence does not contain any substance of truth. They were never "disarmed" and generally have no need for guns as a means of "self defense" - if anyone "needs" a gun, - buy one, - no biggie.

Since the first sentence is a false assumption - the rest does not warrant comment.

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07-21-2006, 06:58 PM

Originally posted by 12clicks

The real question should be why do so many so called civillized countries disarm their populations and forbid them a means of self defense?
I mean really, what prolonged period of history has ever seen peace?
none, yet most countries disarm their people and make them nothing more than sheep at the mercy of the next group of wolves.

ROFL.. you are very funny... And you are contradicting yourself.

That's why we live in a civilization and that's why we are humans. To understand one with eachother and live in peace. If we have a problem with our neighbor we are not going to use a weapon to solve it. That's why we are humans and why we have a brain.

You are thinking like the neanderthal man who needed a weapon to solve his problems.
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07-21-2006, 06:58 PM

You and those questions ... LOL

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07-21-2006, 07:00 PM

Originally posted by GoodGuy

And I am not talking about gangsters, Harlem people, Queens people, Latino neighbors like the one from Training Day with Denzel Washington, etc...

I am talking about white USA families or guys who have weapons in their cars or in their houses. (Of course, I don't include Militars or cops)

Anyway, why do they have so many guns there? I heard something like 1 gun every 3 families somewhere. It's insane! In other normal countries you maybe have 1 gun every 20 families..

Also, is it true that in some banks they give you a weapon if you open a bank account? WTF?

Is "having a gun" part of the American Culture? (Like McDonalds or Hollywood).

what fuckin rock u been under man? white people been carrying guns since skippy was a peanut.....and speaking of gangstas, white people the biggest fuckin group of gangstas on this fuckin planet, and if all the rest of the people with color, don't start getting just as many guns as these crazy azz white people, they gonna find theirselves looking down the barrel of a gun, carried by yo azz...
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07-21-2006, 07:02 PM

Until a few days ago I didn't know anyone who owns a gun.

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07-21-2006, 07:03 PM

Guns are part of our country's heritage, and even enshrined in the 2nd Amendment of the US Constitution.

However, only criminals mis-use guns.

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07-21-2006, 07:05 PM

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07-21-2006, 07:08 PM

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/07/21/D8J0MBOG2.html this is why.
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07-21-2006, 07:08 PM

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Guns are part of our country's heritage, and even enshrined in the 2nd Amendment of the US Constitution.

"Enshrined" eh? Most folks don't need much "enshrining" or a constitution.

They prob might have to pay $10 or whatever for a permit and another lump to a local gunsmith. Problem solved

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07-21-2006, 07:27 PM

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"Enshrined" eh? Most folks don't need much "enshrining" or a constitution.

They prob might have to pay $10 or whatever for a permit and another lump to a local gunsmith. Problem solved

Exactly man, that's what i was thinking about their weird response:

"we have guns because the gov allow us to do so"

is so retard and stupid to think that way, a very stupid excuse..

It's like the gov tell them "you can kill all the black people and the latinos"

and they go and kill them all, and justificing: "the gov allows us to do so, that's why we do it"
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07-21-2006, 07:33 PM

They keep the foreigners that come to visit in line.
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07-21-2006, 07:42 PM

Originally posted by GoodGuy

And I am not talking about gangsters, Harlem people, Queens people, Latino neighbors like the one from Training Day with Denzel Washington, etc...

I am talking about white USA families or guys who have weapons in their cars or in their houses. (Of course, I don't include Militars or cops)

Anyway, why do they have so many guns there? I heard something like 1 gun every 3 families somewhere. It's insane! In other normal countries you maybe have 1 gun every 20 families..

Also, is it true that in some banks they give you a weapon if you open a bank account? WTF?

Is "having a gun" part of the American Culture? (Like McDonalds or Hollywood).

lol i've had 2 guns since i was 14.. mostly for camping and hunting. i go deer hunting and occasionally dove or turkey hunting. so i own a .243 winchester hunting rifle and a 12 guage mossberg pump. looking into getting me a glock 40 also just for the hell of it.

what the fuck is the problem anyway? it's not my fault there are idiots who run around popping the shit off like they are holding a cap gun. i have mine strictly for recreational use.
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07-21-2006, 07:42 PM

I live in central florida and the crime here is unreal. We have already had more murders this year than all of last year. Last week a store was robbed by three guys. The clerk complied and gave them what he wanted. As the robbers were leaving, one turned around and shot the clerk and killed him.
He was 22. Today there was a home invasion. Three guys broke into a house. The elderly couple gave them everything they wanted. They shot and killed the woman anyways. Awhile back a guy was walking to get his mail at his apt. complex. Four guys pull up in a car and grab him. They force him to take out money from the ATM. He does without resisting. Then they took him out to a field and sodomized him.

I've never felt the need for a gun, until now. The problem is it will probably never be within reach if and when I need it.
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07-21-2006, 07:46 PM

right to bare arms....

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07-21-2006, 07:51 PM

The "for protection from crime" response is more about feeling secure than actually being secure. Criminals don't announce when they're going to rob or kill you so you won't have your gun ready to fire back when you need it.

The real reason is for fun (hunting is included in this - it's a fun pastime for people), the appreciation of holding and mastering a weapon as intriguing and deadly, and I suppose a general sense of security from abusive government or invading army.
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07-21-2006, 07:56 PM

remember kiddies guns don't kill people, people kill people.
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07-21-2006, 07:56 PM

Originally posted by dynastoned

lol i've had 2 guns since i was 14.. mostly for camping and hunting. i go deer hunting and occasionally dove or turkey hunting. so i own a .243 winchester hunting rifle and a 12 guage mossberg pump. looking into getting me a glock 40 also just for the hell of it.

what the fuck is the problem anyway? it's not my fault there are idiots who run around popping the shit off like they are holding a cap gun. i have mine strictly for recreational use.

And you are proud of it?

I think you are sick...
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