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  • ChrisH
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    • Aug 2001
    • 1355

    #151
    Originally posted by mika


    Whatever you call it formally, you know it deep down inside that whenever you cross a border you're going offensive
    Yes. After 12 long years of embargos, sanctions, smart sanctions, missle raids, and failed diplomacy it is now time to take out the cause of this damn thing.
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    • Ace-Ace
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      • May 2002
      • 1863

      #152
      Originally posted by ChrisH


      New translation: When all else fails..... Just call them brainwashed.

      Too funny....
      Yep, this guy is the exact reason I've stopped reading this board. It's turned from an adult board, with some BS to randomly talk about to an anti-America conspiracist forum. Not even worth the trouble to respond to every moron that posts like this.
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      • FATPad
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        • Oct 2001
        • 6693

        #153
        Originally posted by mika


        Whatever you call it formally, you know it deep down inside that whenever you cross a border you're going offensive
        yea... ?

        I don't understand what sort of point this is.
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        • mika
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          • Sep 2001
          • 1561

          #154
          Originally posted by Ace-Ace
          Yep, this guy is the exact reason I've stopped reading this board. It's turned from an adult board, with some BS to randomly talk about to an anti-America conspiracist forum. Not even worth the trouble to respond to every moron that posts like this.
          Seems like youre badly addicted then..

          You know, I stopped smoking yesterday. Well, gotta go for a smoke, bye

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          • theking
            Nice Kitty
            • Sep 2002
            • 21053

            #155
            Originally posted by mika


            I understand you feel very strongly that your country couldn't possibly do anything wrong, but how come most countries in the world didn't support the so called "proof" of yours?

            Colin Powell's presentation was a joke. Arm inspectors wished they could have continued their job and they're now sorry that this ended this way..

            Maybe the whole world is right, and USA is wrong..? no, impossible, because USA has such a wise leader..
            Saddam would not allow the inspectors to do their job. Their "job" from 1991 to 1998 was to oversee the destruction of proscribed weapons, not to play detective and find the proscribed weapons.

            Saddam would not allow the inspectors to do their job after resolution 1441, for once again the inspectors "job" was to oversee the destruction of proscribed weapons, not to play detective and find proscribed weapons.

            It is Iraq that admitted to having proscribed weapons and the terms of the 1991 cease fire required Saddam to present the proscribed weapons to the inspectors to oversee their destruction. When the inspectors left in 1998 there were still tons of chemical and liters of biological materials undestroyed. Resoultion 1441 required Iraq to produce these materials for the inspectors to oversee their destruction. Iraq did not do this, but instead claimed that they had destroyed them, but failed to produce documentation of the destruction and claimed they destroyed the documentation when they destroyed the proscribed materials. Even if one were to accept this ridiculous claim there would be physical evidence of the destruction of the proscribed materials. They failed to produce the physical proof of the destruction of the proscribed materials. They failed to produce the scientists and other personell that participated in the destruction of the proscribed materials.

            Not only did the USA know that these proscribed weapons existed but most of the world knew that they existed and Iraq has to this day not presented one iota of proof that they have been destroyed, other than the claim that they have destroyed them.
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            • ChrisH
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              • Aug 2001
              • 1355

              #156
              Originally posted by Ace-Ace
              Yep, this guy is the exact reason I've stopped reading this board. It's turned from an adult board, with some BS to randomly talk about to an anti-America conspiracist forum. Not even worth the trouble to respond to every moron that posts like this.
              What's really scary is I think they believe what they say
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              • mika
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                • Sep 2001
                • 1561

                #157
                Originally posted by ChrisH


                Yes. After 12 long years of embargos, sanctions, smart sanctions, missle raids, and failed diplomacy...
                USA couldn't wait for 3 more months as I recall inspectors + the rest of the UN security council suggesting

                And theking, whatever, have you heard what Hans Blix has said as his final words? Probably not, too busy reading US propaganda at the moment

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                • ChrisH
                  Confirmed User
                  • Aug 2001
                  • 1355

                  #158
                  Originally posted by mika


                  USA couldn't wait for 3 more months as I recall inspectors + the rest of the UN security council suggesting

                  And theking, whatever, have you heard what Hans Blix has said as his final words? Probably not, too busy reading US propaganda at the moment
                  Hans Blix made his final report today, and infact reiterated that Iraq had not fully complied. What part of Hans Blix' report do you not believe.

                  Blix is the ultimate nice guy. Every thing is great according to him. Which is fine, however he cannot even say that Iraq has complied with inspectors.

                  And for the 3 months. Why not 3 years, how about we give him 3 scores. WTF.... How long does he deserve? South Africa disarmed in a few months. This idiot has been fucking over the inspectors for 12 long years and you want to give him three more months.
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                  • theking
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                    • Sep 2002
                    • 21053

                    #159
                    Originally posted by mika


                    USA couldn't wait for 3 more months as I recall inspectors + the rest of the UN security council suggesting

                    And theking, whatever, have you heard what Hans Blix has said as his final words? Probably not, too busy reading US propaganda at the moment
                    Yes I did and bottom line of what he said, was Iraq did not comply, in substance, but seemed to be complying in process, and 1441 called for substance and not process.
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                    • mika
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                      • Sep 2001
                      • 1561

                      #160
                      Originally posted by theking


                      Yes I did and bottom line of what he said, was Iraq did not comply, in substance, but seemed to be complying in process, and 1441 called for substance and not process.
                      Well, as I said, USA is absolutely right here, thanks to its Great Leader

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                      • ChrisH
                        Confirmed User
                        • Aug 2001
                        • 1355

                        #161
                        Originally posted by mika


                        Well, as I said, USA is absolutely right here, thanks to its Great Leader
                        Avoid the facts. That always works.
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                        • galleryseek
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                          • Mar 2002
                          • 8234

                          #162
                          Originally posted by mika


                          Well, as I said, USA is absolutely right here, thanks to its Great Leader
                          man, theking just owned you. :\

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                          • Turboface
                            Back in Black
                            • Mar 2002
                            • 9976

                            #163
                            Originally posted by mika


                            Well, as I said, USA is absolutely right here, thanks to its Great Leader

                            Who's your leader over there in Finland?

                            Nobody knows, because nobody cares.

                            Do all people from Finland have big heads and big mouths, or is it just you?

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                            • mika
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                              • Sep 2001
                              • 1561

                              #164
                              Originally posted by ChrisH


                              Avoid the facts. That always works.
                              If they are facts, then why didn't the majority of UN security council say 'yes' to war?

                              Maybe it's not as clear as you BELIEVE it is..

                              But really, I don't have time to fight the usual American arguments here..

                              You think what you want.
                              All I'm saying that IMHO there was a lot room for more diplomacy.. If that wasn't even wanted, fine!

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                              • mika
                                Confirmed User
                                • Sep 2001
                                • 1561

                                #165
                                Originally posted by Turboface



                                Who's your leader over there in Finland?

                                Nobody knows, because nobody cares.

                                Do all people from Finland have big heads and big mouths, or is it just you?

                                I'm not a spokesman for Finnish people, unlike all of you Americans who seem to act as spokesmen for your fellow citizens.

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                                • Turboface
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                                  • Mar 2002
                                  • 9976

                                  #166
                                  Originally posted by mika


                                  I'm not a spokesman for Finnish people, unlike all of you Americans who seem to act as spokesmen for your fellow citizens.

                                  Well, you claim to be the expert.

                                  We're all just replying to your anti-American ramblings.

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                                  • mika
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                                    • Sep 2001
                                    • 1561

                                    #167
                                    Originally posted by Turboface



                                    Well, you claim to be the expert.

                                    We're all just replying to your anti-American ramblings.

                                    And I congratulate you, Turboface, for being a real contribution to that cause

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                                    • Turboface
                                      Back in Black
                                      • Mar 2002
                                      • 9976

                                      #168
                                      Originally posted by mika


                                      And I congratulate you, Turboface, for being a real contribution to that cause

                                      I'm not quite sure what you mean, so I'll just say, Fuck You.

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                                      • ChrisH
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                                        • Aug 2001
                                        • 1355

                                        #169
                                        Originally posted by mika


                                        If they are facts, then why didn't the majority of UN security council say 'yes' to war?

                                        Maybe it's not as clear as you BELIEVE it is..

                                        But really, I don't have time to fight the usual American arguments here..

                                        You think what you want.
                                        All I'm saying that IMHO there was a lot room for more diplomacy.. If that wasn't even wanted, fine!
                                        More diplomacy yeah we should have given him 24 years not 12. You're too funny man.

                                        The UN didn't act. Does that surprise you? No action in Rawanda, no action in Bosnia. It's the UN way. It's called appeasment, exactly what they did to Hitler and we all know how that turned out don't we.

                                        Why did France take there position? http://www.lexnotes.com/misc/jacques_iraq.htm They have been appeasing Saddam for years. If it was up to France Kuwait would still be annexed by Iraq.
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