Where in that icq convo does it say he got fired? Oh, it must have been the assumption of this FabianC idiot, I can see why Jason doesn't like him.
For the time Jason ran CEcash was the only time in years I actually heard anything about CE. They were DEFINITELY doing more signups because of him.
You don't leave the position of running CECash within 40 days, you get fired. The only one assuming is YOU.
Hearing about performance and actually performing are two different things. Have you ever ran a program pushing 1,000+ signups per day? I'd bet if they were "DEFINITELY" doing more signups because of Jason this thread wouldn't exist
You don't leave the position of running CECash within 40 days, you get fired. The only one assuming is YOU.
Hearing about performance and actually performing are two different things. Have you ever ran a program pushing 1,000+ signups per day? I'd bet if they were "DEFINITELY" doing more signups because of Jason this thread wouldn't exist
First of all, Jason ran CEcash for 6 months.
Second, I know CEcash did more signups because of Jason. I can point out several big sites where I've saw CEcash ads where they weren't before, including mine. Just with the sales I was sending them they were doing more than before.
I know more about this situation than you do, he wasn't fired. I knew about this BEFORE he left CEcash, you just found out, and Jason didn't tell you anything (read your icq convo again).
Damn, I guess nothing is private in this industry.
Jason has always been good to me.
This isn't the only conversation I've had with Jason and it's far from crucifying him. I hope it just opens his eyes and he learns how to become a man.
Until now I thought the same ... but imagine getting the same ICQ from him.
Thats very very very shitty on your part in posting something like this
What a nice "friend" you are, I wonder why he even wasted so much time with you...
Posting a personal chat just like that...thank god I don't have many "friends" like your shelf..
Seems like you are the one bitter around here...
I heard rumors that he was running his mouth about a lot of people (even some posting in this thread) but I always kept denying it. Now that I've heard it from his mouth, fuck him. Like I said, he fucked over some good people and although at the time I felt he was doing what he had to do, I now see that he's just a piece of shit.
The "oh you posted a personal chat bla bla" is played out, find something new.
Bitter? Far from it ? feels good to back up my true friends and turn the table onto the snake himself.
I heard rumors that he was running his mouth about a lot of people (even some posting in this thread) but I always kept denying it. Now that I've heard it from his mouth, fuck him. Like I said, he fucked over some good people and although at the time I felt he was doing what he had to do, I now see that he's just a piece of shit.
The "oh you posted a personal chat bla bla" is played out, find something new.
Bitter? Far from it ? feels good to back up my true friends and turn the table onto the snake himself.
twist it as much as you want but nobody would make a thread like this and above all fake a friendly convo with somebody just to post it in one of the biggest Internet Message boards...
You are bitter, have no ethics whatsoever ("find something new" - wtf?) and above all showed you cant be trusted...
That's one of the most common things that happened to Ron, people forgot he paved the way for a lot of us. Most of the "big guys" posting in this thread fell victim to exactly what happened to Jason, and that's why they're here sucking his pete-oh!
I don't see anything wrong beeing said about Ron from other guys dude... It's a private matter between 2 individuals... why should the whole industry be aware of it ? It seems it's been taken care off...
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twist it as much as you want but nobody would make a thread like this and above all fake a friendly convo with somebody just to post it in one of the biggest Internet Message boards...
You are bitter, have no ethics whatsoever ("find something new" - wtf?) and above all showed you cant be trusted...
I don't need to twist anything ... I observed what Jason was doing and refused to believe he could be such a prick. I helped bring his Porndollar program to his feet while everyone trashed it, and this is the thanks I get? On top of that, he had no regard for good people along his way to running ?the adult net". There's more to it but I'm over it so fuck it.
You're entitled to your opinion, it's only a message board to me and I've gotten my message across to Jason.
The questions asked look to me like this private conversation was destined to be made public regardless of how Jason answered.
Seems to be the case !
Jason is a great guy that i have known for many years and has always
been professional. Someones personal attack cannot take away from
what he has done and the business relationships that he has forged.
All the best brotha ....i know you have nothing to worry about
I don't see anything wrong beeing said about Ron from other guys dude... It's a private matter between 2 individuals... why should the whole industry be aware of it ? It seems it's been taken care off...
Ron will tell you himself, too many people in this industry have bitten the hand that once fed them. I never thought Jason would turn out like this and I'm sure Ron must be disgusted with his attitude. Fuck, maybe even mine?
Jason has aired out private matters to the whole industry, hurt many people along the way, and still I always stayed cool with him. He got fired and turns on me? He can go fuck himself.
BTW, for those who don't get a personalized reply from me. Don't take it personally, many of you are simply program reps who've gotten conned into believe Jason is an Internet gawd. There're many of you and I don't want to piss with you today. There are 6 people who I wanted to see this thread, and they all have.
BTW, for those who don't get a personalized reply from me. Don't take it personally, many of you are simply program reps who've gotten conned into believe Jason is an Internet gawd. There're many of you and I don't want to piss with you today. There are 6 people who I wanted to see this thread, and they all have.
You are so full of yourself...
Must suck to see just affiliates and program reps (as well a few program owners) behaving like adults awhile you act like a bitter sad person...
This thread was good to show your word, ethics,etc aren't worth shit, so you sure did accomplished something.
That was exactly my thought. Why post the ICQ of you overstepping your relationship and asking him about a private business situation?
Halcyon,
Apparently there's more to Jason ... a LOT more as many are ICQ'ing me about horror stories... but *that* would be overstepping. This post made some people very close to me smile, and that's what I cared about. CE riding themselves of this snake was a good move.
Sure some want to bitch about how it's classless, or how they won't do business with me, fine no problem. In the end it's like a casino, they always end up coming back.
I have know Jason for many years and consider him a friend. He has never had a ego or attitude with me before, during or after his business with CE. You and I have always been cool Fabian but making this thread was kinda weak imho.
Don't know what the fuzz is. In my eyes CeCash died a long time ago. Trying to revive it with new management or whatever probably wasn't enough so heads had to roll. Deep pockets won't turn a program around unless it gets a major overhaul. That never happened, as far as I can tell. There was some hype on the boards but still the same old samo sites anno 1999.
And here I was asking in another thread the other day if people didn't think it was an ancient thing to push. And lo and behold practically everyone "proved" me wrong.
Ah well.. live and let live ;)
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I have know Jason for many years and consider him a friend. He has never had a ego or attitude with me before, during or after his business with CE. You and I have always been cool Fabian but making this thread was kinda weak imho.
Mike......
It's probably because you could literally crush him (or most anyone for that matter) in the palm of your hand.
As I said before, I've known Jason for a long time as well and to see him act this way well, I guess I had to put it on the line more so to open his eyes. His lame ass "larger than life" attitude has been felt by a lot of people. YES I KNOW that some of you feel differently ... that's okay. Over the past few hours I've received ICQ's, phone calls, and emails by MANY "veterans" I haven't talked to in a long time. Most agreeing that Jason is full of shit.
Will any of this change business? I doubt it and it wasn?t my intention. When I posted this it was meant for 6 people in particular. Jason knows exactly who they are and I hope it burns him to know they're laughing at his punk ass. I've made my point loud and clear.
I have too much love and respect for this industry. The real players know this.
Why would you post this stupid shit..whatever Jason is going thru is his
biz if he wanted to make it public i think he would of.
He has never treated me like he was treating you..so there must
be more then we all know.
Good luck Jas..keep in touch
Let me know if you need anything
It's all good; he just contacted me to apologize ? sort of like Biggie and Tupac. He agreed he disrespected the people I'm talking about, admitted to being a complete prick, and he's sorry for all he's done. He'll change his ways for the better or the hit will be placed on him again.
cybererotica will never lead the way again..its impossible..the entire biz has changed.
the leaders now deal in very obscene material that someone with RL's riches would be dumb to deal with.
Gaping bung holes and fisting with baseball bats are not what you want to compete with.
thats just my opinion. I learned more from FM in about 5 minutes of talking than i have learned in years from other resources. I made a ton with them but to think they can lead the back again in this political climate is fantasy land..
i will always owe CE a large portion of my moderate success.
It's all good; he just contacted me to apologize ? sort of like Biggie and Tupac. He agreed he disrespected the people I'm talking about, admitted to being a complete prick, and he's sorry for all he's done. He'll change his ways for the better or the hit will be placed on him again.
I learned more from FM in about 5 minutes of talking than i have learned in years from other resources. I made a ton with them but to think they can lead the back again in this political climate is fantasy land..
i will always owe CE a large portion of my moderate success.
Ditto. I was an ignorant kid when I started. I learned more from FM/CE about how to make money than from anybody in this business.
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the leaders now deal in very obscene material that someone with RL's riches would be dumb to deal with.
thats just my opinion. I learned more from FM in about 5 minutes of talking than i have learned in years from other resources. I made a ton with them but to think they can lead the back again in this political climate is fantasy land..
Ron's no dummy and he never has been. After quite the rocky history, we buried the hatchet a couple years ago and I've got to agree with you mfm... he's got more moneymaking ideas stuck in his head for later than most people will ever have in total.
He's also pretty well known for having his own way and getting rid of people that don't do things his way. I have no idea what kind of numbers he's doing today and no clue what happened with Jason, and it's not my business.
But I'd very seriously doubt that Ron's having any trouble paying his bills or investing his earnings, and anyone on this board that thinks he's not making bank is obviously not someone who knows Ron.
It's all good; he just contacted me to apologize ? sort of like Biggie and Tupac. He agreed he disrespected the people I'm talking about, admitted to being a complete prick, and he's sorry for all he's done. He'll change his ways for the better or the hit will be placed on him again.
It's all good; he just contacted me to apologize ? sort of like Biggie and Tupac. He agreed he disrespected the people I'm talking about, admitted to being a complete prick, and he's sorry for all he's done. He'll change his ways for the better or the hit will be placed on him again.
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