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  • BradM
    Confirmed User
    • Dec 2003
    • 3397
    #1

    50% of users leave prechecked cross sells

    No wonder this industry is abusing 'em.

    PS why'd I get in on this so late
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    • chupachups
      Confirmed User
      • Dec 2002
      • 6576
      #2
      Interesting... where did you hear this Brad?

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        • Hostirian
          Registered User
          • Nov 2008
          • 41
          #3
          Must be new surfers.
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            • Rorschach
              So Fucking Banned
              • Aug 2002
              • 5579
              #4
              87.9% of statistics are made up on the spot

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                • sortie
                  Confirmed User
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 7771
                  #5
                  50% of them post your website here also.

                  http://www.complaintsboard.com/?search=Incrediblepass

                  Have a good time fucking yourself over for a few extra bucks.

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                    • DamageX
                      Marketing & Strategy
                      • Jun 2001
                      • 14293
                      #6
                      Originally posted by Hostirian
                      Must be new surfers.
                      Yeah, only new surfers still buy porn. The old ones are getting their credit cards declined after having to charge back the cost of memberships to sites they never joined.
                      Whitehat is for chumps

                      If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

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                        • BradM
                          Confirmed User
                          • Dec 2003
                          • 3397
                          #7
                          Not porn, and I found out because I am doing it.

                          PS fuck you, you're all poor.

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                            • TheDoc
                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                              • Jul 2001
                              • 13827
                              #8
                              Originally posted by sortie
                              50% of them post your website here also.

                              http://www.complaintsboard.com/?search=Incrediblepass

                              Have a good time fucking yourself over for a few extra bucks.

                              That site is about screwing the surfer over. Lots of sites with two pre-check xsales, but on honest companies, aren't listed on that site.

                              If you want to see how sites really do with prechecks, support, member areas in general, read the comments on review sites.
                              ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825
                              It's all disambiguation

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                                • BradM
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Dec 2003
                                  • 3397
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by sortie
                                  50% of them post your website here also.

                                  http://www.complaintsboard.com/?search=Incrediblepass

                                  Have a good time fucking yourself over for a few extra bucks.
                                  Damn, my site isn't listed there. I am not doing enough volume yet I guess.

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                                    • DamageX
                                      Marketing & Strategy
                                      • Jun 2001
                                      • 14293
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by BradM
                                      PS fuck you, you're all poor.
                                      Says the guy who had to sell his sig.
                                      Whitehat is for chumps

                                      If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

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                                        • BradM
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Dec 2003
                                          • 3397
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by DamageX
                                          Says the guy who had to sell his sig.
                                          Who says I "had" to? The amount bought me a very nice toy, so why not?

                                          That's like me offering to send you X dollars and you just saying "Nah I don't need the money for doing nothing thanks. I'll just not have it instead."

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                                            • BradM
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Dec 2003
                                              • 3397
                                              #12
                                              PS DamageX how is it that you are more spiteful and hateful than I am? You're constantly firing shots at peoples bows. I mean, I am a huge dick. I just can't imagine what your brain is like and what you think about all the time.

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                                                • sortie
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Mar 2007
                                                  • 7771
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by TheDoc
                                                  That site is about screwing the surfer over. Lots of sites with two pre-check xsales, but on honest companies, aren't listed on that site.

                                                  If you want to see how sites really do with prechecks, support, member areas in general, read the comments on review sites.
                                                  Thanks for you opinion but I will be dumping sponsors who do pre-checks.

                                                  I don't subscribe to the idea that it's ok to fuck people over just because of loop
                                                  holes. You're free to call that "good business"; I'm free to consider what it
                                                  really is...a fucking scam.

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                                                    • DamageX
                                                      Marketing & Strategy
                                                      • Jun 2001
                                                      • 14293
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by BradM
                                                      I just can't imagine what your brain is like and what you think about all the time.
                                                      I like that about people.
                                                      Whitehat is for chumps

                                                      If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

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                                                        • TheDoc
                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                          • 13827
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by sortie
                                                          Thanks for you opinion but I will be dumping sponsors who do pre-checks.

                                                          I don't subscribe to the idea that it's ok to fuck people over just because of loop
                                                          holes. You're free to call that "good business"; I'm free to consider what it
                                                          really is...a fucking scam.
                                                          I didn't state an opinion.

                                                          I never said anything about good business either. I said Honest Companies, doing above the button pre-checked xsales. Which isn't a scam, is legal, and is approved and allowed by VISA, nobody is rolling merchant accounts on these, and they are well within the safe CB/Refund limits, often below honest sites.

                                                          You can choose to promote whoever you like, that wasn't the point of either of our posts. I don't promote pre-checked programs and haven't for a long time. It's a real f'in pain in the ass.
                                                          ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825
                                                          It's all disambiguation

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                                                            • sortie
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Mar 2007
                                                              • 7771
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by TheDoc
                                                              I didn't state an opinion.

                                                              I never said anything about good business either. I said Honest Companies, doing above the button pre-checked xsales. Which isn't a scam, is legal, and is approved and allowed by VISA, nobody is rolling merchant accounts on these, and they are well within the safe CB/Refund limits, often below honest sites.

                                                              You can choose to promote whoever you like, that wasn't the point of either of our posts. I don't promote pre-checked programs and haven't for a long time. It's a real f'in pain in the ass.
                                                              The sole reason it's pre-checked is because they pray to god the surfer doesn't know
                                                              what it means and does not uncheck it.

                                                              Bullshit.

                                                              If it's so easy to read and so desired to have and all surfers see it, then why are sponsors
                                                              afraid to let the surfer check it themselves?

                                                              Because they fear the surfer will not see it and check it???

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                                                                • Klen
                                                                  • Aug 2006
                                                                  • 32234
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Those crosssales sponsors act like soon will noone buy porn so they try to collect money as much is possible.Well,soon noone will buy porn if they continue to act like that.

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                                                                    • Puremeds-J
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Sep 2008
                                                                      • 939
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by sortie
                                                                      The sole reason it's pre-checked is because they pray to god the surfer doesn't know
                                                                      what it means and does not uncheck it.

                                                                      Bullshit.

                                                                      If it's so easy to read and so desired to have and all surfers see it, then why are sponsors
                                                                      afraid to let the surfer check it themselves?

                                                                      Because they fear the surfer will not see it and check it???

                                                                      What about recurring billing? What if I someone said that recurring is just because sponsors hope that the person forgets they have a membership? Why not let them come back and manually pay each month? ;)

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                                                                        • sortie
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Mar 2007
                                                                          • 7771
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by Puremeds-J
                                                                          What about recurring billing? What if I someone said that recurring is just because sponsors hope that the person forgets they have a membership? Why not let them come back and manually pay each month? ;)
                                                                          You would have a point if there wasn't a "cancel membership" button the surfer
                                                                          can click at any time in addition to the actual sign up button saying
                                                                          "29.95 a month re-billed at 29.95 per month".

                                                                          Nice try though.

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                                                                            • Puremeds-J
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Sep 2008
                                                                              • 939
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by sortie
                                                                              You would have a point if there wasn't a "cancel membership" button the surfer
                                                                              can click at any time in addition to the actual sign up button saying
                                                                              "29.95 a month re-billed at 29.95 per month".

                                                                              Nice try though.
                                                                              I'm not trying anything though. I'm just saying there are 2 sides to every arguement. One might believe one thing is perfectly acceptable, while another doesn't. This is obvious by all the posts on the complaint sites about epoch doing supposedly ILLEGAL things, when we know this isn't true. To us its legit, to some surfers, its not.

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                                                                                • Puremeds-J
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Sep 2008
                                                                                  • 939
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Actually look at this.. We all know how epoch processes a join.. everything is labeled well, they send an email confirming the join, how to cancel, etc..

                                                                                  http://www.complaintsboard.com/?search=Epoch
                                                                                  163 fraud complaints..

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                                                                                    • KillerK
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • May 2008
                                                                                      • 3406
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      it's more like 25%

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