References? simple: THE Israeli Air Force or all the air wars in Iraq.
"I start telling you stories about what happened between me and your mom"
Please tell me your new sexual adventures with mom. She's been dead for 20 years and Dude, you have my permission to hit that dusty pussy any time you like.
"modern and not relicas.. "
Relics- The old Russian flag.. Red
Modern- The new Russian flag..Red, White, and Blue... (owned)
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I said references? How hard is it to understand?
PS: its red,blue and white...
I would like to explore ?once again? part of your statement. Last time I checked Ivan was marching through Berlin in 1945 not the other way around.. Please correct me if Im wrong..
There needed to be two fronts for Germany to lose. The Allies would have had a near impossible task if there wasn't an Eastern Front, but the reverse is true as well. U.S. entered the war in 1941, the Eastern Front would not have collapsed if Germany didn't have to fight on two fronts. Also the U.S. bombers pretty much crippled the German war machine.
The biggest mistake Germany made was going into Russia...it's too bad many U.S. history books ignore the Eastern Front, but I figure that's the cold war propaganda that was perpetrated on both sides. With that said, the rest of mainland Europe pretty much crumbled to Germany and those same countries would most likely fall again if Germany tried for a third time.
I said references? How hard is it to understand?
PS: its red,blue and white...
My vodka drinking ADD Russian friend. I will make it simple for you!
References Google "THE Israeli Air Force" or "Air wars in Iraq". There you will find a long list of ALL the best Russian aircraft shot down in FIVE wars.
"PS: its red,blue and white"
Americans understand perfection or details is a bit tough for Russians....but you're on the right track.
There needed to be two fronts for Germany to lose. The Allies would have had a near impossible task if there wasn't an Eastern Front, but the reverse is true as well. U.S. entered the war in 1941, the Eastern Front would not have collapsed if Germany didn't have to fight on two fronts. Also the U.S. bombers pretty much crippled the German war machine.
The biggest mistake Germany made was going into Russia...it's too bad many U.S. history books ignore the Eastern Front, but I figure that's the cold war propaganda that was perpetrated on both sides. With that said, the rest of mainland Europe pretty much crumbled to Germany and those same countries would most likely fall again if Germany tried for a third time.
Summer of 1944 in Europe.. get your shit straight. The ONLY reason they did is to protect Europe from communist invasion.. the lesser of evil. Soviets had Germany by the balls by D-day. The war did not start in 1944 .. but in 1939..
My vodka drinking ADD Russian friend. I will make it simple for you!
References Google "THE Israeli Air Force" or "Air wars in Iraq". There you will find a long list of ALL the best Russian aircraft shot down in FIVE wars.
"PS: its red,blue and white"
Americans understand perfection or details is a bit tough for Russians....but you're on the right track.
It will be long time before America will learn how to bread intelligence on its own. For now, it will resort to traditional import of intelligence from other places..
My cow roping American friend, Iraq never have had or will have ?best? Russian equipment.. simply because they have had sanctions or because they had no money to pay for it.. Unlike Lybia in 1980?s when it bought brand new equipment from the United States despite international boycott.. So having said that I would suggest you resort to your usual Friday night activities like cow tipping and leave this forum immediately
It will be long time before America will learn how to bread intelligence on its own. For now, it will resort to traditional import of intelligence from other places..
My cow roping American friend, Iraq never have had or will have ?best? Russian equipment.. simply because they have had sanctions or because they had no money to pay for it.. Unlike Lybia in 1980?s when it bought brand new equipment from the United States despite international boycott.. So having said that I would suggest you resort to your usual Friday night activities like cow tipping and leave this forum immediately
" It will be long time before America will learn how to bread intelligence on its own"
My dear Russian friend.. whatever you have to tell yourself to get through the evening is fine by me. Just remember the computer, OS, and $ money you are trying to make via your sig (link in English) origanated from bread American intelligence.
What will be a long time is when Americans can drive those truly fine Russian made mechanical wonders you call cars. After driving in one I can truly understand Russian intelligance.
Summer of 1944 in Europe.. get your shit straight. The ONLY reason they did is to protect Europe from communist invasion.. the lesser of evil. Soviets had Germany by the balls by D-day. The war did not start in 1944 .. but in 1939..
Actually, you might want to check your facts. Like the fact that Stalin and the Soviets were supplying Hitler until middle of 1941. If Germany didn't decide to lose their mind and attack the Soviets...they would have been sitting out this war. The invasion of the Soviet union happened in June 1941.
Also, just because D-Day happened in 1944 that the Allies didn't deal crippling blows to the Germany...specifically destroying the infrastructure to completely stop the German war machine.
As I said, both fronts were needed and both sides should be equally praised, etc, for stopping Germany. You might want to read up on the topic though just to refresh your memory.
Actually, you might want to check your facts. Like the fact that Stalin and the Soviets were supplying Hitler until middle of 1941. If Germany didn't decide to lose their mind and attack the Soviets...they would have been sitting out this war. The invasion of the Soviet union happened in June 1941.
Also, just because D-Day happened in 1944 that the Allies didn't deal crippling blows to the Germany...specifically destroying the infrastructure to completely stop the German war machine.
As I said, both fronts were needed and both sides should be equally praised, etc, for stopping Germany. You might want to read up on the topic though just to refresh your memory.
Wrong, Soviets were already heavily and steadily scaling back what they were supplying the Germans and had their own plans for launching a war against Germany. Hitler knew that Germany had no chance fighting the Soviets on German soil, but in the vast expanses of Russia and across rough terrain the German military had a significant advantage and had a chance of taking them quickly. Germany had abandoned its plans to invade Britain due to American support propping it up, even though they were essentially bankrupt. If you're interested in history this is an interesting piece to read about what was running through his head throughout.
And personally I don't think the Soviets deserve much credit for liberating Europe. As much as I despise what the modern US has become at least the Americans essentially did liberate the countries they occupied. It is simply a shame that they didn't follow General Patton's advice and immediately attack the Soviet Union. The result of this inaction, and in fact their alliance with the Soviet Union was the Cold War, allowing nuclear weapons to fall into the USSR's hands, 10's of Millions killed under Stalin in concentration camps and purges, the legacy of struggling eastern European states to this day and a very narrow escape from nuclear war. If the Soviet Union had launched a nuclear war people may of thought very differently about what the US did throughout and immediately after WWII. It is by luck that it did not result, and we don't owe the murderer Stalin any thanks.
The bottom line is this. There is not a military on the earth that can begin to compare with the US military, for many different reasons. The US military can project its forces anywhere in the world, and has foward positioned forces and supplies all around the world for this very purpose. No other country on the earth can project its military anywhere in the world and certainly no country on the earth has the ability to launch a land, or air invasion against the US. A few countries could hit us with ICBM's but I doubt that any care to committ suicide.
yet it can't even secure a pile of sand in the middle of nowhere
Wrong, Soviets were already heavily and steadily scaling back what they were supplying the Germans and had their own plans for launching a war against Germany. Hitler knew that Germany had no chance fighting the Soviets on German soil, but in the vast expanses of Russia and across rough terrain the German military had a significant advantage and had a chance of taking them quickly. Germany had abandoned its plans to invade Britain due to American support propping it up, even though they were essentially bankrupt. If you're interested in history this is an interesting piece to read about what was running through his head throughout.
Interesting point, but I was pointing out that the Soviets weren't involved at the start of the war like RS suggested in 1939. The Soviets were in an uneasy alliance with Germany no doubt...they really couldn't have waged an effective war. Depression, antiquated weapons, and a military that was more or less unorganized, a lot of the experienced military leaders were killed by Stalin...so...they may have thought to attack Germany eventually, but I'd take a guess that it was wayyy down the line.
The first assault basically devasting for the soviets, also, the Allies started to supply the Soviet with military aid, kinda slow at the start, but then substantial support...so yeah, the Soviets wouldn't have been hammering away at the Germans without the allies helping.
Thanks for the link, I'll give this a read over later today
And personally I don't think the Soviets deserve much credit for liberating Europe. As much as I despise what the modern US has become at least the Americans essentially did liberate the countries they occupied. It is simply a shame that they didn't follow General Patton's advice and immediately attack the Soviet Union. The result of this inaction, and in fact their alliance with the Soviet Union was the Cold War, allowing nuclear weapons to fall into the USSR's hands, 10's of Millions killed under Stalin in concentration camps and purges, the legacy of struggling eastern European states to this day and a very narrow escape from nuclear war. If the Soviet Union had launched a nuclear war people may of thought very differently about what the US did throughout and immediately after WWII. It is by luck that it did not result, and we don't owe the murderer Stalin any thanks.
The credit I want to give to the Soviets is not their leaders, but the soldiers and civilians deserve credit for the huge losses they sustained, millions dead, and in that regard they should get credit for the second front.
Stalin on the other hand was a piece of shit, he's probably worst than Hitler, and yeah I've read Patton's take on it and you make some good points regarding the cold war. If Patton was listened to and MacArthur later during the Korean War, it would certainly be a different global picture right now.
I do not know what WMS is an acronym for but yes they had chemical weapons and they used them, 500 of the old munitions filled with chemicals have been found here and their since the invasion.
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I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !
But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....
If China, Russia and N. Korea get together to form the "communist front", as has been predicted by more than a few top defense consultants and was predicted by the CIA four years ago, the world's in deep shit.
The only thing that keeps the US, Europe and the rest of the "civilized" world from being the fierce, un-restrained warriors we used to be and need to be to win this upcoming war is mass media. All three of those countries have media and Internet completely controlled by the government. We don't.
Propaganda controls the will of the people, the most committed wins. How committed is the average American to anything? As patriotic as I am, with the tattoos, scars and history to prove it, it's heartbreaking to look around and see a society of traitors, morons and cowards being protected by the "best military in the world".
US has indeed the best army in the world and as you can see, they use it intensively to pacificate other areas of the world. Russia was defeated in the cold war and lost at least one decade technologically speaking. Now with the oil price increase their economy will increase faster.
On the other hand, Germany was divided in 1945 and until 1989 it was a conquered country. They had all those plane factories - where are they now? Junkers were making sewing machines while Rolls Royce were making airplane engines. Only after 1990 the Germans could start to rebuild their military. But they has to solve the problem of eastern Germany.
Today's Russia is a different country from the one from 1987 - they are capitalist to the core. Everything is sold and everything is bought - for the right price. They are rising while US is falling. EU has it's own internal problems - they try to expand and to become one big fucken state. However this takes time and resources, and some nations (like France - lazy people) still believe that they can live a nice life without doinga anything. In the meantime China is the only true power that is rising.
US is falling to pieces - when I see what is happening I can't herlp but to think at the roman empire and how it fell. The days of US supremacy are numbered and we will get to a multipolar world where the leading forces will be US, China, EU, Russia.
Moving back to middle east - Israel will blow away the ass of the muslim countries, they are just too advanced. However they will consume tons of resources into war - resources that they can put in the economy. Same thing is happening to US - instead of spending billions of USD in research and development they spend them in a fucken war in Irak. I do not have the figures but maybe the oil US gets from there values more than the expenses.
Here's some facts - give or take a few 1000 either way...
THE WORLD'S TEN LARGEST ARMIES
1. China - 1,700,000
2. India - 1,200,000
3. North Korea - 900,000
4. South Korea - 560,000
5. Pakistan - 520,000
6. United States - 475,000
7. Iraq - 360,000 - Pre-2003, of course.
8. Myanmar - 325,000
9. Russia - 320,000
10. Iran - 320,000
THE WORLD'S LARGEST AIR FORCES - BY NUMBER OF COMBAT AIRCRAFT
1. Russia - 3,996
2. China - 3,520
3. United States - 2,598
4. India - 774
5. Taiwan - 598
6. North Korea - 593
7. Egypt - 583
8. France - 531
9. Ukraine - 521
10. South Korea - 488
THE WORLD'S LARGEST NAVIES - BY PERSONNEL
1. United States - 369,800
2. China - 230,000
3. Russia - 171,500
4. Taiwan - 68,000
5. France - 62,600
6. South Korea - 60,000
7. India - 53,000
8. Turkey - 51,000
9. Indonesia - 47,000
10. North Korea - 46,000
Never noticed Israel among the top ten...
that's very impressive stats . too bad we are way over the stone age , and soldiers count means absolutly nothing .
best example is iraq with their #7 rank of army size , and they got their asses whiped by U.S in less than a week .
If you think that 300,000 persian peasants that were given green uniform and a ww1 rifle can give any match to just one division with the top technology of arm - you're wrong .
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