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07-10-2006, 01:08 AM

No you do not know any place I could make bank at. The correct way to put it would be you know several places where you THINK I could do well, because untill it happens thats all it is, a guess. You do not know anything, its only an assumption.

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no kidding - and not just TGP - i know of 3-4 marketing venues that she'd make bank on with her pics and movie data bank.

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07-10-2006, 01:12 AM

oh boy, now I have a chip on my shoulder.... no I dont, I just do not like you or need any of your assumptions or what you know as being fact.

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wow - I do really feel sorry for you. You sure have a huge chip on your shoulder.

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07-10-2006, 01:13 AM

Originally posted by venus

No you do not know any place I could make bank at. The correct way to put it would be you know several places where you THINK I could do well, because untill it happens thats all it is, a guess. You do not know anything, its only an assumption.

more like a VERY educated guess from experience.

I have got my hands on some muscle girl content in the past (i've been in the game 8 years - not that it means anything but I have tried a thing or two)- and made GREAT money with it. Problem was I wasn't able to secure much of it. it's HARD to get, but that I did get my hands on was way more profitable than the cute 18 year old standard stuff out there. - WAY more. HUGLY more.

that's what I'm making my ASSUMPTIONS on.

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07-10-2006, 01:17 AM

I am more then happy to let those who do have this type of stuff on TGP's to make what money they can from it without my trying to compete with them, If they make 1000 signups from it, then maybe they will be happy and stay away from th eplaces I do go.

The fastest way to lose money is by trying to saturate a place or places with same or similar content, I like to stay in places where its not saturatred and where I can get targeted traffic.

Originally posted by MrPheer

indeed. and there is so little of the bodybuilding stuff on the tgp's that she could make a killing there... but she 'doesnt do' tgp

hey I dont do them either, but I dont have a niche market by the balls like she does

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07-10-2006, 01:23 AM

Originally posted by venus

I am more then happy to let those who do have this type of stuff on TGP's to make what money they can from it without my trying to compete with them, If they make 1000 signups from it, then maybe they will be happy and stay away from th eplaces I do go.

The fastest way to lose money is by trying to saturate a place or places with same or similar content, I like to stay in places where its not saturatred and where I can get targeted traffic.

exactly.

it's WAY smarter to get 4,000 hits a day and 80 sales than 4 million hits a day and 145 sales/day.

i mean - the extra bandwidth alone would cost probally $3000 a month more. who the HELL would want to pay that? not to mention being able to tell people you convert 1 in 20 instead of 1 in 2000.

that's MEANS something!!!!!!!!!!! it's all about conversions. lets not talk about this bottom line thing - that's for people that don't know what they are doing and oversaturate a marketplace like bangbros.

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07-10-2006, 01:26 AM

Originally posted by venus

The fastest way to lose money is by trying to saturate a place or places with same or similar content, I like to stay in places where its not saturatred and where I can get targeted traffic.

Have you listened to yourself?

The tgp's are NOT saturated with your type of content. Thats what Sleazy is trying to tell you.

And forget trying to be nice and hoping other people dont move into your traffic areas, because if someone else finds it you can be damn sure they are going to jump all over it if they think they have a remote chance of getting a signup.
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07-10-2006, 01:28 AM

Originally posted by MrPheer

Have you listened to yourself?

The tgp's are NOT saturated with your type of content. Thats what Sleazy is trying to tell you.

And forget trying to be nice and hoping other people dont move into your traffic areas, because if someone else finds it you can be damn sure they are going to jump all over it if they think they have a remote chance of getting a signup.

dude - you can't hit her with a hammer over the head. she's tougher than you - or me - she'll just take the hammer off us and beat the crap out of us.

smooch venus.

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07-10-2006, 01:34 AM

congrats, ive heard of the muscle niche converting like mad

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07-10-2006, 01:35 AM

Originally posted by Kimo

congrats, ive heard of the muscle niche converting like mad

ever piece of content with muscle girls i ever got my hands on I made - compared to regular cute girl content - probally 3-4X the revenue on.

problem is it's VERY hard to find

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07-10-2006, 08:11 AM

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07-10-2006, 08:13 AM

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07-10-2006, 10:15 AM

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07-10-2006, 10:26 AM

Congrats on the sales, you shoot nice stuff. Sleazy does know his stuff, he and I are not friends or even know each other but I respect what he does and his success. Im always open to thoughts and opinions to people that are successful, regardless if its my niche or not. One of things I enjoy doing is taking people who advance in different fields to lunch. You can learn so much for the cost of a meal.
I always thought tgp traffic was crap but when we started doing galleries for herfirstfatgirl they have done really well, I think original rises above the noise.

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07-10-2006, 10:58 AM

Originally posted by SleazyDream

as expected you assume a lot

then again she is the one exploring the niche and not you with you...so I guess she does know more than you

If you don't put things in practise they are worth jack shit...
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07-10-2006, 11:09 AM

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don't set your standard in online adult to the trolls on gfy - use something like ambush interview (94 people so far and a good group to set yourself against) and the peers you got included with on there as a group to set yourself against. it might help you to raise you bar

I guess FL crew did took Ramo's ambush in consideration when hiring him, shame it lasted less than a month. He sure is a major player tho...at least at tricking people

You need to accept that your ambush's while featuring lots of respected people are far from being "the benchmark"
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07-10-2006, 11:10 AM

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07-10-2006, 11:35 AM

yes I have listened to myself but you obviously did not. Re-read what I said, I did not say it WAS saturated, I said I did not want to saturate it for the people doing good at it. If there was any.

It all comes down to this, its very simple, I run my site the way I want, period...if someone does not like it oh well, It has worked for me for the last 9years and I am very happy. You nor anyone else is in any position to try to tell me when, where or how to advertise, its that simple. If you want to advertise in TGP's then join my affiliate program and do it, otherwise drop it. But since your not doing it, then obviously TGP's is not going to make you enough money or else you would be in there promoting it and making all this cash your claiming it will make.

BTW lots of people are trying to do what I do, they always have, they have ever since I added streaming video as a webcam back in 1997. I had more webmasters in my chat room seeing how I was doing it then I did actual customers at times, I am still here, most of them are not. In 10 years, I will still be here. Will you.

When it comes to running a business, if you try to be a follower, and do what others are doing, you will always be behind, you cannot duplicate someone unless you have their vision, you can try, you can try to do everything your hero is doing, but there is so much behind the scenes that you will never know about. The best thing anyone can do is stop being a follower and learn to be a leader, go do your own thing, ignore all the "know it alls", figure this shit out for yourself and do it how you want to do it, not how others want you to do it.

Originally posted by MrPheer

Have you listened to yourself?

The tgp's are NOT saturated with your type of content. Thats what Sleazy is trying to tell you.

And forget trying to be nice and hoping other people dont move into your traffic areas, because if someone else finds it you can be damn sure they are going to jump all over it if they think they have a remote chance of getting a signup.

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07-10-2006, 11:56 AM

Originally posted by venus

I am probably exploiting allot more then you or anyone here realizes. The biggest places I advertise is outside of where most of the people on GFY would go.
I still have a few really big affiliates who have not started to advertise the new content, they usually make really good money off certain new content, which this fits right in to their thing. These are not blogs, tgp's or the other stuff people think is standard here on GFY.

Awsome I love seeing fresh new content instead of the same old bs. I think surfers appreciate that too.

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07-10-2006, 11:56 AM

Gotta love it when you ignore FREE advise on how to make more money to appear successful...
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07-10-2006, 08:43 PM

Originally posted by Rui

I guess FL crew did took Ramo's ambush in consideration when hiring him, shame it lasted less than a month. He sure is a major player tho...at least at tricking people

You need to accept that your ambush's while featuring lots of respected people are far from being "the benchmark"

i never said EVERYONE that has been ambushed was a standard to look up to - but as a whole the people that have been ambushed is a MUCH higher standard than the general population of GFY.

sad how stupid people like you are - see you a prime example of the general population of gfy - no brain.

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07-10-2006, 08:45 PM

She looks good. I would like to know how you promoted her.

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07-10-2006, 08:50 PM

Originally posted by venus

yes I have listened to myself but you obviously did not. Re-read what I said, I did not say it WAS saturated, I said I did not want to saturate it for the people doing good at it. If there was any.

It all comes down to this, its very simple, I run my site the way I want, period...if someone does not like it oh well, It has worked for me for the last 9years and I am very happy. You nor anyone else is in any position to try to tell me when, where or how to advertise, its that simple. If you want to advertise in TGP's then join my affiliate program and do it, otherwise drop it. But since your not doing it, then obviously TGP's is not going to make you enough money or else you would be in there promoting it and making all this cash your claiming it will make.

BTW lots of people are trying to do what I do, they always have, they have ever since I added streaming video as a webcam back in 1997. I had more webmasters in my chat room seeing how I was doing it then I did actual customers at times, I am still here, most of them are not. In 10 years, I will still be here. Will you.

When it comes to running a business, if you try to be a follower, and do what others are doing, you will always be behind, you cannot duplicate someone unless you have their vision, you can try, you can try to do everything your hero is doing, but there is so much behind the scenes that you will never know about. The best thing anyone can do is stop being a follower and learn to be a leader, go do your own thing, ignore all the "know it alls", figure this shit out for yourself and do it how you want to do it, not how others want you to do it.

I feel sorry for the people who spend their life around you if you act like you speak in this thread.

i honestly think you're more arrogent in your responses than most anyone I've ever spoken with on here. It;s really sad how bad your ego gets and how horrible you sound as a human being. It's digusting - really it is. I'm not trying to put you down - i'm hooing you have a shread of self enlightenment on that to actually see just how fucked up you sound. I doubt it though but one can always hope.

sad how a little bit of success can make a person turn into someone like that.

some people blossem with success, some - well - act like you have in this thread and others like it.

a little bit of advise to live by - anyone that THINKS they are better or smarter or more worthy than someone else - than anyone else - ISN'T.

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07-10-2006, 08:58 PM

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07-10-2006, 09:01 PM

wow

its not often you see sleazy offering help - sure hes the resident ball buster but god damn venus, he was offering you some help, insight, knowledge

put aside your personal feelings and do the right thing biz wise. contact him off the board - im sure you wont regret it.

and no im not friends or do biz with sleazy either.

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07-10-2006, 09:06 PM

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07-10-2006, 09:07 PM

Originally posted by SleazyDream

i honestly think you're more arrogent in your responses than most anyone I've ever spoken with on here..

I'll have to agree with you on that one. I've witnessed it several times myself, Even in threads where she is asking for help.
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07-10-2006, 09:13 PM

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07-10-2006, 09:21 PM

sick shit, imo. but congrats on the $$$
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07-10-2006, 10:11 PM

hey venus - i heard a rhumor your rev share isn't really rev share but PPS - as you dont' pay recurring. least that's the rhumor.

is that "what's behind the scenes that no one knows about?"

is that "The best thing anyone can do is stop being a follower and learn to be a leader, go do your own thing, ignore all the "know it alls", figure this shit out for yourself and do it how you want to do it, not how others want you to do it.

is that why you don't use third party billing companies? cause they won't allow people to cheat their affiliates telling them it's revshare when it's really PPS.

PLEASE discuss

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07-10-2006, 10:16 PM

Originally posted by SleazyDream

hey venus - i heard a rhumor your rev share isn't really rev share but PPS - as you dont' pay recurring. least that's the rhumor.

is that "what's behind the scenes that no one knows about?"

is that "The best thing anyone can do is stop being a follower and learn to be a leader, go do your own thing, ignore all the "know it alls", figure this shit out for yourself and do it how you want to do it, not how others want you to do it.

is that why you don't use third party billing companies? cause they won't allow people to cheat their affiliates telling them it's revshare when it's really PPS.

PLEASE discuss

PLEASE

I wana be a leader like you

Sleazy can rub his majic ball and find out the dirt on anyone.
How do you think he comes up with all those Ambush questions?

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07-10-2006, 10:29 PM

Originally posted by SleazyDream

hey venus - i heard a rhumor your rev share isn't really rev share but PPS - as you dont' pay recurring. least that's the rhumor.

is that "what's behind the scenes that no one knows about?"

is that "The best thing anyone can do is stop being a follower and learn to be a leader, go do your own thing, ignore all the "know it alls", figure this shit out for yourself and do it how you want to do it, not how others want you to do it.

is that why you don't use third party billing companies? cause they won't allow people to cheat their affiliates telling them it's revshare when it's really PPS.

PLEASE discuss

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07-10-2006, 10:31 PM

Originally posted by BV

Sleazy can rub his majic ball and find out the dirt on anyone.
How do you think he comes up with all those Ambush questions?

i have awesome friends.

mind you - 5 more ambushes and then they all take revenge on me LOL

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07-10-2006, 11:26 PM

damn, i was hoping venus would come back today.

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07-11-2006, 01:31 AM

How much steroids does it take for your internal organs to grow? What do you do when you start developing helath problems after steroid use?

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07-11-2006, 01:32 AM

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How much steroids does it take for your internal organs to grow? What do you do when you start developing helath problems after steroid use?

Are you starting question requests for a future Ambush interview?

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07-11-2006, 01:42 AM

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25 yr old girls dressed in mini skirts, holding teddy bears, out of shape and advertised as "just turned 18" is not the only thing that sells on the net.

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07-11-2006, 09:40 PM

Originally posted by SleazyDream

when training do you compair yourself to the people who sign up to the gym in jan and stop going in feb or to the ones that go year in and year out.

you're a smart mid sized company owner venus - compare yourself to the same and NOT the trolls here. they exist for us to LAUGH at

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07-11-2006, 09:41 PM

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07-11-2006, 11:09 PM

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Are you starting question requests for a future Ambush interview?

i already did venus

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07-12-2006, 12:12 AM

funny how venus disappeared LOL

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07-12-2006, 10:57 PM

still nothing. odd?

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07-12-2006, 11:24 PM

Disappeared?
I have been at the same place for the last 9 years. If you want something I am easy to find, If you don't, then do not bother me with your BS.

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funny how venus disappeared LOL

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07-12-2006, 11:26 PM

A very old fashioned technique which I have been building since I started my site.
thats about the best hint I can give you

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She looks good. I would like to know how you promoted her.

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07-12-2006, 11:33 PM

what do I need help on?

Originally posted by jonesy

wow

its not often you see sleazy offering help - sure hes the resident ball buster but god damn venus, he was offering you some help, insight, knowledge

put aside your personal feelings and do the right thing biz wise. contact him off the board - im sure you wont regret it.

and no im not friends or do biz with sleazy either.

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07-13-2006, 08:37 PM

Originally posted by venus

what do I need help on?

answering th questions you've been dodging. - woop s- I suppose that's how you differentiate yourself as a leader...

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07-13-2006, 09:53 PM

Looks like Venus is still bitter with me from a few years ago when she asked me for help with search engine promotion and I said no. And will I still be here in 10 years? fucking please!!

Guys just let her go do her thing, Sleazy is right she's too arrogant to need your help.
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