Vietnam V USA

They have skill and I think you underestimate the US Military based on quagmires that the Government has put them in. Of course you do have some dip shits in the bunch, but there are bad apples in any group.

I don't agree with everything they do, but it is their job to follow orders so I cant really blame them. If you want to point the fingers at any... do so at the Commander In Chief.

Oh yea... and 50 bitch!

Yet another one goes off the deep end..

USA LOST IN NAM!!!
no doubt about it!!
or do you think that doing what they did there is winning?
USA LOST TO IRAQ - actually they created them and gave some nice support to Saddam when he was helping USA to defeat Ayatollah Khomeini (do they teach that in USA schools?)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayatollah_Khomeini

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Iraq_War

"Iraq successfully gained some military and financial aid from the United States, the Soviet Union, and France, which together feared the prospects of the expansion of revolutionary Iran's influence in the region."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saddam_Hussein

The funny thing is that without our "crappy" military, you guys would be speaking German.

Again, at least the German language makes sense

We tried to invade Vietnam.

A massive war took place. We used all of our bombing capability and needed a mandatory draft to have satisfactory troop levels.

In the end, we had to run away.

That's called them kicking the shit out of us. Death count is irrelevant. We lost the war, to a bunch of poor peasants.


Americans aren't going to mobilize and go balls out over stupid wars of imperialism. That's why we're going to loose in Iraq. At some point the American people say, fuck this, we're not going to keep dying to see the super rich in our country get richer.

The Vietnamese and Iraqi's on the other hand, are fighting against colonial oppressors. They're fighting for their country to be free. Of course they'll fight to the last man. Just like we'd do if someone where invading us.

The US can kick ass when we have to. WWII, we whipped the shit out of the japs, because they actually threatened us. We could probably kick the shit of of China if they threatened us in the same way. But we'll never win a major war of imperialism. Imperialism isn't practical in modern society. Not when we can see the tyranny being delivered in our name every day on TV. Ok well, maybe not on US TV, but on satellite, and the internet.

It was easy for the British to be a colonial power, because the people couldn't see the attrocracies first hand.

And? If that was what I learned... so be it.

I disagree with you on smoking... but agree with you here.

i don't get the joy watching dead solgiers. But i am sorry for all this shit.