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  • $5 submissions
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    • Nov 2003
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    Oh SNAP! US House of Representatives OKs credit card ban on betting

    Let's just hope the Senate thinks otherwise. Pretty smoothly written language too. If approved, this might be a lethal (legally speaking) approach to some smaller online casinos.
  • Doctor Dre
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    • Jan 2001
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    #2
    Actually what will probably happen is people will load their credit card in a 3rd party that will pay the casino... there will be some workarround all over the net.
    Originally posted by rayadp05
    I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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    • RRRED
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      • Jan 2001
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      #3
      Funny how things work out..... lol

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      • faegan
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        #4
        From what I have heard, the Senate is already saying they will veto the bill when it gets to them.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Doctor Dre
          Actually what will probably happen is people will load their credit card in a 3rd party that will pay the casino... there will be some workarround all over the net.
          The language is wide enough to cover netteller and other 3rd party payment systems.

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          • Snake Doctor
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            • Mar 2001
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            #6
            Originally posted by faegan
            From what I have heard, the Senate is already saying they will veto the bill when it gets to them.
            Wow I didn't know the Senate had veto power.

            Did we change constitutions over the holiday weekend when I was away?

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            • Snake Doctor
              I'm Lenny2 Bitch
              • Mar 2001
              • 13449

              #7
              Originally posted by $5 submissions
              The language is wide enough to cover netteller and other 3rd party payment systems.
              Damn that sucks.

              What irks me is that everytime they run something on the news about "illegal internet gambling" they always show party poker, and poker isn't gambling.

              The gaming industry will survive though. There's always electronic checks, wire transfers, and prepaid cards.
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              • stickyfingerz
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                • Oct 2005
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                #8
                Originally posted by Lenny2
                Damn that sucks.

                What irks me is that everytime they run something on the news about "illegal internet gambling" they always show party poker, and poker isn't gambling.

                The gaming industry will survive though. There's always electronic checks, wire transfers, and prepaid cards.
                How is putting up a wager that you could lose or win money on not gambling again?

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                • Kenko
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                  • Jul 2002
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                  #9
                  land of the free, huh?

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                  • Doctor Dre
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                    • Jan 2001
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Lenny2
                    Damn that sucks.

                    What irks me is that everytime they run something on the news about "illegal internet gambling" they always show party poker, and poker isn't gambling.

                    The gaming industry will survive though. There's always electronic checks, wire transfers, and prepaid cards.
                    Poker is gambling dude ... wtf you're talking about. There is a lot of chance involved in the game.
                    Originally posted by rayadp05
                    I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                    • faegan
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                      • Apr 2006
                      • 74

                      #11
                      Veto and reject mean exactly the same thing, and the senate has the power to reject it. There is that easier for you to understand? There was no need to attack my wording........

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Lenny2
                        What irks me is that everytime they run something on the news about "illegal internet gambling" they always show party poker, and poker isn't gambling.
                        Exactly. Poker is all about SKILL and Psychology not gambling. I mean... if you are good at psyching out the competition, you win with even the SHITTIEST hands.

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                        • tranza
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                          • Jun 2003
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                          #13
                          Next step is porn?
                          I'm just a newbie.

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                          • FuqALot
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                            #14
                            I read that there have been similar bills like this in the past, for example in 2002 and 2003. They never made it to the Senate, let alone pass the Senate. I really don't see it all happening before November this year. They have far more important things to vote on.

                            What is a bit weird though is that quite a few Demo's voted yes.. but even then, there will lots of companies that are going to complain and stuff. But I read that even if this bill passes, it probably won't do anything to online gambling.

                            And banning porn on the internet is even more far from happening.

                            They really need to stop coming up with those lame ass bills and do something more important. They are not going to pass or anything.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by tranza
                              Next step is porn?
                              That might be harder to do due to free speech issues. Then again there's all sorts of time/manner shenanigans they can pull.

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                              • Scott McD
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                                • Nov 2002
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by Kenko
                                land of the free, huh?
                                Or so they still believe...


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                                • FuqALot
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                                  #17
                                  "The land of the free" - but you are not able to decide what sites you visit and whether you're going to double your dough or find a regular job and pay taxes to fund lame ass bills.
                                  Last edited by FuqALot; 07-11-2006, 03:07 PM.

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                                  • faegan
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                                    • Apr 2006
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by $5 submissions
                                    Exactly. Poker is all about SKILL and Psychology not gambling. I mean... if you are good at psyching out the competition, you win with even the SHITTIEST hands.
                                    I know alot of professional poker players that would disagree wholeheartedly with that statement. People like Chris Ferguson, Annie Duke, and Howard Lederer for instance.....a good hand will always beat a bluff.

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                                    • MaddCaz
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                                      #19
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                                      • Juilan
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                                        • Feb 2004
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by MaddCaz
                                        I dont get it...
                                        They're trying to outlaw credit card use as the method of online gambling payments. The thinking being it's impossible to regulate gambling on the interwebs.
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                                        • Matt 26z
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                                          • Apr 2002
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                                          #21
                                          Yet another case of our elected representatives going against our wishes. The current government lineup is out of control.

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                                          • Love Sex
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                                            • Nov 2004
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                                            #22
                                            credit cards havent been able to play online casinos or poker sites for like 2-3 years now

                                            whats the difference

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                                            • Paul Waters
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                                              • Mar 2003
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by faegan
                                              I know alot of professional poker players that would disagree wholeheartedly with that statement. People like Chris Ferguson, Annie Duke, and Howard Lederer for instance.....a good hand will always beat a bluff.
                                              The trick is to make the two hand think you are bluffing when you are not.


                                              Paul

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                                                • SuckOnThis
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by stickyfingerzdotnet
                                                  How is putting up a wager that you could lose or win money on not gambling again?

                                                  I don't know. Why don't you ask some of the politicians that you suck their dicks for how state lotteries that they endorse arent gambling.

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                                                  • Tdog
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Doctor Dre
                                                    Actually what will probably happen is people will load their credit card in a 3rd party that will pay the casino... there will be some workarround all over the net.
                                                    sites like e-gold.com and e-bullion.com will flurish. These sites dont take direct credit cards but use external exchangers.

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                                                    • Dirty Dane
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Tdog
                                                      sites like e-gold.com and e-bullion.com will flurish. These sites dont take direct credit cards but use external exchangers.
                                                      Yes the flow will always be there. Its just a matter of how fast.

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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Dirty Dane
                                                        Yes the flow will always be there. Its just a matter of how fast.
                                                        Where there's money to be made there will be a way. That's just how economics works.

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                                                        • Pornwolf
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                                                          • Jan 2002
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                                                          #29
                                                          I've been wondering how Poker has lasted so long. It IS gambling.
                                                          I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...

                                                          Webair, bitches.

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                                                          • minusonebit
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Tdog
                                                            sites like e-gold.com and e-bullion.com will flurish. These sites dont take direct credit cards but use external exchangers.
                                                            Yes, they will. And for those who dont yet have an eGold account, go to the link below and get one. At least you'll be using money thats backed by something other than the government's promise to pay.

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                                                            And there will always be Western Union. They cant stop internet gambling, they are just mad that they cant tax it like they can Vegas.

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                                                            • TheJimmy
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                                                              • Jan 2001
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by $5 submissions
                                                              Exactly. Poker is all about SKILL and Psychology not gambling. I mean... if you are good at psyching out the competition, you win with even the SHITTIEST hands.
                                                              I believe that's why it's legal in California to run Poker clubs...considered a game of skill not chance...

                                                              At least that's what a friend that knows a bit about that industry told me...

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                                                              • Matt_WildCash
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                                                                #32
                                                                Offline casino's must be bribing the hell out of COngress

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                                                                • Kimo
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  you know it
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Matt_WildCash
                                                                    Offline casino's must be bribing the hell out of COngress
                                                                    It's called lobbying Anyway, they don't have anything to fear... in fact, with the BRAND recognition and experience they have I would think they'd welcome online gambling.

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